[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:00:33 PM
Are you Okay?? Is your son okay??? whats wrong! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:59:47 PM)
Necroticist wrote:
Am crying my fooking eyes out....
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:59:47 PM
Am crying my fooking eyes out....
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:58:59 PM
God....son had motorcycle crash tonight..is ok...but was nasty...
[icecreamman] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:54:18 PM
I cuaght myself going 90 to epitaph! Ha Ha!!!
Funny I usually slow down when listening to Hell Rider or Demonizer!!!
I guess I am strange.
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:52:19 PM
LOL ( I know its not funny) But I noticed I do that too.. I was driving into winnipeg the other day, and I realized I was doing 15 miles over the speed limit, listening to sinner... of course...LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43:43 PM)
scorpion01 wrote:
MY WIFES FRIEND RECENTLY GOT A SPEEDING TICKET. SHE WAS ON THE GARDEN STATE PARKWAY IN NEW JERSEY AND PAINKILLER CAME ON. GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE MUSIC AND LOST TRACK OF HOW FAST SHE WAS GOING.
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
heres a bumper sticker Iam getting...LOL
LOL... I love this one..
[scorpion01] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:43:43 PM
MY WIFES FRIEND RECENTLY GOT A SPEEDING TICKET. SHE WAS ON THE GARDEN STATE PARKWAY IN NEW JERSEY AND PAINKILLER CAME ON. GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE MUSIC AND LOST TRACK OF HOW FAST SHE WAS GOING.
Oh Holy Crap - Knew would happen soon...son came off bike..is ok...can't say same fer bike tho....jeez...
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:28:39 PM
Oh Holy Crap - Knew would happen soon...son came off bike..is ok...can't say same fer bike tho....jeez...
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:27:38 PM
Ah...that was with this nick..lol.. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:42:17 PM)
Head banger wrote:
you joined the boards in 2006. see user profile.
I never got into the chat room.
Necroticist wrote:
Think i been here 5 yrs or so....in chatroom at least....might be less on the boards..
[spapad] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:48:42 PM
Nice sticker! I don't think I would put it on my car around here. I would probably get pulled over by cops on a frequent basis and sited for absurd things just because it didn't say I love Hank Williams Jr. LOL Sad, but true! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:39:37 PM)
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
heres a bumper sticker Iam getting...LOL
LOL... I love this one..
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:42:17 PM
you joined the boards in 2006. see user profile.
I never got into the chat room. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:36:07 PM)
Necroticist wrote:
Think i been here 5 yrs or so....in chatroom at least....might be less on the boards..
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:36:07 PM
Think i been here 5 yrs or so....in chatroom at least....might be less on the boards..
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:39:37 PM
heres a bumper sticker Iam getting...LOL
LOL... I love this one..
[_strat_] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:19:48 PM
A veteran, eh? Well, its "only" been a year and a half since I came along... I cant say for what was happening before it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:32:56 PM)
Head banger wrote:
hey now. I have been a member since 2003
_strat_ wrote:
Lol... Head Banger - Trying to be funny since 2006... And he still hasnt found out how.
Head banger wrote:
socialism, ruining life for everyone, since 1917
_strat_ wrote:
Yeah, but you cant have them... My comrade on your hard disk says no...
Head banger wrote:
damn, now I am hungry
_strat_ wrote:
LOL!! Well, there you have it - a wealth redestribution anti-virus program! Does it say "Virus purged succesfully" when it removes one?
Anyway, here they are... The REAL stuff! Not that funny American stuff with a hole in the middle...
Head banger wrote:
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!!
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:32:56 PM
hey now. I have been a member since 2003 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:32:05 AM)
_strat_ wrote:
Lol... Head Banger - Trying to be funny since 2006... And he still hasnt found out how.
Head banger wrote:
socialism, ruining life for everyone, since 1917
_strat_ wrote:
Yeah, but you cant have them... My comrade on your hard disk says no...
Head banger wrote:
damn, now I am hungry
_strat_ wrote:
LOL!! Well, there you have it - a wealth redestribution anti-virus program! Does it say "Virus purged succesfully" when it removes one?
Anyway, here they are... The REAL stuff! Not that funny American stuff with a hole in the middle...
Head banger wrote:
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!!
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[adrianaec_88] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:30:38 AM
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:16:07 AM
..Getting told by the wife i should rest a while....bbl
[_strat_] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:32:05 AM
Lol... Head Banger - Trying to be funny since 2006... And he still hasnt found out how. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:22:31 AM)
Head banger wrote:
socialism, ruining life for everyone, since 1917
_strat_ wrote:
Yeah, but you cant have them... My comrade on your hard disk says no...
Head banger wrote:
damn, now I am hungry
_strat_ wrote:
LOL!! Well, there you have it - a wealth redestribution anti-virus program! Does it say "Virus purged succesfully" when it removes one?
Anyway, here they are... The REAL stuff! Not that funny American stuff with a hole in the middle...
Head banger wrote:
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!!
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:22:31 AM
socialism, ruining life for everyone, since 1917 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:59:56 AM)
_strat_ wrote:
Yeah, but you cant have them... My comrade on your hard disk says no...
Head banger wrote:
damn, now I am hungry
_strat_ wrote:
LOL!! Well, there you have it - a wealth redestribution anti-virus program! Does it say "Virus purged succesfully" when it removes one?
Anyway, here they are... The REAL stuff! Not that funny American stuff with a hole in the middle...
Head banger wrote:
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!!
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[_strat_] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:59:56 AM
Yeah, but you cant have them... My comrade on your hard disk says no... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:56:01 AM)
Head banger wrote:
damn, now I am hungry
_strat_ wrote:
LOL!! Well, there you have it - a wealth redestribution anti-virus program! Does it say "Virus purged succesfully" when it removes one?
Anyway, here they are... The REAL stuff! Not that funny American stuff with a hole in the middle...
Head banger wrote:
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!!
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:56:01 AM
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!!
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:47:26 AM
probably the program is a socialist and felt I didnt need it. either way, I want a doughnut!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:45:30 AM)
_strat_ wrote:
Apparently, your anti-virus ate it!
Oh, and Darth, doughnut for a pancake - deal?
Head banger wrote:
apparently my anti virus blocked it!
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
Photobucket.... they have alot of nice ones.. I keep all 400 of my priest pics out there.. I havent posted pics in a while.
Maybe later I will throw a few out there..
photobucket.com.. just put in a word good morn.. day ect... in image search... it will give you the URL id to post. tiny pic.com has a lot too..
Hugs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
G'day MG - nice pic! Somedays i wonder where u get them all...lol.
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
Good day to all...
I hope everyone has a great day!!
Hugs MG~
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:11:34 AM
apparently my anti virus blocked it! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:36:14 AM)
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:49:46 AM
Photobucket.... they have alot of nice ones.. I keep all 400 of my priest pics out there.. I havent posted pics in a while.
Maybe later I will throw a few out there..
photobucket.com.. just put in a word good morn.. day ect... in image search... it will give you the URL id to post. tiny pic.com has a lot too..
G'day MG - nice pic! Somedays i wonder where u get them all...lol.
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
Good day to all...
I hope everyone has a great day!!
Hugs MG~
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:47:03 AM
G'day MG - nice pic! Somedays i wonder where u get them all...lol. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:45:24 AM)
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
Good day to all...
I hope everyone has a great day!!
Hugs MG~
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:45:24 AM
Good day to all...
I hope everyone has a great day!!
Hugs MG~
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:58:08 AM
Good day all - not sure how long i can keep this up..lol - if i dont catch up on sleep soon....as long as u lot are ok tho...and my chatters elsewhere :)
[scorpion01] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:30:04 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! MAN I HATE COMING INTO THE MIDDLE OF A CONVERSATION WHERE SOMEONE SAYS THEY HATE COMING IN IN THE MDDLE OF A CONVERSATION. I FEEL LIKE I MISSED MORE THAN THEY DID.
WORK IS FINALLY SLOWING UP A BIT. LISTENING TO A SMALL DEADLY SPACE - FIGHT. SOME REALLY GREAT LYRICS ON THAT ALBUM. I CAN'T CRANK IT UP THOUGH.
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:55:14 AM
Umm...Good Morning, all. Man! I hate coming in at the middle of a conversation...
[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:52:56 AM
Lol Bev...I know. I am quick to react when I see the opportunity for a friendly joke.
Bev, if Tuesday came more than once a week...wouldn't we all be suffering from a case of deja vu like Bill Murray did in Groundhog's Day?
[Bev] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:49:20 AM
lol ... yeah, DPK
point being: take each day as it comes ... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Darth_Painkiller_0870 from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:44:41 AM)
Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:
Happy Tuesday my fellow metalheads!
Bev, if Tuesday came more than once a week...wouldn't we all be suffering from a case of deja vu like Bill Murray did in Groundhog's Day?
[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:44:41 AM
Happy Tuesday my fellow metalheads!
Bev, if Tuesday came more than once a week...wouldn't we all be suffering from a case of deja vu like Bill Murray did in Groundhog's Day?
[Return_of_Darth_Painkiller_0870] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:42:31 AM
Can I get one too Strat? It would be a good follow up to the heart-attack-sized pancake I just ate. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by _strat_ from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:36:14 AM)
_strat_ wrote:
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment.
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[_strat_] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:36:14 AM
Sure. I will email it to you, as an attachment. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:09:00 AM)
Head banger wrote:
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:09:00 AM
how can we all go wrong with a tuesday. united we can kick its ass.
strat, send me a doughnut
[Bev] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:27:46 AM
Yep. Enjoy the day. Tuesdays come but once a week ; )
Cheers!
[_strat_] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:12:05 AM
Good afternoon! Yup, a great day. Our version of the heloween today... Only with doughnuts instead of pumpkins... Theyre dealing them for free (will the wonders ever cease!) with the lunch here at work... Cant wait! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:04:43 AM)
ronhartsell wrote:
Good morning fellow Metalheads...here's to hoping we all have a great day today!!!
[ron h] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:04:43 AM
Good morning fellow Metalheads...here's to hoping we all have a great day today!!!
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 8:08:12 PM
I'm not
I have to see Dark Knight, they say is pretty good
Head banger wrote:
sorry I am busy
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, someone just give me a cuddle! LOL!!
Just saw it. Heath won best supporting actor. Good. LOVED the Dark Knight. Him especially. Sad loss.
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 8:05:46 PM
Thank you oh blue-ish ball of love! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by adrianaec_88 from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:53:34 PM)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
I'm not
I have to see Dark Knight, they say is pretty good
Head banger wrote:
sorry I am busy
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, someone just give me a cuddle! LOL!!
Just saw it. Heath won best supporting actor. Good. LOVED the Dark Knight. Him especially. Sad loss.
[Head banger] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:55:34 PM
yeah, will have to check that out. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by adrianaec_88 from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:53:34 PM)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
I'm not
I have to see Dark Knight, they say is pretty good
Head banger wrote:
sorry I am busy
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, someone just give me a cuddle! LOL!!
Just saw it. Heath won best supporting actor. Good. LOVED the Dark Knight. Him especially. Sad loss.
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:53:34 PM
I'm not
I have to see Dark Knight, they say is pretty good [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:38:56 PM)
Head banger wrote:
sorry I am busy
guidogodoy wrote:
Ok, someone just give me a cuddle! LOL!!
Just saw it. Heath won best supporting actor. Good. LOVED the Dark Knight. Him especially. Sad loss.
[Head banger] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:38:56 PM
So I take it that you would come and hold my hand to re-enforce my masculinity should I ever try to watch that "supposedly" award-winning film, eh?
BTW did Heath Ledger win anything last night?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I saw it once. There are some parts in it that will somewhat scar you for life. Other than that, the Metal God himself might like it if he ever gets the chance to watch it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, that is the movie I never want to watch....especially with another guy at my side! LOL!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Se llama Brokeback Mountain.
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:30:24 PM
yes he did, I don't know in wich nomination.... I was expecting his daughter receive the Oscar....
watch it, if you don't like what you're seeing means you're straight
So I take it that you would come and hold my hand to re-enforce my masculinity should I ever try to watch that "supposedly" award-winning film, eh?
BTW did Heath Ledger win anything last night?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I saw it once. There are some parts in it that will somewhat scar you for life. Other than that, the Metal God himself might like it if he ever gets the chance to watch it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, that is the movie I never want to watch....especially with another guy at my side! LOL!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Se llama Brokeback Mountain.
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:26:12 PM
ja! ni idea q se llamaba así en inglés ahora q mencionas mountain me acuerdo que aca esSecreto en la Montaña
todo bien Vail? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:12:29 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Se llama Brokeback Mountain.
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:23:35 PM
So I take it that you would come and hold my hand to re-enforce my masculinity should I ever try to watch that "supposedly" award-winning film, eh?
BTW did Heath Ledger win anything last night? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:19:26 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I saw it once. There are some parts in it that will somewhat scar you for life. Other than that, the Metal God himself might like it if he ever gets the chance to watch it.
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, that is the movie I never want to watch....especially with another guy at my side! LOL!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Se llama Brokeback Mountain.
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:19:26 PM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I saw it once. There are some parts in it that will somewhat scar you for life. Other than that, the Metal God himself might like it if he ever gets the chance to watch it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:14:09 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, that is the movie I never want to watch....especially with another guy at my side! LOL!!!!!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Se llama Brokeback Mountain.
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:14:09 PM
Yeah, that is the movie I never want to watch....especially with another guy at my side! LOL!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Monday, February 23, 2009 7:12:29 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Se llama Brokeback Mountain.
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:12:29 PM
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:08:52 PM
je no me acuerdo la verdad... jajajaja not that is anything wrong with that, can't even tell how many times I quoted it [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, February 23, 2009 6:47:32 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[Deep Freeze] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:00:20 PM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, February 23, 2009 6:54:49 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I don't think the question was directed at you, laughing-boy!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes.
guidogodoy wrote:
Usiing Aussie shampoo I now have "more roo in my doo!!!" I have Sydney hair!
OK, DC. What the hell does that mean. Break it down to terms I can understand. Am I a dork or what?
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:54:49 PM
I don't think the question was directed at you, laughing-boy!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, February 23, 2009 6:53:28 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes.
guidogodoy wrote:
Usiing Aussie shampoo I now have "more roo in my doo!!!" I have Sydney hair!
OK, DC. What the hell does that mean. Break it down to terms I can understand. Am I a dork or what?
[Deep Freeze] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:53:28 PM
Usiing Aussie shampoo I now have "more roo in my doo!!!" I have Sydney hair!
OK, DC. What the hell does that mean. Break it down to terms I can understand. Am I a dork or what?
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:51:51 PM
Usiing Aussie shampoo I now have "more roo in my doo!!!" I have Sydney hair!
OK, DC. What the hell does that mean. Break it down to terms I can understand. Am I a dork or what?
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:47:32 PM
Darín?? Creo que no. Buena película por Piñeyero pero una de aquellas que me gustaría tener una mujer a mi lado ¿Cómo se llama la americana de los vaqueros gay? Uhhhhh,,,,no me acuerdo pero es el mismo problema (not that there is anything wrong with that <====Seinfeld JAAAAAAA!!!!)
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 5:39:55 PM
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, February 23, 2009 5:21:51 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[guidogodoy] Monday, February 23, 2009 5:21:51 PM
Adriana -
Don't remember where you posted it but I wanted to let you know I saw your message about Nueve reinas. Will do...original!
Got Burnt money (Plata quemada) here in front of me as I couldn't find Nueve reinas. I'll ask my library to order it, though. They are pretty good at getting the foreign films I want. I'll keep you posted.
[ron h] Monday, February 23, 2009 5:08:12 PM
I'm with you DF...I want the Board when I have the time...and not being able to visit made me miss it...well, you all of course...and it sure didn't take Murray lon to deal with it at all...great job!!!...hope everyone is surviving Monday as well as can be!!
[Necroticist] Monday, February 23, 2009 12:41:51 PM
Don't thank me too much MG - several ppl noticed it...i just volunteered to report it...no biggie. Hope u are ok :) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, February 23, 2009 6:38:58 AM)
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
HAPPY MONDAY TO EVERYONE......................
THANK YOU MURRAY........For taking such good care of the board!!!!!!!!!! you are awesome...........
Thank you Necro for reporting the bug..LOL
MG~
[Becks] Monday, February 23, 2009 12:17:42 PM
Yay the board is back goodmorning everyone! Well it's morning here anyways lol.
[Justin Kenny] Monday, February 23, 2009 9:38:45 AM
Alas...even cybernetic technology...much like automobiles...needs some preventative maintenance every now and again...glad it wasn't anything too grave..and kudos to those who spotted/addressed it.
[scorpion01] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:27:10 AM
GOOD MORNING TO ALL! HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK WORK WILL SLOW UP AND I CAN GET TO THE BOARD A LITTLE MORE OFTEN.
A FEW MORE CLOD DAYS HERE IN AND IT LOOKS LIKE A WARMING TREND WILL BEGIN. ONLY IN THE 40'S BUT FOR NOW GOOD ENOUGH.
[adrianaec_88] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:13:58 AM
Good morning everyone! we're back....
[Necroticist] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:04:18 AM
I been in england far too long..picked up bad linguistic habits....lol.
[Necroticist] Monday, February 23, 2009 7:03:03 AM
Sorry - UK slang - means 'did bloody well' [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, February 23, 2009 6:39:48 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
"Played a blinder"?? Sorry my friend, you lost me!
[Deep Freeze] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:39:48 AM
"Played a blinder"?? Sorry my friend, you lost me!
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:38:58 AM
HAPPY MONDAY TO EVERYONE......................
THANK YOU MURRAY........For taking such good care of the board!!!!!!!!!! you are awesome...........
Thank you Necro for reporting the bug..LOL
MG~
[Necroticist] Monday, February 23, 2009 6:11:47 AM
Like i said - i found the bug - reported it and Murray played a blinder, again. I missed it too - but knew he'd act - top man! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, February 23, 2009 5:34:14 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
A wonderful day to you too, Necro! Glad to see we all came out of this mess unscathed. It was curiously difficult to not be able to access the site yesterday! I had no idea how much I would miss it!!!
[Deep Freeze] Monday, February 23, 2009 5:34:14 AM
A wonderful day to you too, Necro! Glad to see we all came out of this mess unscathed. It was curiously difficult to not be able to access the site yesterday! I had no idea how much I would miss it!!!
[Necroticist] Monday, February 23, 2009 5:10:11 AM
Good day all - glad Murray was on the case so quick! Now we can all feel a little safer.
[ron h] Monday, February 23, 2009 3:00:41 AM
Good morning everyone...I'm just now able to log on...have to go to work...have a great day!!
[spapad] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:36:26 PM
By the time I tried Yahoo, the back up server was online and you got the message that the board was down pending maintenance.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:33:36 PM
Yeah, I just found that out today. I couldn't get through with Google, but could with Yahoo. Even then my virus program would warn me that the site had a virus. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:30:41 PM)
spapad wrote:
You know how sometimes it depends on what the search is through as to what you get, so I tested several search engines and Google would not even allow access to the page today. I have the site on my favs page but I wanted to see if it was related to my internet server.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. It did happen once before. I remember days when the whole website (whether its virus-related I didn't know) would be down for the whole day. Drove me nuts when I wanted to post in the Sinful thread, only to find out the site wasn't available. Hopefully it won't happen again. No way was I going to spend the rest of the day at the Q. Not too interesting IMO, save for the JP photo threads.
spapad wrote:
I got the notice from my computer on Saturday morning, strange thing, never had the site attempt to load an active X control ever, my security blocked and I chose not to run it and apparently others had problems as early as Friday night. My security on my PC is pretty solid so it did not affect my PC nor most members signing on, although I did see a report from DC that Becks was unable to post. So, somewhere around midnight Friday or maybe a little earlier.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hi, Spapad!! I came back to Davis earlier today. I'm doing pretty good. How about you? When did this virus thing happen?
spapad wrote:
Good Evening Vail! How ya doin'? Good to see you!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:30:41 PM
You know how sometimes it depends on what the search is through as to what you get, so I tested several search engines and Google would not even allow access to the page today. I have the site on my favs page but I wanted to see if it was related to my internet server. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:25:35 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. It did happen once before. I remember days when the whole website (whether its virus-related I didn't know) would be down for the whole day. Drove me nuts when I wanted to post in the Sinful thread, only to find out the site wasn't available. Hopefully it won't happen again. No way was I going to spend the rest of the day at the Q. Not too interesting IMO, save for the JP photo threads.
spapad wrote:
I got the notice from my computer on Saturday morning, strange thing, never had the site attempt to load an active X control ever, my security blocked and I chose not to run it and apparently others had problems as early as Friday night. My security on my PC is pretty solid so it did not affect my PC nor most members signing on, although I did see a report from DC that Becks was unable to post. So, somewhere around midnight Friday or maybe a little earlier.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hi, Spapad!! I came back to Davis earlier today. I'm doing pretty good. How about you? When did this virus thing happen?
spapad wrote:
Good Evening Vail! How ya doin'? Good to see you!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Head banger] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:29:28 PM
Murray Rocks!!! Edited at: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:39:07 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:25:35 PM
Hmmm...interesting. It did happen once before. I remember days when the whole website (whether its virus-related I didn't know) would be down for the whole day. Drove me nuts when I wanted to post in the Sinful thread, only to find out the site wasn't available. Hopefully it won't happen again. No way was I going to spend the rest of the day at the Q. Not too interesting IMO, save for the JP photo threads. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:20:18 PM)
spapad wrote:
I got the notice from my computer on Saturday morning, strange thing, never had the site attempt to load an active X control ever, my security blocked and I chose not to run it and apparently others had problems as early as Friday night. My security on my PC is pretty solid so it did not affect my PC nor most members signing on, although I did see a report from DC that Becks was unable to post. So, somewhere around midnight Friday or maybe a little earlier.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hi, Spapad!! I came back to Davis earlier today. I'm doing pretty good. How about you? When did this virus thing happen?
spapad wrote:
Good Evening Vail! How ya doin'? Good to see you!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:20:18 PM
I got the notice from my computer on Saturday morning, strange thing, never had the site attempt to load an active X control ever, my security blocked and I chose not to run it and apparently others had problems as early as Friday night. My security on my PC is pretty solid so it did not affect my PC nor most members signing on, although I did see a report from DC that Becks was unable to post. So, somewhere around midnight Friday or maybe a little earlier. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:14:01 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hi, Spapad!! I came back to Davis earlier today. I'm doing pretty good. How about you? When did this virus thing happen?
spapad wrote:
Good Evening Vail! How ya doin'? Good to see you!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:14:01 PM
Hi, Spapad!! I came back to Davis earlier today. I'm doing pretty good. How about you? When did this virus thing happen? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:10:21 PM)
spapad wrote:
Good Evening Vail! How ya doin'? Good to see you!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:10:21 PM
Good Evening Vail! How ya doin'? Good to see you! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:07:25 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:07:25 PM
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE VIRUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:34:35 PM
We're BACK!!! HA!!! Thank You Murray!
[ron h] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:32:02 AM
I'm not much of a wine drinker myself, but it was a nice compliment when I had it...I couldn't tell you one wine from the next... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:27:50 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
That's the beauty of grilling crab legs, there is nothing to it! As for wine, well...I do not drink but I would imagine some kind of white wine would be appropriate, no? Seafood and all...
ronhartsell wrote:
Thanks Freeze, you've given me an idea for Memorial Day weekend...I will have to do a practice run first, so I'll be drawing on your expertise when that time comes...nothing worse than having guests when you're cooking something for the first time...tools...that's what I'm gonna need for everyone...and a wine recommendation...
Deep Freeze wrote:
You do not "turn it". You simply wrap it loosely in the foil as I mentioned and you put it on the grill. Close the lid and leave it for about ten minutes. (All crab is pre-cooked) That is it!!!
ronhartsell wrote:
So, how do I know when to turn it or when it is done??...
Deep Freeze wrote:
It tastes INCREDIBLE, my friend!! I made 40 pounds of it once when we were on vacation in Calif!!!!!! It is not too much different from steaming. You simply wrap three or four legs in foil along with a few lemon slices, several pats of butter and garlic salt. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!! It is best to put the on "indirect" heat but the smoky goodness is there!!
ronhartsell wrote:
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make...
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:27:50 AM
That's the beauty of grilling crab legs, there is nothing to it! As for wine, well...I do not drink but I would imagine some kind of white wine would be appropriate, no? Seafood and all... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:21:02 AM)
ronhartsell wrote:
Thanks Freeze, you've given me an idea for Memorial Day weekend...I will have to do a practice run first, so I'll be drawing on your expertise when that time comes...nothing worse than having guests when you're cooking something for the first time...tools...that's what I'm gonna need for everyone...and a wine recommendation...
Deep Freeze wrote:
You do not "turn it". You simply wrap it loosely in the foil as I mentioned and you put it on the grill. Close the lid and leave it for about ten minutes. (All crab is pre-cooked) That is it!!!
ronhartsell wrote:
So, how do I know when to turn it or when it is done??...
Deep Freeze wrote:
It tastes INCREDIBLE, my friend!! I made 40 pounds of it once when we were on vacation in Calif!!!!!! It is not too much different from steaming. You simply wrap three or four legs in foil along with a few lemon slices, several pats of butter and garlic salt. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!! It is best to put the on "indirect" heat but the smoky goodness is there!!
ronhartsell wrote:
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make...
