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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:20:38 PM 
@ guido...the rip 'em up tear 'em down type of tunes? What about Locked In?? Lol. I HATE that track and the entire 1986 vibe JP gave us...ha ha..no need to explain....I love the crappy tune "Come And Get It" off the very stale R.I.D. Lp lol. Its all good...


I love Metal Gods... sure Breaking The Law,Living After Midnight I'm tired of hearing but for spme reason I never got sick of Metal Gods... the chains draging sounds at the end... Similar sounds in the middle of March Of The Damned gives me goosebumps its so "Priest".

Angel Of Retribution I rank # 7th best Judas Priest lp with six ahead of it: Sad Wings,British Steel,SFV,ROS,Painkiller and DOTF.

It's even better than HBFL,Stained Class & Sin After Sin which many rank in the top 5 so I too love A.O.R....

I would go as far as saying that because of Judas Priest's top level of popularity alone that,Redeemer Of Souls is "the most underrated heavy metal album of all time". I truly believe this,I've studied hundreads of heavy metal albums as many are aware of and I can safely say with confidence that yes,our Judas Priest's 2014 Lp HAS to be it.

The most "overrated" heavy metal album of all time? In my opinion, based on popularity ... it HAS to be Helloween 1987's lp "Keeper Of The Seven Keys pt.1".... & throw in 1988's "Keeper Of The Seven Keys pt.2". These 2 albums are hailed as ultra MASTERPIECES in the world of heavy metal/power metal. It just baffles my brain.


Edited at: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:24:47 PM
[guidogodoy] Sunday, November 06, 2016 5:36:28 PM 
Heh, remember I don't like March of the Damned either, do ya?! LOL! Good memory. Not a huge fan of Metal Gods either. Nah, I MUCH prefer the "rip 'em up and tear 'em down" sorts of tunes. Doesn't alwasy have to be pure screaming vocals / raging guitars / drums / bass either. "Call for the Priest, I'm dyyyyyyyying........!" HAAA! "Dreamer Deceiver!" Cuts into "Deceiver" doesn't hurt is a masterpiece! Those old bluesy jams are what I would LOVE to hear again. A one-off and some well within Rob's current range. Still, a song like "Ram 'em Down" doesn't hurt either or even an album I have championed in Nostra! Like HB, I don't know why some dissed that album so much. I won't rehash my arguments again but I would put "Persecution" against "Painkiller" any day. Sure, went a bit long but, with Priest, I always want too much than too little.

Production on RoS? Ummmm....anyone hear of an equalizer? Know how to use a computer? Hell, if they can take Jar Jar Binks out of Star Wars, they certainly can adjust the levels according to their liking. Yes, I wish that there was a dedicated pro mixer in on all the Glenn mixed albums but, again, more is better than less. Sure, someone should have told them to cull out some of the Nostra songs but then again? More is better and I can always create my old "mix tape" as all the old folks know we said back in the day. Clean it and remix anyway I want.

AOR? I own TOO much shit to diss that album in the least. I loved it. Sure, like most, not every song (regulars know my favs) but wouldn't trade it for the world. Keep on going, Metal Gods!

ps. we need a "random OPINION thread" as this is all it is....pure opinion.
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Edited at: Sunday, November 06, 2016 5:41:10 PM
[Head banger] Sunday, November 06, 2016 3:43:01 PM 
 See, its all subjective.  somehow I love AOR, most people put it sort of middle of the road.  
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, November 06, 2016 2:17:12 PM 
@guido... I hear ya bro. I rate Redeemer Of Souls #4th best Judas Priest album of all time with Sad Wings,British Steel,SFV ahead of it. I dont know why so many fans dismiss it because of production... to me the production could of been better but its not a bad production,it's more raw than bad.


From these last 2 years I've just noticed there are more negative reviews/opinions about the album than there are positive. Just an observation that puzzles me. The negative feedback might as well be saying that the album's quality is equivalent to the Ram It Down album. I think ROS is lightyears better than R.I.D. ?? You see what Im sayin... Idk ...

As for Halls Of Valhalla, lol man the fact that you hate this song is SHOCKING to me,it always has been lol. Its all good bro man,but even the massive negative reviews/opinions about the album,those pretty much ALL still liked H.O.V lol! I cant find one other negative opinion about H.O.V. either ... lol but it is what it is... To me Halls Of Valhalla is in the top 10 best JP songs of all time,I just absolutely love this song.

March Of The Damned is the other track you hate.... I wouldnt rate it better than Halls Of Valhalla,but I still like this track very much,reminds me of British Steel material like Metal Gods & The Rage... it doesn't sound like Ozzy to me,or remind me of the walking dead...I suppose if it did I wouldn't like it either lol.

But if you take away H.O.V & March Of The Damned... 11 tracks left,I dont like Metalizer...at all really,thats the only song I dont like off the album... take away Metalizer... 10 songs left of great Judas Priest material.

How can so many metal fans over look this album I'll never know,especially when EVERY metal fan in the world always tunes in with massive anticipation for a new Judas Priest track... It'll be an unsolved mystery.
Edited at: Sunday, November 06, 2016 2:29:53 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, November 05, 2016 9:27:02 PM 
First, I must say this is NOT a "random FACT" by any means. It is an opinion. Second? I had it in a browser opened as I only had time to peruse it when it was posted and, sorry to say, I missed the part which disclosed where it said quite clearly "this is not my opinion....something found on the net" (to paraphrase). Thought all that day..hmmmmm....J.D.? Have you gone loco? I thought you rated the album quite highly. Plus, I have never known you to write so much and, to be harshly honest, to not pay so much attn to spelling! LOL! (aside: HATE it when people use "80's" the way the author I cite does...it is NOT a possessive, it is simply plural...what, did the 80s own it?) Still, 80s? Author aged himself (gave away gender easily in the text). NOT a fan of the start of the band since inception. Cannot claim to have been in England in the 70s either but, still, SWoD is still one of MY personal favs of the day. "Halls of Valhalla" one of the best??! Sorry, again, OPINION! Certainly not fact. I even warned my brother that they would play that song as it bored me to no end. All in the eye of the beholder. "Dragonaught?" (as spelled on the LP, CD, DVD and special release I own?); "Down in Flames?" "Metalizer? "Crossfire?' "Battle Cry?" Talk about opinion vs. "Random Fact?" Some of MY favs! Saw that concert a few times and I must say that the Detroit show with HRMG / hubby / my bro in a PACKED venue after Chicago with the Sinful gals, Bev / Ron+ many more from the board in a PACKED hall was just the best! Seriously, in ALL my shows (yeah, I am a lifetime fan just as the author of the message quoted), THAT Detroit show (Chi as close second with Spa) followed by the Louder than Life show where Spa / crew +VAIL showed up (we froze) and many made the trip to Detroit again to a great packed audience at a different venue was another great show with wonderful friends! The FOX Theater, though? That was one that almost brought tears to my eyes. Saw Ozzy there in the early 80s on HIS goodbye tour! Riiight. Not an empty seat in the house and I have the vid from the fourth row to prove it. Posted online, in fact. SICK of people looking for a new Painkiller. Grow up. AoR? Hey. I got a few songs I liked off of it and a tour that was outstanding. Ticket sales did NOT waver a bit at the three venues I saw in ampitheaters I saw them back then on that tour. Smaller places in RoS but still packed with fans and the Priest rocked hard. Hell, I pull no punches. If I thought they sucked? I would say so. They fucking rocked and, again, have the vid to prove it. Any friend can PM me to get the URL. 

Long live the metal gods!

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[Head banger] Saturday, November 05, 2016 8:47:20 AM 
 I vote for an album and a tour.  if I can only have one, then I dunno.  I guess a full on tour.  KK is gone, not to return, take that out of your equation.  I dont know how the last US tour sold, the last set of canadian dates looked like crappy sales.

my dream tour would be to relive my first concert
Testament
Megadeth
Priest

and thats a bill that might sell.  they sold ok the tour with BLS, no idea why people like BLS, but it sold tix, and they need something to sell tix

how was the last us tour for sales?


 

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, November 04, 2016 11:03:33 PM 
Below is one of many reviews of the Redeemer Of Souls LP.

I'd guess approx. 90% of reviews for the album are very similar to this review below and most fans of the band could easily write this review of the album. A pretty harsh review like most are of the album.

Even though I rate the album #4 best JP record out of 17 albums,I've also been well aware that Im in a 10% group of Judas Priest fans that rate the album this high,as people that arent Priest freaks wouldn't make it through the whole album.

No matter WHAT I may think... The "FACT" is that the quality of Redeemer Of Souls' material along with it's poor production issues created by Glenn Tipton (although I believe the production isnt AS BAD as people are making it out to be) ... Redeemer Of Souls is a "failure".

This being said,I don't think they can top Redeemer Of Souls,if they do it wont be good enough even for the die hards. Should Judas Priest NOT record another record,and just give us another fairwell tour? Perhaps even a show with K.K. ...and then RETIRE from recording & touring?
I almost think they SHOULD record the last album and only show us the album cover and song titles and keep it in a vault,just keep it a secret and spare the poor reviews lol.


...guido? spa? Becks? Head Banger? acolyte55?


Edited at: Friday, November 04, 2016 11:34:17 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, November 04, 2016 10:44:42 PM 
This is one of 14 poor reviews of the Redeemer Of Souls LP from encyclopedia metallum site,this is not my opinion ...but check it out



The party's simply over. - 45%
Pratl1971, September 11th, 2014
Written based on this version: 2014, 2CD, Sony Music (Deluxe edition)Redeemer Of Souls

As with anything, age and the passage of time are often cruel and unforgiving masters to whom we are undeniably submissive. Sure, we can do everything to try and combat the inevitable, but eventually the laws of gravity and life give way and we have limits set for us.

Sometimes we have to have the good sense to know when to hear that last bell and follow its dreaded tolling into that gentle goodnight. After hearing teaser tracks from the latest Judas Priest effort, Redeemer of Souls, I'm caught between a barbed wire fence and nearly 35-years of heavy metal greatness (dismissing the one or two bumps in that long and storied road).

Okay, long and short, this latest Priest record is criminally missing one of its major components in terms of sound, and that is Mister Ken "K.K." Downing. That familiar tonal assault I'm so used to hearing on each Priest record since 1980 is just gone, vanished into the nether of a myriad of conjecture and quick dissociative blurbs.

As to why Downing decided to opt out of one of the greatest metal bands to ever walk the planet, I hear the rumors and see the aforementioned block quotes, but I can only surrender to my own personal feelings of something completely off and just not right. That little OCD moment aside, I sat here and more or less convinced myself that the utter disaster that was Nostradamus couldn't possibly be matched, and thankfully I was right.

This newest record isn't anything close to that double-disc insult, but it also isn't at the level of credibility of Angel of Retribution, harkening the return of Rob Halford to the fold after a lengthy foray into Trent Reznor-esque boredom and an eventual return to the very medium once sarcastically declared "dead."

Musically, Redeemer of Souls is a competent, even good album for your run of the mill NWOBHM band vying for a selected spot in this current resurgence of that primitive, yet fundamentally important sound.

There are standout tracks, such as "Valhalla" that really overpower me and get me feeling good about the Priest again, but I'd be remiss if I didn't say that there is so much studio magic on Halford's voice it should be a Honey Nut Cheerios commercial. The high register days of "The Sentinel" and "Dreamer Deceiver" are long over, I understand that, but the vocal performance here sports a very thin border between rudimentary and a simple going-through-motions.

Is it offensive? No, not by any means, but I will say that the little clean vocal crooning in "Sword of Damocles" is downright painful and should have been cut out completely from an otherwise decent track. These little indiscretions don't pile up too much, but they do tend to throw off the vibe and flow of the album. I suppose after 40-years going, Judas Priest no longer needs to worry about such things.

Sandwiched between spurts of goodness, tracks like "March of the Damned" read more like a mediocre bar band trying to fire up a corner saloon filled with drunken leftovers from the 80's hair metal scene. Vocally, lyrically, even musically it falls well short of being anything close to memorable. The soloing is about as lackluster as it gets, which is depressing considering the magic sweeping from at least one set those fingers for all of these years.

I'm not knocking Richie Faulkner or his ability to play his instrument; truth told, he is a very good guitarist, but if he was supposed to be some sort of cortisone injection into an aging Priest, that shot missed the target muscle. The closest we get to former glory is the opening riff in "Down in Flames," which recalls, quite vividly, "Heading Out to the Highway" with its chunky riff and thumping bass line that made me momentarily smile.

This track is one of the sandwich tracks I mentioned and resonates pretty well as something you might have heard from either Point of Entry or Painkiller. Even the vocals on this track are really as close to "nailing it" as Rob Halford will come, but I am anxious to hear some of the leaked live shows when they start trickling out there to see how this material stands up in the purest form possible.

