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[i flick my boogers] Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:12:59 PM
Hats off to President Trump and all his accomplishments of the last four years and putting America first !
President Trump is legendary...
Edited at: Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:21:24 PM
[PRIEST_HAMMER] Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:07:38 PM
I just finished reading "Demonic" by Ann Coulter. Excellant book. Right up there with her other book that I enjoyed a lot, "Slander." In it, she talks about how the Left are the party of the mob. Not the organised crime Mob but the mob of the violent protesters. The Left is always wagging their fingers saying, "the Right are violent people inspiring violence towards the American people..." But if you really look at it from hindsight the Left are the ones who are always throwing punches. They're the ones always throwing rocks, bricks, bats, etc.
I'm not a person who likes to argue politics. I stay out of that avenue. If people were to ask me where I stand on issues I gladly tell them. Kind of like "Don't ask, don't tell." Lol. If there's one thing I learned from listening to Metal is that I have the freedom to speak my mind and no one needs to know what I think - but if I'm goaded into a battle of wits and words I stand my ground.
If you ever notice that the Left is always repeating themselves.
The Left never read Conservative books. They claim we are racists but yet they don't know a things about us because they don't read books. If they read Conservative books they would understand and respect the rationale behind our arguments. We read their books and watch their media and we find ignorance, malice, and fault with their reasoning.
Democrats are all members of the Ku Klux Klan. They formed the group. They're still private members of the group. The KKK originally was created to torment Republicans then they moved on to minorities. These days they torment everyone on the Right. I will never vote for a Democrat even if I agreed with him/her on an issue. The pain cuts too deep for me and I'm not a minority.
METAL WARRIORS DOMINATE! ! ! !
[Tyrant] Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:39:22 AM
Edited at: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:41:51 AM
[Tyrant] Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:38:02 AM
In Australia , politics has hit a new low, nobody has the balls to do anything, most of us id say, are just board to death !
Tyrant ..
Never turn your back, on the Ripper ! T.O.
[Budred] Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:59:36 AM
Whoa man, were not all douche-bags.
I'm with you man, I voted yes on that shit.
Ohioans- what a bunch of douchebags ! Voting down Issue 2 "collective Bargaining" How many people in the world accrue sick days, have taxes fund there retirement plan and don't have to make a profit to get paid ? My city is broke and the police chief retired and has a full year of sick days we have to pay him for WTF !!! THINK PEOPLE!!! Edited at: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:29:30 AM
[METALMANJP] Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:28:53 AM
Ohioans- what a bunch of douchebags ! Voting down Issue 2 "collective Bargaining" How many people in the world accrue sick days, have taxes fund there retirement plan and don't have to make a profit to get paid ? My city is broke and the police chief retired and has a full year of sick days we have to pay him for WTF !!! THINK PEOPLE!!! Edited at: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:29:30 AM
[metallo] Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:22:32 PM
What to say. Only one name: BERLUSCONI. What a pity !!!!! Poor Italy, but Italians once did it better, now do it worst. COME ON, WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Budred] Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:00:38 AM
No but I may look it up. I love that guy. They took him out of our paper over a year ago and I've kind of forgotten about him.
In my (personal) opinion I think this man makes alot of sense. I never considered him a Democrat or Republican because
he just speaks the truth. F/Glenn Beck, Billo the clown, or MSNBC or anyone else(media) taking a side one way or the other.
We're being destoyed by our government and our corporations period. Neither side is doing anything but causing division in
this country.(Rember: Divided We Fall!!!) There is an article out today talking about the gap between rich and poor is greater
than it's ever been. (REALLY!!!)(How could that be?) (Not because of corporations?) Charley Reese points out what's wrong
and provides good arguments as to why he's right. Pay attention to this man. Read some of his articles and you'll see what I mean.
Was that a rant? I haven't done that for awhile.
I'll stop now.[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by METALMANJP from Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:39:09 AM)
METALMANJP wrote:
Has anyone read the article "545 PEOPLE" by Charlie Reese. If you live in the US you should. It's time to clean house.
Edited at: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:03:06 AM
[METALMANJP] Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:39:09 AM
Has anyone read the article "545 PEOPLE" by Charlie Reese. If you live in the US you should. It's time to clean house.
[guitardude] Saturday, August 28, 2010 3:57:44 PM
If BP was one of the boycotting companies, you can breathe a sigh of relief. They would find a way to contaminate that beautiful country you have there. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:28:01 PM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
4 MORE U.S. COMPANIES JOIN BOYCOTT OF ALBERTA OIL SANDS FUEL.
[RIFFY] Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:57:48 PM
YUP ITS PRETTY MUCH STILL THE SAME HERE,,LOL
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:27:49 AM
OH ABSOLUTELY... BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES AND LIARS RUNNING THE SHOW... BUT THEY BOTH SEVERELY DAMAGED THE ENVIRONMENT...BUT UNTIL THE BASTARDS CAN RING OUT EVERY PENNY,
THEY'LL KEEP SCREWING THINGS UP...THE WAY OF THE HUMAN RACE IT SEEMS...GREED,GREED,
GREED. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, August 27, 2010 6:20:44 AM)
Head banger wrote:
wonder how many will boycott offshore drilling? in just 90 days created more polution than the oilsands have managed in 30 years.
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
4 MORE U.S. COMPANIES JOIN BOYCOTT OF ALBERTA OIL SANDS FUEL.
[Head banger] Friday, August 27, 2010 6:20:44 AM
wonder how many will boycott offshore drilling? in just 90 days created more polution than the oilsands have managed in 30 years. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:28:01 PM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
4 MORE U.S. COMPANIES JOIN BOYCOTT OF ALBERTA OIL SANDS FUEL.
[Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:28:01 PM
4 MORE U.S. COMPANIES JOIN BOYCOTT OF ALBERTA OIL SANDS FUEL.
[guitardude] Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:00:47 PM
Funny you mention Clinton in that manner, the man had the fastest zipper in the west!!
I understand the issue was much bigger, I just didn`t want to type all afternoon.
I can`t imagine what the economic impact has been after all these years with essentially civil war lurking around the corner. My curiosity has been peaked by all this and I must read more about it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:41:29 PM)
_strat_ wrote:
Ah well... Lets not try to make this into a flame war...
Now, the issue is much more complicated than that.
First of all, a bit of a correction: when we say "former Yugoslavian" we usualy (at least here, in former Yugoslavia) refer to the period before 1991, when the country was still whole. What was around in 1999 was called Yugoslavia, but actualy it was only a small remnant of it, comprising only two out of former six republics and less than half of the population of the original state. Thats why we refer to it as Serbia and Montenegro, or just Serbia.
Now to the conflict. Kosovo was not invaded, not in the usual meaning of the word - it was an autonomous province within Serbia, and the federal government in Belgrade had full jurisdiction over it. Federal military was always stationed there.
So much for terminology. As for the rest, yes, it did end quickly - at least the military part of it. The problem is that Kosovo is now a frozen conflict, that doesnt look like it will be properly resolved any time soon. And it certainly is creating new tensions between Russia and the West (since Russians and Serbs are traditional allies). Not to mention new hatred towards Albanians (which were always the least popular nationality in our former state; now even more so).
Now, as far as the intervention goes... Shit, I still say that a certain horny bastard from a certain house that as it happens is painted white... Should pay for it. Preferably with his head.
guitardude wrote:
Strat
Just in case you did drift over here, I read up on the Nato attacks. It was only after lenghty negotiations that were obviously doomed that Nato acted to stop the former Yugoslavian military from attacking Kosovo, they had a massive troop and equipment build up around Kosovo, action had to be taken. Now should it have came to that, no way! But unfortunately, the powers that be have these great arsenal`s at their disposal`s and feel the need to prove themselves. Surprisingly , even the French backed the Nato troops.
Though Russia`s stance could have very well started the cold war all over again. Luckily it ended quickly. And at least all the major world powers are still friends. Theorectically anyway.