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[Head banger] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:27:11 AM
ideal beach food arent they. you can rake up the shells into the fire, and any you miss, the gulls can clean up. sadly, long way from a beach or decent crab. pre cooked frozen is all I can find. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:20:46 AM)
ronhartsell wrote:
Morning DF...I think Crabs and Lobsters are some of the ugliest edibles I've ever laid eyes on...I didn't even try King Crab for the first time 'til about a year ago...the meat was really tasty, but the effort that went in and the menacing carcass's (?) strewn about didn't leave me begging for more...the wine served was a suprising complement to the meal...
Deep Freeze wrote:
Try as I might, I just cannot picture our dear Guido throwing live crabs into a pot and boiling them!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, he may gently warm the water and allow them to have a nice, relaxing spa before toweling them off, serving champagne and then building a three story luxury condo for them to spend their remaining days in relative comfort..... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
[ron h] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:21:02 AM
Thanks Freeze, you've given me an idea for Memorial Day weekend...I will have to do a practice run first, so I'll be drawing on your expertise when that time comes...nothing worse than having guests when you're cooking something for the first time...tools...that's what I'm gonna need for everyone...and a wine recommendation... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:14:23 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
You do not "turn it". You simply wrap it loosely in the foil as I mentioned and you put it on the grill. Close the lid and leave it for about ten minutes. (All crab is pre-cooked) That is it!!!
ronhartsell wrote:
So, how do I know when to turn it or when it is done??...
Deep Freeze wrote:
It tastes INCREDIBLE, my friend!! I made 40 pounds of it once when we were on vacation in Calif!!!!!! It is not too much different from steaming. You simply wrap three or four legs in foil along with a few lemon slices, several pats of butter and garlic salt. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!! It is best to put the on "indirect" heat but the smoky goodness is there!!
ronhartsell wrote:
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make...
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:14:23 AM
You do not "turn it". You simply wrap it loosely in the foil as I mentioned and you put it on the grill. Close the lid and leave it for about ten minutes. (All crab is pre-cooked) That is it!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:10:08 AM)
ronhartsell wrote:
So, how do I know when to turn it or when it is done??...
Deep Freeze wrote:
It tastes INCREDIBLE, my friend!! I made 40 pounds of it once when we were on vacation in Calif!!!!!! It is not too much different from steaming. You simply wrap three or four legs in foil along with a few lemon slices, several pats of butter and garlic salt. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!! It is best to put the on "indirect" heat but the smoky goodness is there!!
ronhartsell wrote:
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make...
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[ron h] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:11:08 AM
Nice chatting with you Bev...have a great day!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:04:21 AM)
Bev wrote:
Well, it's been a beautiful day here so far. Woke up to a brisk 37F, went grocery shopping, did some laundry, and now the sun is out and there is not a cloud in the sky ... Thanks for the good energy!
I'm going to spend some time outdoors. I was invited to funeral services for a professor who passed away Thursday Think my energy will work best, if I send it from one of my special places by the ocean.
Have a great Sunday, JP.com!
[ron h] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:10:08 AM
So, how do I know when to turn it or when it is done??... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:54:45 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
It tastes INCREDIBLE, my friend!! I made 40 pounds of it once when we were on vacation in Calif!!!!!! It is not too much different from steaming. You simply wrap three or four legs in foil along with a few lemon slices, several pats of butter and garlic salt. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!! It is best to put the on "indirect" heat but the smoky goodness is there!!
ronhartsell wrote:
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make...
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[Bev] Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:04:21 AM
Well, it's been a beautiful day here so far. Woke up to a brisk 37F, went grocery shopping, did some laundry, and now the sun is out and there is not a cloud in the sky ... Thanks for the good energy!
I'm going to spend some time outdoors. I was invited to funeral services for a professor who passed away Thursday Think my energy will work best, if I send it from one of my special places by the ocean.
Have a great Sunday, JP.com!
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:54:45 AM
It tastes INCREDIBLE, my friend!! I made 40 pounds of it once when we were on vacation in Calif!!!!!! It is not too much different from steaming. You simply wrap three or four legs in foil along with a few lemon slices, several pats of butter and garlic salt. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!! It is best to put the on "indirect" heat but the smoky goodness is there!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:41:36 AM)
ronhartsell wrote:
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make...
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[ron h] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:41:36 AM
The smell doesn't bother me at all...although I cook on the grill, I've never grilled crab before...how different does it taste compared to steaming it??...for me, it's all about the effort that goes into getting to the meat, and we're all meat lovers over here, so we're talking a lot of crab to make... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:29:47 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:29:47 AM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah Bev, you know what I mean!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
You know Ron, crab is one of my all time favorites. I just love it. I try to do King Crab once a month or so. The Princess does not like the smell so I tend to cook it in the summer when I can simply put it out on the grill. I also try to cut the lower part of the shell open, along the leg, prior to cooking it. That way, it is considerably easier to get at when it is done!!
[ron h] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:20:46 AM
Morning DF...I think Crabs and Lobsters are some of the ugliest edibles I've ever laid eyes on...I didn't even try King Crab for the first time 'til about a year ago...the meat was really tasty, but the effort that went in and the menacing carcass's (?) strewn about didn't leave me begging for more...the wine served was a suprising complement to the meal... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:15:52 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Try as I might, I just cannot picture our dear Guido throwing live crabs into a pot and boiling them!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, he may gently warm the water and allow them to have a nice, relaxing spa before toweling them off, serving champagne and then building a three story luxury condo for them to spend their remaining days in relative comfort..... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
[Bev] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:19:48 AM
cider / malt vineagar sounds like proper condiments to serve w/ fish & chips ; ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:16 PM)
spapad wrote:
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
Try as I might, I just cannot picture our dear Guido throwing live crabs into a pot and boiling them!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, he may gently warm the water and allow them to have a nice, relaxing spa before toweling them off, serving champagne and then building a three story luxury condo for them to spend their remaining days in relative comfort..... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:15:52 AM
Try as I might, I just cannot picture our dear Guido throwing live crabs into a pot and boiling them!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, he may gently warm the water and allow them to have a nice, relaxing spa before toweling them off, serving champagne and then building a three story luxury condo for them to spend their remaining days in relative comfort..... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:16 PM)
spapad wrote:
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:20:52 PM
sounds good to me. the butter often seems like overkill. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:16 PM)
spapad wrote:
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:16:51 PM
best thing he has done all year. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:45:31 PM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
LEAFS LOSE,COURTESY OF SUNDIN IN THE SHOOTOUT...OUCH!
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL.. My puter blocked it before it could do anything....
Soy........ Iam watching Toronto... LOL Go Leafs!!!!!!
MG~
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AVG,PBA,CBC,CTV....NORTON HEARS A WHO...SPY BLOCKER,SHMY BLOCKER....I CAN STILL SEE YOU!...
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL... Yeah I have like 3 diff programs.. avg, norton, and one through windows.. Plus a spy blocker now, and a phising scam one... lol...
HUgs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:45:31 PM
LEAFS LOSE,COURTESY OF SUNDIN IN THE SHOOTOUT...OUCH! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:58:16 PM)
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL.. My puter blocked it before it could do anything....
Soy........ Iam watching Toronto... LOL Go Leafs!!!!!!
MG~
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AVG,PBA,CBC,CTV....NORTON HEARS A WHO...SPY BLOCKER,SHMY BLOCKER....I CAN STILL SEE YOU!...
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL... Yeah I have like 3 diff programs.. avg, norton, and one through windows.. Plus a spy blocker now, and a phising scam one... lol...
HUgs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:58:16 PM
LOL.. My puter blocked it before it could do anything....
Soy........ Iam watching Toronto... LOL Go Leafs!!!!!!
AVG,PBA,CBC,CTV....NORTON HEARS A WHO...SPY BLOCKER,SHMY BLOCKER....I CAN STILL SEE YOU!...
MG_Metalgoddess wrote:
LOL... Yeah I have like 3 diff programs.. avg, norton, and one through windows.. Plus a spy blocker now, and a phising scam one... lol...
HUgs MG~
Necroticist wrote:
As long as u all safe = am happy...i use avast! anti virus, but spybot 1.6.2. picked this one up. sly lil programme...
[scorpion01] Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:50:25 PM
GOODEVENING EVERYONE. BEAUTIFUL DAY HERE IN NEW YORK. SPENT THE DAY SKATING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY DAUGHTER. GETTING READY TO SETTLE DOWN TO A HOCKEY GAME.
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:16 PM
OK, crab cooking 101 for all you food network freaks. Get a of bussel of live crabs. Get a very large pot with a cage that does not hit the bottom of said pot but is suspended bout 4 inches from the bottom. Pour alot water and beer in the bottom of the pot to come up to about 7 inches. Put as many crabs as you can without over crowding into said pot. Shower the fellas in a rain of Old Bay seasoning. Cover with a lid and then turn on the gas. When they stop bagging about wait about a minute or two more and your done.
Next roll butcher paper out on the table, give everyone their crushing implement of choice, take the crabs and put them on the table. and have plenty of buckets around for the shells. Ok for you foodie types who think clarified butter is all that goes with crab enjoy. Give me a good cider or malt vinegar to dip my crab meat in (eastern Va style) and I am a happy little crab picker! Note to the novice, when cracking the body, do not forget to remove the "dead man's lungs" as they are NOT "good eatin"!
I'm ready for a bushel! Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:12:39 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:50 PM Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:15:40 PM
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:50:03 PM
what about slow poached in the oven, in a pan of clarified butter infused with some herbs? easy no, but sounds damn good.,
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:45:21 PM
"You know, I'm getting input here that I'm reading as relatively hostile."
Thank YOU, Spa for reading over my typos. After all, it is cooking, not spelling. I'll (ahem) let you know how it (bwwwaaahaa) comes out! LOL!!!!!
Head banger wrote:
fool!!
guidogodoy wrote:
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:39:49 PM
me hostile? yeah, probably.
you sound like your ordering in a chinese resturant. I dont like it bakd personaly. too dry. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:16:17 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"You know, I'm getting input here that I'm reading as relatively hostile."
Thank YOU, Spa for reading over my typos. After all, it is cooking, not spelling. I'll (ahem) let you know how it (bwwwaaahaa) comes out! LOL!!!!!
Head banger wrote:
fool!!
guidogodoy wrote:
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[hellrider 31038] Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:33:57 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:16:17 PM
"You know, I'm getting input here that I'm reading as relatively hostile."
Thank YOU, Spa for reading over my typos. After all, it is cooking, not spelling. I'll (ahem) let you know how it (bwwwaaahaa) comes out! LOL!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:38:22 PM)
Head banger wrote:
fool!!
guidogodoy wrote:
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:57:27 PM
Just returned from my introduction to Wii. It's official, I can bowl pretty good and play baseball ok but I suck at golf! I did pretty damn good in boxing though!
Crap? Your eating crap? My suggestion is you sprinkle a good bit of Old Bay on it, steam it with beer in the water, and when the craps stop banging on the lid they are done! Perhaps you would like to wear a bib and maybe a clothespin on your nose for such an ocassion? Enjoy! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:45:02 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:59:39 PM
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:38:22 PM
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap?
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:45:02 PM
M'kay. Can anyone give me a good suggestion for cooking king crap? I LOVE crap. I eat it all the time. Sometimes it is steamed crap sometimes baked. I don't really like boiled crap as it sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Too watery. Bleah!
I am serious about this one as it is on the menu tonight. Who has any suggestions as to how to cook crap? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:33:44 PM)
Head banger wrote:
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads....
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:33:44 PM
its cooking, not spelling.
windows has asked me to defrag the drive on my antique, but... I only have 5% free space, which wont do. so, no defrag for it.
this machine asked me to download IE 8 beta today. didnt of course. IE 7 seems fine, and its a work machine, no unauth downloads.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Becks] Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:04:03 PM
HIya everyone sunday morning here almost the end of another week.
Argh I know nothing about computers other than I'm doing a virus scan right now LOL!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:54:29 PM
In reference to you, if you didn't notice! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:52:41 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
You said "floppy"....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I save only porn clips..................
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:52:41 PM
You said "floppy"....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:19:52 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I save only porn clips..................
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:24:38 PM
OK, OK, I'm using achaic computer language, I mean CD, DVRs etc... Just like I cant quit saying album. LOL
She about had a fit when she first put her game in the game said it did not recognize it. She was on the edge of a meltdown when I just took out the disc and turned it around. Viola! Games! OMG, the joys of a tween. HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:19:52 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Deep Freeze wrote:
I save only porn clips..................
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:19:52 PM
Ah, no big deal for you then. You only have about 10 seconds of footage of the "hedgehog" in action. Got any of those 5 1/4 floppies around? BWAWAHAAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
Good move by Flora, Spa. I actually like that system over the lame / static Xbox (does everything a PC can do but....um, you can't change with technology) or a PS3. Despite what they seem to claim, all are computers. Nintendo is the only one to offer something different in their controller system. A BIG plus in my book.
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:12:02 PM
I have been comtemplating a back up hard drive. As for the thing I would miss the most, that's easy,.........my pictures. I try to copy them to disk often bacause if this machine died tomorrow all those memories would be gone with it, sort of like your house catching on fire on a very small scale. But I think pictures would be the thing most people would hate to loose.
Flora finally went and spent her Christmas/B-day money today. She decided she wanted to get a Wii. I would have never have been able to hold on to that cash and think wisely about what I wanted to spend it on when I was a kid, god no, that money would have been spent on everthing and anything. Now, she has a new gaming system and she found out it will play her old X-box games too, so she is super pleased with her investment. Smart kid!
BTW, Smith Rocks! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:11:47 PM
I save only porn clips.................. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!"
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!" [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:46:24 PM)
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:46:24 PM
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:41:17 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:41:17 PM
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08:41 PM)
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:32:35 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:30:05 PM)
a small mechanical device, as a knob or switch, esp. one whose name is not known or cannot be recalled; gadget: a row of widgets on the instrument panel.
a small mechanical device, as a knob or switch, esp. one whose name is not known or cannot be recalled; gadget: a row of widgets on the instrument panel.
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:26:55 PM
WIDGETS!!!! Bring me WIDGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:24:16 PM
Yes, best keep that to yourself,........I wouldn't wanna get you started on the whirlybits! HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:19:53 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Of course! I also have a doohickey and a whatchamacallit......but I don't think we should discuss that in public. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy!(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:19:53 PM
Of course! I also have a doohickey and a whatchamacallit......but I don't think we should discuss that in public. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:12:55 PM)
spapad wrote:
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy!(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:12:55 PM
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08:41 PM
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM)
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:57:29 PM
LMAO!! Don't tell me there's a Guidopedia now! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by adrianaec_88 from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer.....
[adrianaec_88] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM
Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer.....
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:47:21 PM
Kindly direct all tech problem questions to our newly created "computer problems" thread (where they will be summarily ignored! HAAAA!).
As for working on your computer, you'd laugh if you saw me now. I have three in front of me from pseudo-friends (ie. colleagues) who all need rebuilds of one type or another. I gotta learn to start charging. Then again, I have been saying THAT since I was a kid! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for???????????
guidogodoy wrote:
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM
So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for??????????? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[_strat_] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:51 PM
That would be "Geek"... Not "Greek". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM
..U continually amaze me....not listening tho..son says different..sorry... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
you rule guido... I haven't seen plate quemada..... I think Ricardo Darín acts in it too
we're back....
Think my energy will work best, if I send it from one of my special places by the ocean.
sunday morning here almost the end of another week.
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