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IRON MAIDEN PIECE OF MIND 1983
Wow....somebody that actually knows what to post in here.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:59:41 PM)| |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | | My classic metal album of the day is Piece Of Mind - Iron Maiden (1983). |
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| [Nicholas Fivepennies] Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:04:27 PM | |
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Schließen sie den mund, arschlog! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:57:10 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What the fuck do you know about classic heavy metal anyways? Alls I ever see you doing is causing trouble in here.....you are a "joke".
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| [ron h] Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:03:11 PM | |
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Checking a personalitites profile is no proof of anything...and I'm not saying you are or are not anything...just pointing ou the obvious...
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:01:27 PM | |
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That's Darryn!! That's all!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:57:10 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What the fuck do you know about classic heavy metal anyways? Alls I ever see you doing is causing trouble in here.....you are a "joke".
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| [jimmyjames] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:59:41 PM | |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:57:10 PM | |
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What the fuck do you know about classic heavy metal anyways? Alls I ever see you doing is causing trouble in here.....you are a "joke".
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicholas Fivepennies from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:51:40 PM)| | | Nicholas Fivepennies wrote: | | Here's a picture of Phantom A6, shouting at his wife and calling her names:
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:54:30 PM | |
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I don't have your likings!! Go and try to get a life!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicholas Fivepennies from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:51:40 PM)| | | Nicholas Fivepennies wrote: | | Here's a picture of Phantom A6, shouting at his wife and calling her names:
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| [Nicholas Fivepennies] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:51:40 PM | |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:49:22 PM | |
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
"This" is what I wrote in response to Craig the very first response to his "Winger" post........"he" is the one who chose to get his panties in a fuckin wad.
Soilent Green or whatever the fuck your name is,if you don't like me or this thread....then why don't you stay the "FUCK" out of it then? I don't want you in here anyways.
And for all other members who have a problem with me...........and the rest of you.....this thread was created by Bazooka Joe for a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"..if I don't like what somebody puts in here like
the shit band 'Winger"...then I have every mother fuckin right to "bash" the individual who puts it in here...this is an open forum..................................
Same goes with members like 'Craig"...if he wants to put something in this thread he has every right to do so.............
........but he is going to get a fuckin rashin of shit from elite old school traditional heavy metal supporters like my fucking self!!!!!!!!!!! GOT IT YET????
Or should I have to draw a fuckin picture dumb fucks? Jesus H.Christ you people are so fucking stupid it blows my fucking mind in two!
Go ahead and post Poison,Winger,Warrant,White Lion,Faster Pussycat,Dokken....but you will have to read my posts telling you how much of a fucking poser you are
and a fucking internet troublemaker by posting it purposely in a thread where classic heavy metal is defended.
Call me "childish"...call me an asshole...call me an internet bully..call me anything you want that makes you feel better...frankly..I DON'T GIVE A FYING MOTHER FUCK" WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME
because I "like myself".....this is what seperates me from you. All of you who are troubled by this need a fuckin reality check..........
If most of you can't figure out what belongs in this thread than simply "DON'T POST IN HERE".....leave it for the elite classic traditional heavy metal fans like Ron,Deep Freeze,Hellrider...many more and myself
who know what the fuck heavy metal is all about. If you think this is a "rant" or a "temper tantrum"...(LOMFL!)...then your sadly mistaken....ask Freeze...he has seen me while upset...I am NOWHERE even fucking near.
I am a passionate traditional classic heavy metal fan and seem to be one of the extremely few who know that Motorhead belongs in this thread than a shit band such as Winger.
Say anything you want to say...it won't change anything.......go ahead and post whatever you want....I'll be right here to rip you a new asshole. "Make my day". lol!.
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:32:03 PM | |
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- LMFAO again -
Who's screamin' n yellin'?? And who's agressive here??
Read your own postings, take a look in the mirror and you know who it is!!
Aww... correct German spelling, Darryn!! But you have misunderstood the meaning about it!!
And I don't get my ass off this thread!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicholas Fivepennies from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:23:38 PM)| | | Nicholas Fivepennies wrote: | | That's what I don't like about you German folks. You can never get your point across without being agressive. You always need to scream and yell.
I guess it has something to do with the language. For example: in English we say "a butterfly", in French they call it "un papillon", in Spanish "una mariposa" and in German... EIN SCHMETTERLING!!!!!