[_strat_] Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:41:29 PM
Ah well... Lets not try to make this into a flame war...
Now, the issue is much more complicated than that.
First of all, a bit of a correction: when we say "former Yugoslavian" we usualy (at least here, in former Yugoslavia) refer to the period before 1991, when the country was still whole. What was around in 1999 was called Yugoslavia, but actualy it was only a small remnant of it, comprising only two out of former six republics and less than half of the population of the original state. Thats why we refer to it as Serbia and Montenegro, or just Serbia.
Now to the conflict. Kosovo was not invaded, not in the usual meaning of the word - it was an autonomous province within Serbia, and the federal government in Belgrade had full jurisdiction over it. Federal military was always stationed there.
So much for terminology. As for the rest, yes, it did end quickly - at least the military part of it. The problem is that Kosovo is now a frozen conflict, that doesnt look like it will be properly resolved any time soon. And it certainly is creating new tensions between Russia and the West (since Russians and Serbs are traditional allies). Not to mention new hatred towards Albanians (which were always the least popular nationality in our former state; now even more so).
Now, as far as the intervention goes... Shit, I still say that a certain horny bastard from a certain house that as it happens is painted white... Should pay for it. Preferably with his head.
Strat
Just in case you did drift over here, I read up on the Nato attacks. It was only after lenghty negotiations that were obviously doomed that Nato acted to stop the former Yugoslavian military from attacking Kosovo, they had a massive troop and equipment build up around Kosovo, action had to be taken. Now should it have came to that, no way! But unfortunately, the powers that be have these great arsenal`s at their disposal`s and feel the need to prove themselves. Surprisingly , even the French backed the Nato troops.
Though Russia`s stance could have very well started the cold war all over again. Luckily it ended quickly. And at least all the major world powers are still friends. Theorectically anyway.
[guitardude] Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:23:49 PM
Strat
Just in case you did drift over here, I read up on the Nato attacks. It was only after lenghty negotiations that were obviously doomed that Nato acted to stop the former Yugoslavian military from attacking Kosovo, they had a massive troop and equipment build up around Kosovo, action had to be taken. Now should it have came to that, no way! But unfortunately, the powers that be have these great arsenal`s at their disposal`s and feel the need to prove themselves. Surprisingly , even the French backed the Nato troops.
Though Russia`s stance could have very well started the cold war all over again. Luckily it ended quickly. And at least all the major world powers are still friends. Theorectically anyway.
[Palmer Griffiths] Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:26:05 AM
I thought this would be a pretty good link for this thread. Some Commentary from the Late Great George Carlin.
[Head banger] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:23:17 PM
well, here banks make more than oil companies, but.... what to do about it. the real thing would be to eliminate all the tax dodges and make the tax code one page long. but that wont happen. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:59:06 PM)
spapad wrote:
You can't see the vid? Well, essentially it said that we can't tax the rich, we are just supposed to wait until their trousers grow so heavy from money that some coins fall out and the rat hunting little guys might grab a few coins, and we cant tax the middle class because they are the ones who get things done in this country, but we should go after the poor who earn less than 30,000 per year and if for tax deductions and excetera, they actually end up getting a refund then they are the ones who should be serving in the military. I only earn 24,000 a year and support a child and manage. So by the conservatives standards I would be going to Iraq. Good idea!
BTW Exxon made more than any company last year, and because of off shore contracts paid not one penny of tax to the U.S.
Bout summs it up.
Head banger wrote:
wish I could see it. not available in canada. that pisses me off.
spapad wrote:
HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol
You can't see the vid? Well, essentially it said that we can't tax the rich, we are just supposed to wait until their trousers grow so heavy from money that some coins fall out and the rat hunting little guys might grab a few coins, and we cant tax the middle class because they are the ones who get things done in this country, but we should go after the poor who earn less than 30,000 per year and if for tax deductions and excetera, they actually end up getting a refund then they are the ones who should be serving in the military. I only earn 24,000 a year and support a child and manage. So by the conservatives standards I would be going to Iraq. Good idea!
