I agree with you Hot Rockin' Metal Goddess

		HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
		From what I can tell, people that do not like Christmas / Christmas music are the ones upset by this album. Music is very personal and we all feel differently about songs because music has the power to take you back in time. I've always loved Christmas and Christmas carols so I'm excited to listen to what Rob has done with those old standards. But for those that don't like those songs in the first place, I can understand your not liking the album. I can see how someone that doesn't like Christmas in the first place would see this as a Stryper type of album, minus the spandex and big hair....*ugh* - at least that's what I'm getting reading the posts. I'm sorry that some fans will hate this album, but I'll be decorating and baking listening to this album all season long I'm sure. This just shows me that Rob can do ANYTHING! He just absolutely AMAZES me.

JT- wrote: i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way.


But JT,it just doen't work like that for most people. For me,I instantly either like it,or I do not like it right away. Nothing "grows on me" like how people say the song is growing on me,well nothing grows on me ever and the first listen of Nostradamus in its intirety I instantly did not like the album. For Skybreaker,he doesn't like Angel Of Retribution that much at all but to me its Judas Priest's 5th best album and has been since it came out but I'm not going to convince him that the album is great,to him it sucks and it is what it is.
 
Same thing with Guido,he hates the "A Matter Of Life And Death" album from Iron Maiden and thinks it sucks,well to me it is a good album,its not an A+ but its thier best album since Powerslave in my opinion and out of 10 tracks I like 8 of them(I hate Different World and Benjiman Bregg) but to Guido it is simply not,its a terrible album of terrible Iron Maiden material. Now to me I'm going no way man its pretty good,but it must remain a crappy album to him because what he hears is not going to get any better.

 Nostradamus is this way to me and just because they poured thier heart and soul into the album doesn't mean we should like it to make up for thier hurt feelings and such(lol!).  They have had many critics bash them and sometimes rightfully so. The Turbo album is the WORST thing Judas Priest has EVER done and I think that Winter Songs is the worst idea that Rob has come up with! lol!!

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic.