Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that's what you meant, I was just putting my opinion forward [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, April 12, 2010 5:27:25 AM)
Head banger wrote:
I am not saying forget it, I am saying acknowledge, learn from and move on. forgetting would be a huge mistake, but at some point we have to say that we cant fix it, sorry for the actions years ago wont work and move on.
Becks wrote:
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that.
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Deep Freeze] Monday, April 12, 2010 6:03:21 AM
I was really trying to come to grips with an appropriate response to all of this. It's very difficult for me. To begin with, I really LIKE Craig. He's a good egg. I am not all that sure he is a "racist". He has an opinion, however misguided it may be.
I am old enough to remember the Watts Riots as well. I lived through the Civil Rights Movement of the 60's and I remember it. I have often said that I am not an "oppressed" black man so it is really beyond me to try to think as one. I have never been denied anything due to my color. I do not know what it is like to live in such a manner. Having acknowledged all of this, I must say that I agree with Guido completely. To paint all people of color with the same brush by suggesting that they are violent by nature is simply ignorant.
The environment in which one lives has much to do with one's behavior. There are good and bad in all peoples. In all countries. I have never been to Africa, Somalia, the Congo or any other "black" country. I have NO idea what life is like there. I do know that people are people and things like slavery were not invented by white people. Man has enslaved his brother since time began. It is sickening and sad and a blemish on ALL humankind. I also know that I, personally, have never owned another person (black or otherwise). Neither did my father, grandfather or great grandfather. I am fairly confident that I had NOTHING to do with oppressing blacks and, therefore, I feel no particular guilt nor debt to them. They are just people like me.
We cannot change what was. We can only make our little part of "now" as good as it can be. We also cannot change what others do. There are scum among us and it will always be so. Murderers, rapists, child molestors, Brian Evans impostors, etc. They are the filth of the world and will be here long after we have gone.
[Head banger] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:31:37 AM
Hate is easy but wrong. to do the right thing is always harder on both sides. thats why its rare. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Monday, April 12, 2010 1:15:26 AM)
joedraper wrote:
The last thing I wanted to do with this discussion was turn it around into hate speach. The reason things are like they are today is very much due to hatred and intolerance of each other. The black people in our country did have a shit deal for many, many years before I was even born. What I am going on about now is how after the democratic voting took place and apartheid was abolished in 1990, things have gotten worse. We live in an overpopulated world with imorral fat cats in leadership positions. Our current president was charged with corruption and rape (found not guilty), has multi wives and has just fathered his 20th child in a poverty stricken country? He (andf Julias) live in the lap of luxury while so many otheres starve.
If these so called leaders would not let gread and their own hedonism go into overdrive, there would be enough food/clothing/housing for so many more. Education is power but they make it impossible for lower class peoole to attend school while they go on shopping trips to Dubai and drive cars that are in the million rands price range (why?)
I am one of the lucky ones I guess, I have a nice home, food and can educate my children. Not many can say the same. I just wish that like Spa said earlier, people would stop focusing on past events and move the hell on. We have the potential to be so much more. Killing just because you don't like someone's skin colour will never be right.. on either side of the spectrum. I'm not hateful toward any race, I just feel very threatened being a white female in this country where we are on the brink of a race war because of ignorant people in power singing songs to starving black people validating the murder and rape of white people.
That is what I was on about!
Please to anyone reading this. It was never about hate!
The last thing I want to be portrayed as is something I haved fought against my entire life here.. a racist.. I am certainly not a racist and I despise racists.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:27:25 AM
I am not saying forget it, I am saying acknowledge, learn from and move on. forgetting would be a huge mistake, but at some point we have to say that we cant fix it, sorry for the actions years ago wont work and move on. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:13:15 PM)
Becks wrote:
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that.
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Budred] Monday, April 12, 2010 5:02:55 AM
Remember my post about intolerance. This is exactly what I was talking about. I feel so bad about Joe's situation
and I so commend her for her last post. To endure what she has to and still speak out against racism shows what kind of person she is. I have nothing but respect for her. I so wish the world could follow. I can't pray but I hope and
wish nothing but the best for Joe and her family. Show support all, she deserves it. Peace!