BTW Exxon made more than any company last year, and because of off shore contracts paid not one penny of tax to the U.S.
Bout summs it up. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:45:33 PM)
Head banger wrote:
wish I could see it. not available in canada. that pisses me off.
spapad wrote:
HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol
[Head banger] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:45:33 PM
wish I could see it. not available in canada. that pisses me off. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:41:09 PM)
spapad wrote:
HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol
HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:30:54 PM)
That was a knee slapper. I remember that. The problem with the health care reform debate here in America was that it was split into two artificial choices-let people die and go bankrupt, or insure everyone! This does not make sense. The "solution" does not address the problem, but adds more to our national ills. Every gov't agency is bleeding out of every orifice, and it is getting worse with each day (or bill) passing.
Been reading "The Creature From Jekyll Island" lately. Anybody read it? Talks about the Federal Reserve, bailouts, our money. The more one finds out about our federal reserve, fractional reserve banking, bailouts, and our debt backed currency, the more one begins to wonder how long this will all last.
Going to track down my copy of War is a Racket as well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:19:54 AM)
Head banger wrote:
ah the beauty of socialized medicine, the best treatment is not available.
Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:59:27 PM Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 11:21:00 PM
[Head banger] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:19:58 AM
dunno. not in a position to discuss. heard about it on the radio briefly. some woman was saying all doctors would quit seeing insured patients and that everyone would have to buy insurance, which seemed kind of contradictory. how would no doctor deal with insurance if all patients must have insurance. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:17:24 PM)
ron h wrote:
Hmmmm...I'm very suprised no one has had anything to say about the new Health Care Bill that's just been passed in the good 'ol U.S. od A.
[ron h] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:17:24 PM
Hmmmm...I'm very suprised no one has had anything to say about the new Health Care Bill that's just been passed in the good 'ol U.S. od A.
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:19:54 AM
ah the beauty of socialized medicine, the best treatment is not available.
The cap should be on how much the lawyers can charge. The percentage taken by lawyers is ridiculous compared to what the claimant ends up getting.
So it's hard to have lawyers restrict lawyer earnings since most, if not all law-makers are...yes...lawyers. It's a conflict of interest and the poor man loses every time. Unless there are major riots going on for a prolonged length of time, the guys upstairs won't listen. See how easy the current administration folded because of the set up protests at local level gatherings.
[Bev] Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:33:13 AM
Almost included the cost of frivolous lawsuits but I believe a cap is in place with regard to how much a claimant is entitled? It's still an issue for physicians as insurance costs mount for them as well.
Also, is the ever present unscrupulous caregiver / insurance / pharmiceutical co men nage a trois - lol, and the predetorial nature in the way some patients' fraudulently file claims, making it more difficult for the legitimate claimant and physician to have an affordable relationship.
All these issues have been mentioned before. There will likely be no perfect healthcare system until eveyone accepts how they factor in the equation. By and large the system, as I see it anyway, attempts to level the field for all concerned. Yes, even me the middle guy. By this age I am prolly not gonna encounter any major illness. By the time I do, I will be old enough to file for medicare. Any unforseen issues, well, I should have planned well in advance for those when I was earning a decent living, right? ; )
Think that's all I have on the subject.
If you'd like to take a look at the links to HIPPA / COBRA
Any healthcare changes will come down to budget amendments. Since 2001 there have been many catestrophic events that have redirected dollars: armed conflict, hurricane(s), etc. Until the coffers are restored via tax increases, and the insurance companies and medical supply companies capping costs / wages, it will be a long road to reform.
Edited at: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:34:31 AM
[Head banger] Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:15 AM
I think that finding a way to cap costs, be it thru legislation or increasing competition will be the key to any healthcare changes in the US. my brother was in a car accident there years ago. trip to hospital cost 10K(car insurance paid eventualy)
itemized bill included 2 asprin fo $110. now that might have been to factor in the nurse bringing them to him, but still...