Again, this album shows us an aged Judas Priest, and that little fact isn't lost on me. However, as a lifelong fan of the band I don't think it's unreasonable to assume (and hope) for a more spirited performance from these guys. When I hear this album all the way through for about the sixth or seventh time now, I am left wanting more. I want Downing and that familiar Tipton/Downing trade off that still makes Dave Murray and Adrian Smith so damn potent in the same age bracket.

I want a fire in the belly; the same fire that kept a dying Ronnie James Dio going strong and powerful for a lot longer than probable as he approached 70. My point is, despite the ever-declining lifespan of us all, there is still something to be said for giving it your all and just going for it with the proverbial metal on the floor and the open wind slapping you into violent submission.

Even the opening notes of "Cold Blooded" seem so lifeless and solicit no real emotional engagement, and that's the saddest part of this record for me (though the solo in this song is the best on the album.) There are definite moments of pinhole-lighted magic disseminated throughout the entire album, but overall Redeemer simply fails to thrill me like it should, but I keep myself satiated by telling myself, "At least it ain't that last pile of crap." We all have our little pick-me-ups.

I love Judas Priest. I love everything about the band: the history, the black leather-studded, whip-carrying, motorcycle-riding, unearthly-screaming Judas Priest that I grew up with all through the 80's into the present day. It pains me to my core to see one of my favorite bands simply lose a fire that has been burning for so long, and please don't sedate yourself with talk of them being older and still being a great band for its age.

Even worse, I've seen it bandied about that they are legends and should "get a pass" for being less than stellar now, and this is where I vehemently disagree.

Picture, if you will, an aging pugilist, whose better days of single-vision are long behind him. He knows nothing else but how to fight, and despite the brain damage and obvious grasping at straws to stay both relevant and competitive, he simply doesn't have the tools to keep up any longer. Yet he stays. He takes beating after beating, swelling and bleeding from every orifice on his head, and he simply won't quit. Why is this man so stubborn? Pride? Conviction? Stupidity? One too many blows to the head? Who can say?

All we see is this shell of former greatness that is well past his prime, and the last visage we'll have of him is a weary and stumbling artifact walking away, not to a Bill Conti composition, but to a quiet, pitying darkness that will slowly envelop him as he shrinks from sight into the rest of his broken existence. The bell has rung, and it's time to let it go gracefully while the last visuals are ones of amazement and triumph. It will not get any better from this point on, and we need to see that and accept it.


Edited at: Friday, November 04, 2016 11:17:46 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, July 15, 2016 10:31:57 PM 
The New England Patriots will win Super Bowl 51. I said it here first..... July 15th,2016
[Head banger] Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:28:18 AM 
apparently you can absorb alcohol faster. still a stupid trend, and easy to overdose with.
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:00:20 AM 
Now that is one retarded trend (and I don't even drink beer!). You got me beat, J.D.

I once saw a news segment about how some hip and happenin' kids are snorting chocolate powder as an alternative to snorting cocaine.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:42:00 PM 
....so I was talking to a co-worker today and we were laughing at trends currant kids of today take up....and I learned these kids(the dumb ones) are doing something called "butt chugging"?! Lmfao....apparently these idiots are sticking a bottle of booze in their ass and doing a hand stand to drain the alcohol straight in to catch a " buzz " lol.... I fuckin can't believe it..I just can't ha ha....fuckin A I've about heard it all lol

[guidogodoy] Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:07:36 PM 
HAAAAAA!!!!

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[666ozzypriest666] Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:12:33 PM 
it is my right to stand up and fight for the one I LOVE! NO ONE WILL DRIVE ME EVER APART OF MY LOVE! it is my right to defend all of the Priest ~ it's worth fighting for.
[666ozzypriest666] Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:12:30 PM 
I am just defending my love.
[666ozzypriest666] Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:45:11 PM 
I am not angry.
[spapad] Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:39:50 AM 
Oh, my darling new friend is angry. I just noticed, since I had to wake up from the boredom coma she put me in.

Not to worry! I'll be your friend anyway.
[666ozzypriest666] Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:15:17 PM 
Thank you for the tip - I prefer to suck on another part of his body.
[666ozzypriest666] Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:05:42 PM 
Ooohh yesss don't ya know? We are pervers!
[spapad] Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:01:47 PM 

There is no doubt their both mucus miners. Probably both can't wait to trade boogers and chew away Such classy types. 

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