I do feel for Joe and her situation and being forced to leave a home that she belongs to is injust. But Mr. Craig's post was not about that. He took this conversation and used it to his own means of hate speech. That is pathetic. There are many reasons for what has happened over the years in America and in other countries, but sadly it all comes down to hate being taught to a generation of beings, and passed along down the line. This is the poison that will kill us all.
jimmyjames wrote:
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[joedraper] Monday, April 12, 2010 1:15:26 AM
The last thing I wanted to do with this discussion was turn it around into hate speach. The reason things are like they are today is very much due to hatred and intolerance of each other. The black people in our country did have a shit deal for many, many years before I was even born. What I am going on about now is how after the democratic voting took place and apartheid was abolished in 1990, things have gotten worse. We live in an overpopulated world with imorral fat cats in leadership positions. Our current president was charged with corruption and rape (found not guilty), has multi wives and has just fathered his 20th child in a poverty stricken country? He (andf Julias) live in the lap of luxury while so many otheres starve.
If these so called leaders would not let gread and their own hedonism go into overdrive, there would be enough food/clothing/housing for so many more. Education is power but they make it impossible for lower class peoole to attend school while they go on shopping trips to Dubai and drive cars that are in the million rands price range (why?)
I am one of the lucky ones I guess, I have a nice home, food and can educate my children. Not many can say the same. I just wish that like Spa said earlier, people would stop focusing on past events and move the hell on. We have the potential to be so much more. Killing just because you don't like someone's skin colour will never be right.. on either side of the spectrum. I'm not hateful toward any race, I just feel very threatened being a white female in this country where we are on the brink of a race war because of ignorant people in power singing songs to starving black people validating the murder and rape of white people.
That is what I was on about!
Please to anyone reading this. It was never about hate!
The last thing I want to be portrayed as is something I haved fought against my entire life here.. a racist.. I am certainly not a racist and I despise racists.
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:13:15 PM
Personally, I think that the past should absolutely be acknowledged and not forgotten. But in order to move forward, we can't live in the past. It holds us back from any sort of progress. But I know it's much much more complicated than that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:03:34 PM)
Head banger wrote:
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:03:34 PM
The thing is, there has been mistreatment in the past, but how do you make up for that today? afirmitive action? reverse racism? give money? what realy needs to happen is everyone to move on. wont happen though. lots use past wrongs as an excuse.
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:39:36 PM
Totally agree Spa. Hate speech is how all sorts of problems start. Look at Mein Kampf. I have zero tolerance for hateful people who spout racist/facist/nasty bullshit. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:56:03 PM)
spapad wrote:
Your post is offensive. Giving hate speech an outlet anywhere in this world should not be tolorated.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[spapad] Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:55:00 PM
I do feel for Joe and her situation and being forced to leave a home that she belongs to is injust. But Mr. Craig's post was not about that. He took this conversation and used it to his own means of hate speech. That is pathetic. There are many reasons for what has happened over the years in America and in other countries, but sadly it all comes down to hate being taught to a generation of beings, and passed along down the line. This is the poison that will kill us all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:40:22 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:19:22 PM
Dude, if you know your history, there were also MASSIVE race riots in Detroit in 1967. It spread out to other poor cities in Michigan and most of it was, IMO, the direct result of many years of white on black oppression. Like you, I cannot fathom what is going on in another country (especially S. Africa at the moment) but I can speak about what I know.
I also lived through the time Craig described in his little hate speech. Sorry, I don't think it anything BUT a hate speech. Pay close attention to the video. Many went to the aid of the white people being attacked. It was described again and again in the news about how certain "people of color" went out to do the right thing and defend their fellow Man irrespective of their color.
Craig seems to step over a little white problem called SLAVERY. Segregation followed for years and, still, he blames blacks (not just African-Americans as many ARE Africans) as having some sort of "hate gene." Sorry, don't buy it nor do I like such racist remarks and, yes, they couldn't be more racist.
I do agree, as I have said, that there is nothing I could imagine to even begin to understand the problems of South Africa. Of course it is worse than the race riots here. Then again, go back not too many years and the KKK was alive and well doing everything and anything they wanted to the blacks in this country.
Hatred is not an innate trait to ANY culture / race / religion in my humble opinion. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:40:22 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:40:22 PM
Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.
The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.
[spapad] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:56:03 PM
Your post is offensive. Giving hate speech an outlet anywhere in this world should not be tolorated. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:54:52 PM
now of course it wont work, but it would be a great idea. should requre all to have a licence to procreate also
Ron, your exactly right. we need to find the good in all and eliminate the bad in all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:43:56 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Best idea I've heard so far.
Head banger wrote:
here's an idea for you all. I know it wont work, and cant be done, but what about requiring only mixed race children. soon everyone would be the same, and the birthrate would drop, saving the planet from overpopulation.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[ron h] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:44:39 PM
I couldn't disagree with your post more. You can talk about specific incidents that cover all races and religions for both the good and the bad all day long and the bottom line is that there's good and bad in all. How we deal with it is what makes the difference.
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
here's an idea for you all. I know it wont work, and cant be done, but what about requiring only mixed race children. soon everyone would be the same, and the birthrate would drop, saving the planet from overpopulation.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:39:34 PM
here's an idea for you all. I know it wont work, and cant be done, but what about requiring only mixed race children. soon everyone would be the same, and the birthrate would drop, saving the planet from overpopulation. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:20:52 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:20:52 PM
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:14:48 PM
I don't think that's a very fair statement. It doesn't matter about the colour of someones skin - all it takes is for a despot to say the right things and they then have people eating out of their hands, so to speak. Look at Romania. Ceaucescu was white, and he well and truely fucked that country. It's been 21 years since the fall of the iron curtain and Romania has still not recovered. It may never recover from how much he screwed them over. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:58:58 AM
I dont know if generalizations like that work, but I do know that our liberals have got the wrong idea on solving the problem. Here in the last election the main idea that the New Democratic Party had for crime reduction was to reduce the gap in incomes between rich and poor. seriously, how is taking money from bill gates and giving it to a bunch of slackers going to help? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM
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[Necroticist] Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:13:47 AM
LOL - i think Nick was a bit before ur time...we make a decent comedy act... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:51:06 AM)
joedraper wrote:
lol Ok I"ll nip out to the shops and stock up
Necroticist wrote:
Soz Joe - was miles away - will join ya in the room soon...am bringing an old friend back...lol. 'The Terrible Two' will be back in action...be prepared... (i find that incontinence knickers help ;) )
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:51:06 AM
lol Ok I"ll nip out to the shops and stock up [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:40:30 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Soz Joe - was miles away - will join ya in the room soon...am bringing an old friend back...lol. 'The Terrible Two' will be back in action...be prepared... (i find that incontinence knickers help ;) )
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:42:12 AM
Well Becks, that's the thing. Everyday I read in the papers about farm murders. The black people here are pretty much obliterating the farmers. The farm murders are 9 times out of 10 men getting shot after watching their wives and daughters raped or elderly people getting brutally murdered just because they are white and living on a farm. I found a page on facebook for the 'save or farmers' campaign. Against my better judgement I looked at some of the photos on the page and I still can't get the images out of my mind. An old man, bludgeoned to death. A women with her breasts burnt off, a baby burnt etc.. And then the blacks in the townships have this thing called necklacing.. ever heard of that?
If one of their own goes against them for whatever reason they put a tire around the victims neck and set them alight. Stand their whilst one of their own burns to death.
Population is around 49 million and white people make up barely 10% of the population. If (and I'm starting to believe in my heart that it willl) things go south.. we're pretty screwed.
I had so much hope when the first ever democratic elections took place. I was 15 and seeing it was amazing.. I have to wonder if Mandela still has his faculties at 92 years old.. Does he look at what is happening here and think to himself.. 'This is not how I envisioned it to be?'
50 murders a day? I'd say closer to 100 due to the farm attacks.
Ok I just read some stats on South Africa in an article for one of NZs newspapers, about Terreblanches murder and violence which may occur because of it in SA etc. Not saying this for any reason other than I was amazed and saddened by these stats (SAs population is about 49 million):
"The South African Police say there are 60 murders a day in the country. The Department of Home Affairs puts the figure at 83. Interpol believes the murder total in the Republic is 149 a day. That means, depending on whom you believe, that South Africa has as few as 21,000 murders a year or as many as 55,000 a year."
"Other stats. Between April 2005 and March 2006 there were in South Africa 18,500 murders, 20,500 attempted murders and 55,000 rapes. There were a quarter of a million assaults with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. Ten per cent of South Africans live with HIV/Aids - over five million people. Average life expectancy in South Africa is 50 years. Unemployment is some 25 per cent - a figure that is roughly unchanged since 1998, and that kind of rate, as we know here, is a recipe for violent disaster."
[Necroticist] Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:40:30 AM
Soz Joe - was miles away - will join ya in the room soon...am bringing an old friend back...lol. 'The Terrible Two' will be back in action...be prepared... (i find that incontinence knickers help ;) ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:09:12 AM)
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:04:14 AM
Ok I just read some stats on South Africa in an article for one of NZs newspapers, about Terreblanches murder and violence which may occur because of it in SA etc. Not saying this for any reason other than I was amazed and saddened by these stats (SAs population is about 49 million):
"The South African Police say there are 60 murders a day in the country. The Department of Home Affairs puts the figure at 83. Interpol believes the murder total in the Republic is 149 a day. That means, depending on whom you believe, that South Africa has as few as 21,000 murders a year or as many as 55,000 a year."
"Other stats. Between April 2005 and March 2006 there were in South Africa 18,500 murders, 20,500 attempted murders and 55,000 rapes. There were a quarter of a million assaults with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. Ten per cent of South Africans live with HIV/Aids - over five million people. Average life expectancy in South Africa is 50 years. Unemployment is some 25 per cent - a figure that is roughly unchanged since 1998, and that kind of rate, as we know here, is a recipe for violent disaster."
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:45:34 AM
Joe, like JJ said, you'd be more than welcome here. And yep, at the end of the day, it's just racism, not freedom. Any type of prejudice is extremely dangerous. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:58:01 PM)
joedraper wrote:
JJ..I think you've hit it straight on. I have some family living in NZ and I doubt we would be lucky enough to see 20 years before it all goes south here. Since this ET murder, all extremists are waging wars. What I don't understand is that most of our soccar/football fans here are black. Murdering a high profile white supremist here just before the soccar world cup is like shooting one self in the foot is it nott? I just don't get it. What we are having in SA right now is not freedom it is racism reversed.
jimmyjames wrote:
It's been happening since the end of apartheid, I'm sure that it's been noticed in SA since then. It's just that now it's becoming evident to the rest of the world. I'm not racist but any country with blacks in charge, I wouldn't want to live there. Corruption and killing is rife and many ( black included ) suffer and starve while the king/president lives in the lap of luxury. It's like putting a child in charge. Rhodesia is a classic example. SA will be like Rhodesia, if not worse, in 20 years I think. Joe, you'd be more than welcome down here. Most South Africans I've talked to love it, but you might prefer Aussie if you're a sun lover.
joedraper wrote:
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia.
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:31:18 AM
Wow...and people say DETROIT is dangerous. I see no comparison.
Even Brazil or México (certain parts now like Ciudad Juárez) are incredibly dangerous but it is usually petty crime or drug hits.
Sending good thoughts your way, Joe. Stay safe and do keep us posted.
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:58:01 PM
JJ..I think you've hit it straight on. I have some family living in NZ and I doubt we would be lucky enough to see 20 years before it all goes south here. Since this ET murder, all extremists are waging wars. What I don't understand is that most of our soccar/football fans here are black. Murdering a high profile white supremist here just before the soccar world cup is like shooting one self in the foot is it nott? I just don't get it. What we are having in SA right now is not freedom it is racism reversed. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:47:28 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It's been happening since the end of apartheid, I'm sure that it's been noticed in SA since then. It's just that now it's becoming evident to the rest of the world. I'm not racist but any country with blacks in charge, I wouldn't want to live there. Corruption and killing is rife and many ( black included ) suffer and starve while the king/president lives in the lap of luxury. It's like putting a child in charge. Rhodesia is a classic example. SA will be like Rhodesia, if not worse, in 20 years I think. Joe, you'd be more than welcome down here. Most South Africans I've talked to love it, but you might prefer Aussie if you're a sun lover.
joedraper wrote:
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia.
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[jimmyjames] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:47:28 PM
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[Becks] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:28:16 PM
There are many many Zimbabweans here in NZ, they fled once the killing of farmers started several years ago. I think they were given asylum as refugees.
I really hope everything works out there Joe, but it looks like a slippery slope unfortunately. I'm so sorry you feel like your home is unsafe for you now - that's not a position anyone should EVER be put in. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:25:06 PM)
joedraper wrote:
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia.
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:25:06 PM
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:20:26 PM)
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Becks] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:20:26 PM
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:43:11 PM)
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:03:27 PM
Spa, This guy who was murdered on Easter weekend was an extreme left winger (nost my kinda guy lol) but there is a dude singing hate songs containing the lyrics 'Shoot the farmer, kill the boer (boer is Afrikaans for farmer) less than a week after he is gagged from singing this song the Left Winger is hacked to death and now I hear reports that he is sodomised....They do not care that I am not a 'boer' they just want to kill all who are white. I am not so much afraid for me as I am for my two children. As you know my son is 5 and my daoughter on friday turned 3. What is in store for them? My only viable options are risk their lives or back to UK.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:54:03 PM)
spapad wrote:
My god, Joe so sorry to hear things have come to that. I would say just get up and move the hell out of there, but that would be ignorance talking. You know the climate, but still it does not look safe. Of course I'm sure you are like me if I were faced with such a change. I would want to get the hell out but it is also a matter of economics. Nothing but good thoughts to you Joe and I hope you find the proper solution for you and your family. I would be terrified to live in such a state.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[spapad] Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:54:03 PM
My god, Joe so sorry to hear things have come to that. I would say just get up and move the hell out of there, but that would be ignorance talking. You know the climate, but still it does not look safe. Of course I'm sure you are like me if I were faced with such a change. I would want to get the hell out but it is also a matter of economics. Nothing but good thoughts to you Joe and I hope you find the proper solution for you and your family. I would be terrified to live in such a state. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:43:11 PM)
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:43:11 PM
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:17:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[jimmyjames] Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:17:54 PM
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:09:12 AM)
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:09:12 AM
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Necroticist] Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:18:22 AM
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Becks] Friday, April 09, 2010 11:45:15 PM
Yawn. Go back to your cave. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic from Friday, April 09, 2010 10:02:23 PM)
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
FUCK YOU OLD SPA OLD MAID..NO MAN WANTS YOU ANYWAYSE..UR SOO PATHETHIC,THATS WHY U HANG AROUND HERE ON JP AND TRY TO GET A MAN ATTENTION..UR GOING TO STAY ALL ALONE ..LMAO..IF U THINK I CARE ABOUT WHAT U ALL ARE SAYING ABOUT ME,I DONT LISTEN TO STUPID AND RETARD PEOPLE LIKE URSELVES..UR SOO JEALOUS OF ANGELIC THATS WHY..
spapad wrote:
By far the most pathetic postings since Norman. Are you two related?? Bipolar much?
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
HERE TO STEVE AND HIS BITCH ANGELIC STORM..HAPPY FUCKING EVERYTHING..LMAO
CHAMPAGNE FOR 2..
BRAINS FOR TWO..THEY NEED IT..SOO STUPID..
TRUE BLOOD..STEVE SUPPOSE TO LIKE TO SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS FEMALE WHORES..
STEVE AND ANGELIC..ENJOY..
MYSHELLA /DEB..LMAO JUST SOO PATHETHIC..GROW UP GIRL..
FUCK YOU OLD SPA OLD MAID..NO MAN WANTS YOU ANYWAYSE..UR SOO PATHETHIC,THATS WHY U HANG AROUND HERE ON JP AND TRY TO GET A MAN ATTENTION..UR GOING TO STAY ALL ALONE ..LMAO..IF U THINK I CARE ABOUT WHAT U ALL ARE SAYING ABOUT ME,I DONT LISTEN TO STUPID AND RETARD PEOPLE LIKE URSELVES..UR SOO JEALOUS OF ANGELIC THATS WHY..
spapad wrote:
By far the most pathetic postings since Norman. Are you two related?? Bipolar much?
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
HERE TO STEVE AND HIS BITCH ANGELIC STORM..HAPPY FUCKING EVERYTHING..LMAO
CHAMPAGNE FOR 2..
BRAINS FOR TWO..THEY NEED IT..SOO STUPID..
TRUE BLOOD..STEVE SUPPOSE TO LIKE TO SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS FEMALE WHORES..
STEVE AND ANGELIC..ENJOY..
MYSHELLA /DEB..LMAO JUST SOO PATHETHIC..GROW UP GIRL..
[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 10:02:23 PM
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[spapad] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:41:20 PM
By far the most pathetic postings since Norman. Are you two related?? Bipolar much? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic from Friday, April 09, 2010 9:36:19 PM)
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
HERE TO STEVE AND HIS BITCH ANGELIC STORM..HAPPY FUCKING EVERYTHING..LMAO
CHAMPAGNE FOR 2..
BRAINS FOR TWO..THEY NEED IT..SOO STUPID..
TRUE BLOOD..STEVE SUPPOSE TO LIKE TO SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS FEMALE WHORES..
STEVE AND ANGELIC..ENJOY..
MYSHELLA /DEB..LMAO JUST SOO PATHETHIC..GROW UP GIRL..
[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:40:45 PM
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[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:36:19 PM
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[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 8:53:11 PM
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[Necroticist] Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:15:54 AM
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[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:07:35 AM
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[spapad] Monday, April 05, 2010 7:23:12 AM
Happy Birthday Koen! Hope you and the family are all doing well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Monday, April 05, 2010 2:15:34 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
mmmmm all those tasty eggs sure gonna eat some now it's my birthday moehahahahaha
Hi everyone hope everyone is doing fine
for the moment here is everything is going good
xxxxxxx gonna enjoy the kids and the family before i have to go to work
talk to you all later