I dunno how much room there is for tax increases, but there is room to work on the cost side. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:21:21 AM)
Bev wrote:
Any healthcare changes will come down to budget amendments. Since 2001 there have been many catestrophic events that have redirected dollars: armed conflict, hurricane(s), etc. Until the coffers are restored via tax increases, and the insurance companies and medical supply companies capping costs / wages, it will be a long road to reform.
[Bev] Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:21:21 AM
Any healthcare changes will come down to budget amendments. Since 2001 there have been many catestrophic events that have redirected dollars: armed conflict, hurricane(s), etc. Until the coffers are restored via tax increases, and the insurance companies and medical supply companies capping costs / wages, it will be a long road to reform.
[.] Monday, September 14, 2009 8:34:38 PM
If the family won the case in court, the court costs and fees are paid by the DPW. IMO Eminent Domain should only be used when extensive studies prove there is no way around it, it should be the law of last resort.
If you become incorporated, then perhaps your roads nearby have a chance at being improved. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 14, 2009 7:23:55 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
We just got through a BIG battle here by the Department of Public Works who wanted to do a land snatch on a farm that had been in a family for 100 years. Imminent Domain. Bunch of crap if you ask me. Right to steal someone's land for the good of the public?! They had a massive battle and the city decided to save face and build a bit down the road (who knows HOW much it cost the family to defend themselves.....signs / lawsuits / etc). Absurd.
I am really just waiting for the day when they declare my side of the street part of the "city proper" and incorporate us. Sooner or later, I'd guess. Best prepare to prove my septic system is up to par, eh?
spapad wrote:
Now here is one that gets me! As far as local Gov goes. A few years back a neighborhood got a little more upscale, and the county anounced they were putting waterlines into the area and if you could not prove you well and septic was up to par, you where going to be put on the list to be converted to the new water system. Why? Money grubbing bastards!
guidogodoy wrote:
Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
Where AmI wrote:
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
[.] Monday, September 14, 2009 8:30:56 PM
You're right, Guido. If you consider you HAVE to own a vehicle to move around $, then you can consider that yet another tax $. I think you also have to have a license to drill a well $, pay a driller $ and pay to be allowed to have the well $
Septic tank has to be emptied every so often $
Are you allowed to burn your own trash so you don't have to pay for removal?
Add to that your property taxes may change $ since you did improvements on the place [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 14, 2009 6:08:17 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
Where AmI wrote:
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
Edited at: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:36:40 PM
[spapad] Monday, September 14, 2009 7:31:31 PM
Yep, better be ready to prove it "perks" and is sound, and that your well is clean! Politics to me always just seem very messed up, and I really can not deffend too many points as they are to ambiguous with what they do so much, I just can't get it. That is why, for the most part, I don't post here too often. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 14, 2009 7:23:55 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
We just got through a BIG battle here by the Department of Public Works who wanted to do a land snatch on a farm that had been in a family for 100 years. Imminent Domain. Bunch of crap if you ask me. Right to steal someone's land for the good of the public?! They had a massive battle and the city decided to save face and build a bit down the road (who knows HOW much it cost the family to defend themselves.....signs / lawsuits / etc). Absurd.
I am really just waiting for the day when they declare my side of the street part of the "city proper" and incorporate us. Sooner or later, I'd guess. Best prepare to prove my septic system is up to par, eh?
spapad wrote:
Now here is one that gets me! As far as local Gov goes. A few years back a neighborhood got a little more upscale, and the county anounced they were putting waterlines into the area and if you could not prove you well and septic was up to par, you where going to be put on the list to be converted to the new water system. Why? Money grubbing bastards!
guidogodoy wrote:
Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
Where AmI wrote:
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
[guidogodoy] Monday, September 14, 2009 7:23:55 PM
We just got through a BIG battle here by the Department of Public Works who wanted to do a land snatch on a farm that had been in a family for 100 years. Imminent Domain. Bunch of crap if you ask me. Right to steal someone's land for the good of the public?! They had a massive battle and the city decided to save face and build a bit down the road (who knows HOW much it cost the family to defend themselves.....signs / lawsuits / etc). Absurd.
I am really just waiting for the day when they declare my side of the street part of the "city proper" and incorporate us. Sooner or later, I'd guess. Best prepare to prove my septic system is up to par, eh? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Monday, September 14, 2009 7:03:20 PM)
spapad wrote:
Now here is one that gets me! As far as local Gov goes. A few years back a neighborhood got a little more upscale, and the county anounced they were putting waterlines into the area and if you could not prove you well and septic was up to par, you where going to be put on the list to be converted to the new water system. Why? Money grubbing bastards!
guidogodoy wrote:
Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
Where AmI wrote:
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
[spapad] Monday, September 14, 2009 7:03:20 PM
Now here is one that gets me! As far as local Gov goes. A few years back a neighborhood got a little more upscale, and the county anounced they were putting waterlines into the area and if you could not prove you well and septic was up to par, you where going to be put on the list to be converted to the new water system. Why? Money grubbing bastards! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 14, 2009 6:08:17 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
Where AmI wrote:
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
[guidogodoy] Monday, September 14, 2009 6:08:17 PM
Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Where AmI from Monday, September 14, 2009 5:59:26 PM)
Where AmI wrote:
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
[.] Monday, September 14, 2009 5:59:26 PM
At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care.
[Head banger] Monday, September 14, 2009 9:43:59 AM
just imagine if elected officials anywhere just actualy managed to get shit done? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, September 14, 2009 8:48:53 AM)
Bev wrote:
HB, If by work you mean there is a slight chance they'll vote to put it to a vote after mid-term elections in November - lol It's still very frustrating. Admittedly, healthcare is a good stumping issue, and if handled correctly will light enough fires to get constituents on the phone; or better yet, use the very text we (here in the US) blog with, copy and paste and put in an email to representatives. One letter can be copied any number of times ...
After back reading several more times this morning though my response is gonna take a little longer. Having grown up an Army brat, I was covered 'til 23 (coverage has changed significantly for dependents since then). Working for two large global corporations well into my thirties, I also had the luxury of splitting the cost of benefits with my employers at an extremely generous rate (mid-eighties - late-nineties). Now have no coverage and fall well in the middle category WAI mentioned to much to receive govt assistance, too little to afford private ...
I do remember in between jobs in the nineties there being enacted HIPPA / COBRA for those with coverage and per-existing conditions. I want to research those again to see if there is a loophole that might help 'Freeze before I comment on that; although, I'm sure having the fire and determination he has, I'm sure he's left no stone unturned in this regard. I hope you don't mind my looking again, though : )
'til later ...
(Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, September 14, 2009 7:30:42 AM)
Head banger wrote:
well, at least there is a slight chance your government will acomplish something. ours is doomed to yammering on, untill one party forces an election which sounds like it is coming soon.
Bev wrote:
Oh my! A discussion about yammering politicians and healthcare reform. Two topics I can't pass up - lol 'Will have to wait 'til I return from dropping the youngling off at practice.
To tempt your mind though: I think this yammering has been going on while the US congress has been in recess for the Summer. So I don't believe much could have been done until they return, which I believe will be today.
K, back later y'all : )
Edited at: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:52:50 AM
[Bev] Monday, September 14, 2009 8:48:53 AM
HB, If by work you mean there is a slight chance they'll vote to put it to a vote after mid-term elections in November - lol It's still very frustrating. Admittedly, healthcare is a good stumping issue, and if handled correctly will light enough fires to get constituents on the phone; or better yet, use the very text we (here in the US) blog with, copy and paste and put in an email to representatives. One letter can be copied any number of times ...
After back reading several more times this morning though my response is gonna take a little longer. Having grown up an Army brat, I was covered 'til 23 (coverage has changed significantly for dependents since then). Working for two large global corporations well into my thirties, I also had the luxury of splitting the cost of benefits with my employers at an extremely generous rate (mid-eighties - late-nineties). Now have no coverage and fall well in the middle category WAI mentioned to much to receive govt assistance, too little to afford private ...
I do remember in between jobs in the nineties there being enacted HIPPA / COBRA for those with coverage and per-existing conditions. I want to research those again to see if there is a loophole that might help 'Freeze before I comment on that; although, I'm sure having the fire and determination he has, I'm sure he's left no stone unturned in this regard. I hope you don't mind my looking again, though : )
well, at least there is a slight chance your government will acomplish something. ours is doomed to yammering on, untill one party forces an election which sounds like it is coming soon.
Bev wrote:
Oh my! A discussion about yammering politicians and healthcare reform. Two topics I can't pass up - lol 'Will have to wait 'til I return from dropping the youngling off at practice.
To tempt your mind though: I think this yammering has been going on while the US congress has been in recess for the Summer. So I don't believe much could have been done until they return, which I believe will be today.
K, back later y'all : )
Edited at: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:52:50 AM
[Head banger] Monday, September 14, 2009 7:30:42 AM
well, at least there is a slight chance your government will acomplish something. ours is doomed to yammering on, untill one party forces an election which sounds like it is coming soon. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Monday, September 14, 2009 6:21:53 AM)
Bev wrote:
Oh my! A discussion about yammering politicians and healthcare reform. Two topics I can't pass up - lol 'Will have to wait 'til I return from dropping the youngling off at practice.
To tempt your mind though: I think this yammering has been going on while the US congress has been in recess for the Summer. So I don't believe much could have been done until they return, which I believe will be today.
K, back later y'all : )
[Bev] Monday, September 14, 2009 6:21:53 AM
Oh my! A discussion about yammering politicians and healthcare reform. Two topics I can't pass up - lol 'Will have to wait 'til I return from dropping the youngling off at practice.
To tempt your mind though: I think this yammering has been going on while the US congress has been in recess for the Summer. So I don't believe much could have been done until they return, which I believe will be today.
I have read that in many places Freeze - Obama needs to get the balls to just do something about it. Thanks for your comments, that makes a lot of sense to me, and I agree, the fact that the US can spend shit loads invading countries etc, but it's own citizens don't get healthcare as a right, is absolutely ridiculous. I am also sorry to hear that the Princess isn't well and no one will help you guys out health care wise
Deep Freeze wrote:
Holy CRAP!!! Guido..? In the SOCIAL Thread?!??!?!?!?!? HA!!!!!!!!!!!! I have seen it all now! GREAT comments from all, I must say. Now for MINE!!!;
Most of you here know my situation and the series of events that led me to where I am today. The "system" is a nightmare for those that really need it...at least from my experience. Now then, I say this only because I went through a HORRIBLE experience, emerged on the other side and now have to watch as a loved one is beaten down. You see, I have reached the point where there is nothing more for me to worry about. But, the Princess is gravely ill and NO insurance company will take her. Not at ANY price. She requires monthy medications and phlebotomies once every three months or so and NO ONE will help us. No one.
We live in the greatest, richest most powerful country on earth and yet our citizens do not have health care as a RIGHT???? I find that deplorable. As far as paying for it, do any of you know the exact number of "pet" projects and "pork" that are funded every year?? And that is only the start. Waste in government is well documented. We can blow up other people very well and with great precision but we cannot care for our own citizens?? Deplorable.
I do not have all the answers, nor do I feel it is my job to have them. Guido is right, it IS a mess. Of course, Where is right, too! It does work for some of us and I am one of those So what have we got to lose? It is already fu$#@& up!! I HAVE health care and I can see a doctor ANYTIME. But it is not me that I worry about. I believe SOMETHNG needs to be done and it is up to the politicans to do it because NO ONE ELSE WILL! The Republicans (my party) want to fight it, the Democrats want to debate it, the insurance industry wants to kill it and the religious folks want to pray about it....I want to see action. If Obama has a plan and wants to try it, I say GO FOR IT. All I ask it that he DO something and stop yammering on and on about it while good, legitimate Americans get sicker and sicker.