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| [Nicholas Fivepennies] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:23:38 PM | |
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That's what I don't like about you German folks. You can never get your point across without being agressive. You always need to scream and yell.
I guess it has something to do with the language. For example: in English we say "a butterfly", in French they call it "un papillon", in Spanish "una mariposa" and in German... EIN SCHMETTERLING!!!!!
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:13:36 PM | |
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-LMFAO-
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicholas Fivepennies from Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:07:55 PM)| | | Nicholas Fivepennies wrote: | | You should have your head examined, Fritz. My name is Nick and I've been around since 2006. Check out my profile if you want proof. The name Darryn doesn't ring a bell. Who is he? What's all the fuss about?
And stop screaming at me like that with those big bold letters. God damn kraut. 
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(Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:38:46 PM)
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Aww... Darryn!! Another one of your loser accounts!!
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Reading the useless post of the poser Phantom A6...
Lights up another cig....
Reaches down and taps the delete button.....
BAM!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:19:07 PM)
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Darryn, it would be awesome when there was a self destruct button instead of the post button especially for the great asshole you are!!
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Hey J.D.! How's it going??
Believe me when I say that "I feel your pain"!! LOL!!!! And I have a great idea to solve this problem! Check it out! Now we will have to run this by Murray for approval first but check it out! Whoever creates a thread like say "The Classic Heavy Metal Thread" has the ability to delete a post he doesn't approve of!!!! Thats right!! Complete control of the thread!!! LMAO dude!!! Kind of like a mini moderator of the thread!! So when some poser comes along and post something like say "Winger" ROFL!!!....with just a click of a button.....it is gone!!! Bam!!!!! And by no means am I calling Mista Wagenhoffer a poser, Just used that for an example. By the way..enjoyed the Reb Beach video!! So what do you think J.D.??? I think it would work!!! I think it would be a blast just sittin here hittin that delete button when I see a post I don't like!! LOL dude!!! Give it some thought J.D. and let me know what you think.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:51:25 PM)
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:54:49 PM | |
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Ya, of course, Darryn!! Anyone who's reading your postings
knows it's you!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicholas Fivepennies from Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:41:53 PM)| | | Nicholas Fivepennies wrote: | | My name is Nick. Who's Darryn? What are you talking about, Fritz?
(Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:38:46 PM)
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Aww... Darryn!! Another one of your loser accounts!!
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Let's go kill that god damn kraut executioner style.
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Reading the useless post of the poser Phantom A6...
Lights up another cig....
Reaches down and taps the delete button.....
BAM!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:19:07 PM)
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Darryn, it would be awesome when there was a self destruct button instead of the post button especially for the great asshole you are!!
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FreakyMetalHead wrote: |
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Hey J.D.! How's it going??
Believe me when I say that "I feel your pain"!! LOL!!!! And I have a great idea to solve this problem! Check it out! Now we will have to run this by Murray for approval first but check it out! Whoever creates a thread like say "The Classic Heavy Metal Thread" has the ability to delete a post he doesn't approve of!!!! Thats right!! Complete control of the thread!!! LMAO dude!!! Kind of like a mini moderator of the thread!! So when some poser comes along and post something like say "Winger" ROFL!!!....with just a click of a button.....it is gone!!! Bam!!!!! And by no means am I calling Mista Wagenhoffer a poser, Just used that for an example. By the way..enjoyed the Reb Beach video!! So what do you think J.D.??? I think it would work!!! I think it would be a blast just sittin here hittin that delete button when I see a post I don't like!! LOL dude!!! Give it some thought J.D. and let me know what you think.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:51:25 PM)
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:38:46 PM | |
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Aww... Darryn!! Another one of your loser accounts!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Nicholas Fivepennies from Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:24:10 PM)| | | Nicholas Fivepennies wrote: | | Let's go kill that god damn kraut executioner style.
| | | FreakyMetalHead wrote: | | Reading the useless post of the poser Phantom A6...
Lights up another cig....
Reaches down and taps the delete button.....
BAM!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:19:07 PM)
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Darryn, it would be awesome when there was a self destruct button instead of the post button especially for the great asshole you are!!
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FreakyMetalHead wrote: |
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Hey J.D.! How's it going??
Believe me when I say that "I feel your pain"!! LOL!!!! And I have a great idea to solve this problem! Check it out! Now we will have to run this by Murray for approval first but check it out! Whoever creates a thread like say "The Classic Heavy Metal Thread" has the ability to delete a post he doesn't approve of!!!! Thats right!! Complete control of the thread!!! LMAO dude!!! Kind of like a mini moderator of the thread!! So when some poser comes along and post something like say "Winger" ROFL!!!....with just a click of a button.....it is gone!!! Bam!!!!! And by no means am I calling Mista Wagenhoffer a poser, Just used that for an example. By the way..enjoyed the Reb Beach video!! So what do you think J.D.??? I think it would work!!! I think it would be a blast just sittin here hittin that delete button when I see a post I don't like!! LOL dude!!! Give it some thought J.D. and let me know what you think.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:51:25 PM)
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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| [Phantom A6] Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:41:47 PM | |
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Another fricken post of the worthless loser
named Darryn Heloffs!! The real king of Loserland!!
Stick your head in the next toiletbowl and press
the button to flush yourself away!!
Crap to crap!! Woooosh!! Sounds like Al Bundys "Ferguson"!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by FreakyMetalHead from Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:11:51 PM)| | | FreakyMetalHead wrote: | | Reading the useless post of the poser Phantom A6...
Lights up another cig....
Reaches down and taps the delete button.....
BAM!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:19:07 PM)
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Darryn, it would be awesome when there was a self destruct button instead of the post button especially for the great asshole you are!!
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Hey J.D.! How's it going??
Believe me when I say that "I feel your pain"!! LOL!!!! And I have a great idea to solve this problem! Check it out! Now we will have to run this by Murray for approval first but check it out! Whoever creates a thread like say "The Classic Heavy Metal Thread" has the ability to delete a post he doesn't approve of!!!! Thats right!! Complete control of the thread!!! LMAO dude!!! Kind of like a mini moderator of the thread!! So when some poser comes along and post something like say "Winger" ROFL!!!....with just a click of a button.....it is gone!!! Bam!!!!! And by no means am I calling Mista Wagenhoffer a poser, Just used that for an example. By the way..enjoyed the Reb Beach video!! So what do you think J.D.??? I think it would work!!! I think it would be a blast just sittin here hittin that delete button when I see a post I don't like!! LOL dude!!! Give it some thought J.D. and let me know what you think.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:51:25 PM)
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:42:28 AM | |
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I'M NOT GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION....STOP THAT!!!!! OR I'LL CALL THE POLICE!
HOW ABOUT WE JUST THROW A PAIL OF COLD WATER IN EACH OTHERS FACES,AND CALL IT A DAY,YES?.......BESIDES THE WEATHER HERE IS TOOO NICE TODAY TO SIT ON HERE AND
FART IN EACH OTHERS DIRECTION!.......HAVE A NICE DAY!
OH,AND BY THE WAY...I AM NOT RIDICULOUS,YOU ARE... NA NA NA-NA-NA!!  ...I DON'T SUFFER FROM INSANITY,I ENJOY IT!!!!! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:12:21 AM)
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Now you're going in a total different direction, why is there no middle ground here?? I'm pointing out the fact that while you may be justified in your post, you're doing the same thing you condemn...dictator?? tin-plated soldier?? As much as I agree about the name calling, it's juvinile, it would also be wrong to call the name caller a name...that make's me no better than they are, even if I'm right!! And if you're gonna let one opinion blow all this up, that's on you. I've never lost a friend over a single opinion...that too, is ridiculous!! 
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OH OK RON, THAT'S FINE MAN NOW I SEE...I GUESS WE'RE ON THE OUTS NOW TOO,THAT'S FINE...I'M NOT SWEARING AT PEOPLE AND TELLING THEM "FUCK THIS" AND "FUCK THAT",AND "FUCK YOU" THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO YOU?...OK THEN...THAT'S FINE RON,I'VE PICKED UP "THE CHANGE" FROM YOU....NOOO PROBLEM,HAVE A GOOD ONE,ALL THE BEST!  ....AND PIP IS RIGHT...SO SORRY TO HAVE BOTHERED YOU...ENJOY! 
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Soy, but it's OK for you to use words like dictator and tin-plated soldiers?? I'll admit that some ppl go over the top, but ppl are also smart enough understand the intent of the message. You wanna go off on the name calling and such, hell, I'd probably agree with you...but to condemn something you do yourself (albeit less the foul language) is the same thing, don't you think?? I think there are enough threads to cover most posts, and if not I'm sure someone will create one. This is all quite ridiculous if you ask me!!
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BRAAAAAVO!!!!!!  .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
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I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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Wow! I go away for a day and there are "cyber-punches" thrown from all directions!!! I see our resident misogynist and the three people that still talk to him has weighed in...nice! No "blind kittens" to read to this morning??......
Another crazy day in Priestland. I will say this; I know Craig to be a stand-up guy. I do not have to agree with him all the time. Same goes for JD. Love him like a brother. I am also well aware of how he feels on this subject. Not going to back down and I am pretty sure Craig won't, either. So be it. As Craig said, "healthy debate". I guess the word "healthy" is up for debate itself?
Anyway, don't care about Winger...Poison...Def Leppard or any of the rest. Just hope that (eventually) two of the real "decent" and solid members of this Board will find middle-ground and "bury the hatchet". If not, won't be the first argument here and surely not the last.
Now then, my pick for "Classic Metal"...............Missing Persons
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It's not a question of being nice to me, but it's a question to do the same things like others you have to blamed them.
Think about it and I'm sure you know what I mean!!
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Now you're going in a total different direction, why is there no middle ground here?? I'm pointing out the fact that while you may be justified in your post, you're doing the same thing you condemn...dictator?? tin-plated soldier?? As much as I agree about the name calling, it's juvinile, it would also be wrong to call the name caller a name...that make's me no better than they are, even if I'm right!! And if you're gonna let one opinion blow all this up, that's on you. I've never lost a friend over a single opinion...that too, is ridiculous!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:01:48 AM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | OH OK RON, THAT'S FINE MAN NOW I SEE...I GUESS WE'RE ON THE OUTS NOW TOO,THAT'S FINE...I'M NOT SWEARING AT PEOPLE AND TELLING THEM "FUCK THIS" AND "FUCK THAT",AND "FUCK YOU" THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO YOU?...OK THEN...THAT'S FINE RON,I'VE PICKED UP "THE CHANGE" FROM YOU....NOOO PROBLEM,HAVE A GOOD ONE,ALL THE BEST! ....AND PIP IS RIGHT...SO SORRY TO HAVE BOTHERED YOU...ENJOY!
| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | Soy, but it's OK for you to use words like dictator and tin-plated soldiers?? I'll admit that some ppl go over the top, but ppl are also smart enough understand the intent of the message. You wanna go off on the name calling and such, hell, I'd probably agree with you...but to condemn something you do yourself (albeit less the foul language) is the same thing, don't you think?? I think there are enough threads to cover most posts, and if not I'm sure someone will create one. This is all quite ridiculous if you ask me!!
| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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FOR ONE THING MICHAEL YOU WERE LIED TO ABOUT THE PM NONSENSE,SO IF YOU WANNA DRINK THEIR KOOL-AID GO AHEAD,I'VE BEEN NOTHING BUT DECENT TO YOU,SO I'M AFRAID THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE....HOWEVER THAT'S THE THANKS I GET FOR ALWAYS BEING NICE TO YOU...TAKE CARE MICHAEL.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:04:19 AM)| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | What the fuck you're started to be upset?? Who have give you the right to judge about others?? You've insult against a female member via pm and now you're trying to post your fucking nonsens!! Go back where you come from!! Asshole!!
| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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HEY YOU BETTER NOT AGREE WITH ME MAN.....THAT WON'T BE ACCEPTABLE HERE! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:54:30 AM)| | | Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: | | | Soylent and Pip, I couldn't agree more with what you two just said. |
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What the fuck you're started to be upset?? Who have give you the right to judge about others?? You've insult against a female member via pm and now you're trying to post your fucking nonsens!! Go back where you come from!! Asshole!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:35:51 AM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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OH OK RON, THAT'S FINE MAN NOW I SEE...I GUESS WE'RE ON THE OUTS NOW TOO,THAT'S FINE...I'M NOT SWEARING AT PEOPLE AND TELLING THEM "FUCK THIS" AND "FUCK THAT",AND "FUCK YOU" THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO YOU?...OK THEN...THAT'S FINE RON,I'VE PICKED UP "THE CHANGE" FROM YOU....NOOO PROBLEM,HAVE A GOOD ONE,ALL THE BEST! ....AND PIP IS RIGHT...SO SORRY TO HAVE BOTHERED YOU...ENJOY!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:54:17 AM)| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | Soy, but it's OK for you to use words like dictator and tin-plated soldiers?? I'll admit that some ppl go over the top, but ppl are also smart enough understand the intent of the message. You wanna go off on the name calling and such, hell, I'd probably agree with you...but to condemn something you do yourself (albeit less the foul language) is the same thing, don't you think?? I think there are enough threads to cover most posts, and if not I'm sure someone will create one. This is all quite ridiculous if you ask me!!
| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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Totally agree, Ron!! Nothin' more to say!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:54:17 AM)| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | Soy, but it's OK for you to use words like dictator and tin-plated soldiers?? I'll admit that some ppl go over the top, but ppl are also smart enough understand the intent of the message. You wanna go off on the name calling and such, hell, I'd probably agree with you...but to condemn something you do yourself (albeit less the foul language) is the same thing, don't you think?? I think there are enough threads to cover most posts, and if not I'm sure someone will create one. This is all quite ridiculous if you ask me!!
| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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Soy, but it's OK for you to use words like dictator and tin-plated soldiers?? I'll admit that some ppl go over the top, but ppl are also smart enough understand the intent of the message. You wanna go off on the name calling and such, hell, I'd probably agree with you...but to condemn something you do yourself (albeit less the foul language) is the same thing, don't you think?? I think there are enough threads to cover most posts, and if not I'm sure someone will create one. This is all quite ridiculous if you ask me!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:35:51 AM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:35:51 AM | |
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BRAAAAAVO!!!!!! .....GOOD FOR YOU PIP!....I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS...FIIIINALLY,SOMEBODY ELSE WITH ENOUGH BACKBONE ON HERE,TO NOT FALL IN WITH THE GROUP OF DICTATORS ON HERE,TO TELL THESE TIN-PLATED LITTLE SOLDIERS
(BOTH SEXES BY THE WAY) AROUND HERE TO LAY OFF PEOPLE'S POSTING CHOICES!!!...YOU WANNA POST AN OPINION,POST IT!...YOU DON'T LIKE IT,FINE!...BACK THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR NAME CALLING,AND RULES OF WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T GO WHERE!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pip from Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48:09 AM)| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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Calm down Pip, I think you're missing the point here...no one is knocking you!!! We make fun and tease, it goes both ways as you do it as well...this is different in the sense that the title of this thread is Classic Heavy Metal...Winger wasn't around at the time the Classic bands were doing their thing...Def Leppard was and I can make the argument that their first 3 albums can in fact fit the description, from Pyromania on, NO, they do NOT fit the script. Not only that, your debates about the other bands you mentioned were done in the appropiate way and threads...and I have never seen anyone being mean to you about your opinion...giving you a hard time and being disrespectful are two totally different things. I'm sorry that things aren't going well for you at home, most of us are having a hard time as well, but I think you might be letting loose on us while having a heavy heart in matters that are much more important than what's going on here. I think if you sit back and catch your breath a little, you'll see this for what it is...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pip from Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:48:09 AM)| | | pip wrote: | | I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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I've just about had it with this board---it doesn't matter what someone writes about a band--it's up to each individual to interpret IN THEIR OPINION what a band is classified--I happen to think IN MY OPINION that Winger is heavy metal to some extent--the list hotrockin' typed had Def Leppard as 1 of the heavy metal bands--I think IN MY OPINION that Def Leppard is NOT a heavy metal band---
It seems to me that if 1 person posts something & everyone disagrees then that person is called names & *told off * just because they like someone else
We are all equals & we are also all individuals with our own minds & we have the freedom to post what we want
To tell someone to post in another topic is crazy--just because their beliefs aren't the same
Everyone likes David Lee Roth except for me--I prefer Sammy --so what ??
I prefer Black Sabbath with Ozzy over Heaven N Hell with Dio--so what ??--to make a comment --*what is wrong with you * or to PM me with I think you're crazy is stupid
So what if I like Ozzy's solo career better than Dio ??--so f*n what ??--I am sick & tired of defending myself just because I don't like the same people that the majority of the board does
I even posted that I didn't have a worse beatle only to be told *then why did you post in this topic then ?? *
I posted my OPINION because I wanted to--if this continues I'll just have to leave this board --I have so much shit on me at home & at work I certainly don't need it here |
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Ton of Bricks
Start the Fire
Method to Your Madness
Watch the Children Play
Over My Dead Body
The Dark
Psycho
Line of Death
Burial at Sea
Western Alliance
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Your rambling on about J.D. instead of the cause of all this...Use the proper thread for your posts...that's all ppl want...it's NOT rocket science!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:15:51 AM)| | | Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: | | Yeah, I don't care. Why should I care? This whole thing is rediculous. I came to this thread and posted something about Winger and then suddenly this J.D. Diamond keyboard hero calls me names and behaves like I broke into his house and raped his wife. WTF? This dude is a fundamentalist with absolutely no sense of humor. So no, I'm not impressed with this fruitcake. The man is so over the top, that it's actually pretty funny. He's desperately trying to intimidate me, but all he does is amusing me.
You should check my posts and compare them to his: I don't call people names. I keep always keep it decent.
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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And try to beware a little bit of your language!!
J.D. starts a little bit heavier against you, but not in the way like you did!! He's not a fundamentalist and he have a lot sense of humor, but you don't know it!! I think a lot of members are not really impressed with you!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:15:51 AM)| | | Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: | | Yeah, I don't care. Why should I care? This whole thing is rediculous. I came to this thread and posted something about Winger and then suddenly this J.D. Diamond keyboard hero calls me names and behaves like I broke into his house and raped his wife. WTF? This dude is a fundamentalist with absolutely no sense of humor. So no, I'm not impressed with this fruitcake. The man is so over the top, that it's actually pretty funny. He's desperately trying to intimidate me, but all he does is amusing me.
You should check my posts and compare them to his: I don't call people names. I keep always keep it decent.
(Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:08:43 AM)
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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Do you really thing "Winger" is a Heavy Metal band 'Cause the author of the wikipedia article wrote it??
Next time one of the members of wikipedia would write that Elvis was singing Hard Rock songs do you believe it too??
Do you think "Night Ranger" is a Heavy Metal band too??
I think there's a lot you have to learn before you start infights like this!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:28:24 AM)
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Here's what I found on Wikipedia:
"Rod Morgenstein is an American drummer and music educator. He is best known for his work with the late '80s heavy metal band Winger."
Your point being?
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Even Wikpedia does not classify WINGER as CLASSIC HEAVY METAL. Something MOST of us already knew, but apparently SOMEONE needs to see it in black and white, so here you go! ENOUGH SAID!!
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| [Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:32:35 AM | |
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"Even though technically Lemmy says they are not heavy metal..."
That's what I mean when I say that you're using double standards. You're doing it all the time.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:26:37 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | 
Motorhead Bastards 2003
Even though technically Lemmy says they are not heavy metal.....motorhead's new wave of british heavy metal sound leaks through from time to time .....
Motorhead has a dirty greasy biker rock feel to them and some riffs dip in and out of british styled heavy metal but not so much that gets your mind off of thier brand of excellent hard rock.
Motorhead has every right to be in this thread. Shit....even Def Leppard's High And Dry could fit in this thread and would not be an insult as much as "Winger".
This album is a great Motorhead album.12 songs on this disc and there are only 3 tracks I don't care for...but the other 9 songs are classic Motorhead.
Tracks like the opener "On Your Feet Or On Your Knees"....."Burner"......."I Am The Sword"....."Born To Raise Hell"......awsome album.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:17:56 PM)
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| [Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:28:24 AM | |
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Here's what I found on Wikipedia:
"Rod Morgenstein is an American drummer and music educator. He is best known for his work with the late '80s heavy metal band Winger."
Your point being?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:56:11 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Even Wikpedia does not classify WINGER as CLASSIC HEAVY METAL. Something MOST of us already knew, but apparently SOMEONE needs to see it in black and white, so here you go! ENOUGH SAID!!
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| [Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:15:51 AM | |
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Yeah, I don't care. Why should I care? This whole thing is rediculous. I came to this thread and posted something about Winger and then suddenly this J.D. Diamond keyboard hero calls me names and behaves like I broke into his house and raped his wife. WTF? This dude is a fundamentalist with absolutely no sense of humor. So no, I'm not impressed with this fruitcake. The man is so over the top, that it's actually pretty funny. He's desperately trying to intimidate me, but all he does is amusing me.
You should check my posts and compare them to his: I don't call people names. I keep always keep it decent.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:08:43 AM)
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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"Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!"...Craig
That's exactly the point Craig...you don't care!! Look at these posts...there are plenty here who care...all except you. Now, why be so stubborn and stir the hornets nest??
Remember the title of the thread...Your Classic Heavy Metal Album Of The Day!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:44:39 PM)
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Classic metal, classic heavy metal, classic rock, hair metal,... Who the fuck cares? I don't care what it's called. These guys play solid drumlines, catchy riffs and killer guitar solos. They rock!
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Hey Craig...look at the name again...J.D. is different than JD...JD is the most respected member in name only, as a man he's a tool and is deserving of nobodies respect!!!!
The J.D. you are engeged with is a hell of a guy and you'd be well served to understand his intent...as he is dead on correct.
By NOBODY'S standard is Winger in any way, shape or form considered a Classic Metal Band...hell, Kip will tell you that himself. So why are you so stubborn about something the band itself witll tell you your wrong???
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I like a healthy debate, but I will not continue this discussion with you. You simply can't have a mature debate with someone who uses double standards and likes to call people names. We will simply have to agree to disagree. End of story.
I noticed that you are the most respected member of this board, but I couldn't care less about that. You don't own this place. Better keep that in mind, buddy. This section of the board is called "Beyond the realms of Priest" for a reason. So in this section I can post anything I want. And besides: everybody has his own definition of classic heavy metal. It's a personal thing. To me "Winger" is definitely a part of that movement, which means I have every right to post in here.
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Yes dumbshit yes........"Rob K.K. Glenn Ian and Dave Holland were all 5 a bunch of "posers" with the "Turbo" album. And the "Turbo album" doesn't belong in the "Classic Heavy Metal Thread" either!
Rob & company were a bunch of posers for the entire Turbo era...it was equally cheesy as "Winger"...... ...But the rebounded with the Ram It Down album even though it was not that great of an album...the had thier image back and thier sound was returning to a normal heavy metal album...yes Love Zone and I'm A Rocker was lame....but the band had thier studs and spikes back and thier sound was beginning to pave way for Painkiller.
Not to mention...Love Zone and I'm A Rocker blows away anything "Winger" has ever done.
So what the fuck are you trying to prove here.....??? Nothing is the answer. You thought you were cute for posting a shit band and shit album in the classic heavy metal thread and you got slapped in the puffer for it!
I am a "guardian" of classic traditional heavy metal done the traditional way by the masters of this art. Who the fuck are YOU for questioning "MY knowlege" within the realm of heavy metal or metal in general anyways you Winger loving
unmetal supporting glam nostalgic retro trend poser!!!?? What the fuck don't you understand about not posting a non-classic heavy metal band in this thread? Are you fucking retarted? Fuck.
Its not "rocket science" guy....get a fucking clue.
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Okay, fair enough.
If I follow your logic Judas Priest became a full-blown poser band in 1986 when they released the "Lemon". Yah, I'm talking about Turbo. That album is a 1980's cheesefest. Everything about the Turbo era was cheesy: the outfits, the hairdos, the girly metal look, the "check out my hairless chest" outfits... The only thing Rob did back then was walking around with that silly mullet. It was even a million times cheesier than any Winger record. It was so cheesy that it made me cringe everytime I heard it. It was so cheesy that I decided to throw my copy in the trashcan. Ram It Down wasn't any better! "Love Zone", anyone? LMAO!
Winger definitely represents a certain genre that a certain group of people don't like. But at least they sticked to their guns and always continued to release melodic metal albums, even in the early nineties when everybody jumped on the alternative bandwagon. Rob Halford on the other hand has followed just about every trend in rock music. He released heavy metal albums when heavy metal reigned supreme during the early eighties. During the mid eighties glam became all the rage and he decided to put out a glam album in 1986... and another one in 1988... During the early nineties he suddenly became "alternative" and released a few grunge albums with Fight. After that he changed styles again by releasing a trendy industrial record. And so on... and so on... According to your logic this makes Rob one of the biggest posers in rock history. Now how do you live with that?
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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Darryn, it would be awesome when there was a self destruct button instead of the post button especially for the great asshole you are!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by FreakyMetalHead from Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:26:01 PM)| | | FreakyMetalHead wrote: | | Hey J.D.! How's it going??
Believe me when I say that "I feel your pain"!! LOL!!!! And I have a great idea to solve this problem! Check it out! Now we will have to run this by Murray for approval first but check it out! Whoever creates a thread like say "The Classic Heavy Metal Thread" has the ability to delete a post he doesn't approve of!!!! Thats right!! Complete control of the thread!!! LMAO dude!!! Kind of like a mini moderator of the thread!! So when some poser comes along and post something like say "Winger" ROFL!!!....with just a click of a button.....it is gone!!! Bam!!!!! And by no means am I calling Mista Wagenhoffer a poser, Just used that for an example. By the way..enjoyed the Reb Beach video!! So what do you think J.D.??? I think it would work!!! I think it would be a blast just sittin here hittin that delete button when I see a post I don't like!! LOL dude!!! Give it some thought J.D. and let me know what you think.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:51:25 PM)
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Look guy.....this is a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"!!! I don't give a flying "FUCK" if the guys from "Winger" are great musicians or not,"Winger" are a bunch of "posers" that are an "embarrassment" to the entire rock community.
"White Lion's" guitarist was an excellent musician but he was a "poser".......most of the poser bands back then were great guitarists...that doesn't mean that they were good "song writters".
"Dream Theater" are a bunch of posers as well. And so the fuck what if Kip was a bass player for Alice Cooper......what does that mean? Nothing.
Calling stellar musicians posers is not at all "childish"....it a respect for the spirit of traditional heavy metal like Judas Priest. What are you going to post next "Poison? Pssssssfff what the fuck ever. All the guys in the shit band "Winger"
are fuckin "posers"...with thier big hair,girl cloths and "poser dancing on thier MTV videos".
Obviously you have no clue as to what this "thread" is all about. And obviously you don't have a clue as to what "traditional heavy metal" is all about or you wouldn't of posted a "Winger" topic in the "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD".
(Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:47:41 AM)
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Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.
Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video.
Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?
Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.
Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.
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Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger". You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?
Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"? I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig....
I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.
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My classic metal album of the day:
Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent. |
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LOL HRMG!
Good suggestions Jimmy and Spa, I will take them in to consideration when deliberating the fate of gingerbread Bret, LMAO!
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Why not make a gingerbread man of Bret Michaels and instead of biting its' head off you could stomp on it?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:35:54 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL Ron. I've decided against that plan, its mere likeness to Mr Michaels will sour the taste 
MOTORHEAD! Now THATS more like it!
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My version has 13 songs. The last one is a cover of The Rolling Stones Jumpin' Jack Flash. Something a bit diferent from Lemmy and co.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:26:37 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | |
Motorhead Bastards 2003
Even though technically Lemmy says they are not heavy metal.....motorhead's new wave of british heavy metal sound leaks through from time to time .....
Motorhead has a dirty greasy biker rock feel to them and some riffs dip in and out of british styled heavy metal but not so much that gets your mind off of thier brand of excellent hard rock.
Motorhead has every right to be in this thread. Shit....even Def Leppard's High And Dry could fit in this thread and would not be an insult as much as "Winger".
This album is a great Motorhead album.12 songs on this disc and there are only 3 tracks I don't care for...but the other 9 songs are classic Motorhead.
Tracks like the opener "On Your Feet Or On Your Knees"....."Burner"......."I Am The Sword"....."Born To Raise Hell"......awsome album.
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:17:56 PM)
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| [Becks] Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:35:54 PM | |
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LOL Ron. I've decided against that plan, its mere likeness to Mr Michaels will sour the taste
MOTORHEAD! Now THATS more like it!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:30:38 PM)| | | ronhartsell wrote: | | You're toooooo damn funny Becks
| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm making gingerbread men at the moment, I want to make one that looks like Bret Michaels so I can have the satisfaction of chomping his head off LOL!
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | POISON....
I thought they were girls when I first saw the album and videos.... thought Kip was a chick too!! |
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| [ron h] Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:30:38 PM | |
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You're toooooo damn funny Becks
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:23:10 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I'm making gingerbread men at the moment, I want to make one that looks like Bret Michaels so I can have the satisfaction of chomping his head off LOL!
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | POISON....
I thought they were girls when I first saw the album and videos.... thought Kip was a chick too!! |
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