HP ISN'T THAT WHERE -40C AND -40F MEET AND ARE THE SAME TEMPERATURE?

Yeah, lots of older style and cheap apartments don't have aircon. and by cheap i mean suburban.. not exactly cheap mind you. Older houses & government houses don't. Unless you have the money to pay for and get installed you have to suffer. Lots of people have back decks or patios.. good for the afternoon breeze (if there is one)... but yes growing up i had no aircon to speak of, it was pedestal fan and spray bottle for me  The garden hose provided hours of cooling off until water restrictions came in... so i purchased some big mean looking water guns... hehehe

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		Really? That is terrible! Here in Vegas ,nearly every home has forced air. Every room is cool. I cannot imagine living without it!!      devils_child wrote: God may have created it, but man jacked up the price so us average working class cannot afford to aircondition all but one room in the house... yes i find myself sleeping on the couch at times because my matress is like a hotplate. I am very greatful to have aircon in the loungeroom, many of my friends do not have the privledge... guess who hosts all the movie nights at her house in summer?      Deep Freeze wrote: GREAT point on the sweating! I cannot sleep if I am hot. That is why God invented air conditioning, right? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      devils_child wrote: Well with a name like "Freeze" one would assue that you like snow?.... hehehe, I hear ya on the cold thing. I had lower jaw surgery resulting in 3 screws in either side of my jaw, whenever the weather gets cold my jaw is stiff and it aches. Not that i like summer however... a warm climate is nice though, I'm so sick of sweating my butt off all day, and waking up already perspiring is not my idea of comfort.      Deep Freeze wrote: It is not so much that I "fight" it as it really does hurt me. My back aches when it gets cold. Summer is a much more comfortable time of year for me these days!

I just got one of those.. Digital picture frames.. where you down load pics in them and the screen keeps changing.. It was a x-mas gift from my brother...

Now I have to figure out this gaget.... ??    Oh geesh... ( let me get out the advil now)  I have the feeling this is going to give me a Technical headache... LMAO 

Yeah... fat chance, I have to mow the lawn today... Gah! I'll have to chill a few beers for afterwards. I need to take a trip to the beach.. Went fishing on the weekend, that was good.. had a nice breeze blowing across the water. We got a storm that night, and looks like today is going to result in one as well. They're pretty spectacular... as long as nothing is damaged. We've had a few bad one's recently. 

So when you get "snow storms" do you get lightning and thunder?

		VICTIM OF METAL wrote:
		It sounds like you should be poolside with a few beers. Last night it was like 24 degrees with the wind chill factor here, and during the day mybe 31 degress? My pond and pool cover is covered in ice.      devils_child wrote: FRICKEN HOT!!!  It's not so much the heat of the sun... which mind you will fry you to a crisp in 8 minutes... it's the humidity level. I live on the North East Coast, so it's semi tropical... anyone who lives further north than here is nuts in my eyes. We had a cool change yesterday, but the humidity has come back with a vengeance today... I'm perpetually sweating.... it's gross.  I thank God we have airconditioning in our livingroom.         VICTIM OF METAL wrote: How's Australia weather this time of year? I'm on the east coast here in the states and it's very cold as of the last 24hrs..      devils_child wrote: That's awesome, My mum got me into all the good metal. I haven't forgotten all the crazy stuff my mum used to do... haha now i do the same things.. She used to have her headbanging group of friends, they used to come round with all their gear on.. I always thought they were cool. Now I have my own metal vest and wristbands etc.. They had a big influence on me.       VICTIM OF METAL wrote: Ahhh, my kids will forget the foolish things i do now,later in life.... I hope? My one daughter is totally into Bruce Dickinson, so i've got a fellow Maiden fan. I been trying to get her into some Priest. So far so good, but not like Maiden. She loves them. She has seen them live on their last tour with with the wife and myself.      devils_child wrote: It's probably because Dave and Adrian don't have many "moves".... Steve has the headbanging thing going on and the fast fingers.. .  I trade off between Glenn and K.K... then i'll do the Ian bass moves... ahaha  just have to watch the ceiling if i have my bass in hand.  That's probably what's good about being home alone when everyones at work..... I can jump all over the furniture and sing loudly..... without getting looks.      VICTIM OF METAL wrote: I'll admit it, i throw in a live dvd, if it's priest air guitar is either Glenn or K.K.. But put on Maiden, and all of a sudden i'm a bass nut?      devils_child wrote: Well I'm smiling now I've found a fellow unemployed person on the board... oh and you made me picture Steve Harris... hehehe.       VICTIM OF METAL wrote: Sounds like me without the bass playing, unless air-bass ala Steve Harris is the same,lol... At least we can still smile, for now?      devils_child wrote: I reckon... I don't even have my TV tuned in... it's all mind numbing crap. I watch dvd's if i need visual entertainment. I've been out of work for 2 and a half weeks, My study semester is over.... All i've been doing is look for work, internet, play bass, keep house tidy.. and of course listen to music.      VICTIM OF METAL wrote: I hear ya. I'm out of work too...  I had the house to myself and cranked up some Priest. Better then Springer our Maury.      devils_child wrote: Good good...... had a Priest Feast yesterday.... something like 14 hours worth of Priest.... LOL, had to do something to wither away at the hours. I'm out of work you see... so the boredem is killing me. Wish i had that cooler on my living room right now..... So how are things on your end?      VICTIM OF METAL wrote:  tasty... How ya been Devils_child?      devils_child wrote: This is my kind of water cooler......

FRICKEN HOT!!!  It's not so much the heat of the sun... which mind you will fry you to a crisp in 8 minutes... it's the humidity level. I live on the North East Coast, so it's semi tropical... anyone who lives further north than here is nuts in my eyes. We had a cool change yesterday, but the humidity has come back with a vengeance today... I'm perpetually sweating.... it's gross.  I thank God we have airconditioning in our livingroom.   

		VICTIM OF METAL wrote:
		How's Australia weather this time of year? I'm on the east coast here in the states and it's very cold as of the last 24hrs..      devils_child wrote: That's awesome, My mum got me into all the good metal. I haven't forgotten all the crazy stuff my mum used to do... haha now i do the same things.. She used to have her headbanging group of friends, they used to come round with all their gear on.. I always thought they were cool. Now I have my own metal vest and wristbands etc.. They had a big influence on me.       VICTIM OF METAL wrote: Ahhh, my kids will forget the foolish things i do now,later in life.... I hope? My one daughter is totally into Bruce Dickinson, so i've got a fellow Maiden fan. I been trying to get her into some Priest. So far so good, but not like Maiden. She loves them. She has seen them live on their last tour with with the wife and myself.      devils_child wrote: It's probably because Dave and Adrian don't have many "moves".... Steve has the headbanging thing going on and the fast fingers.. .  I trade off between Glenn and K.K... then i'll do the Ian bass moves... ahaha  just have to watch the ceiling if i have my bass in hand.  That's probably what's good about being home alone when everyones at work..... I can jump all over the furniture and sing loudly..... without getting looks.      VICTIM OF METAL wrote: I'll admit it, i throw in a live dvd, if it's priest air guitar is either Glenn or K.K.. But put on Maiden, and all of a sudden i'm a bass nut?      devils_child wrote: Well I'm smiling now I've found a fellow unemployed person on the board... oh and you made me picture Steve Harris... hehehe.       VICTIM OF METAL wrote: Sounds like me without the bass playing, unless air-bass ala Steve Harris is the same,lol... At least we can still smile, for now?      devils_child wrote: I reckon... I don't even have my TV tuned in... it's all mind numbing crap. I watch dvd's if i need visual entertainment. I've been out of work for 2 and a half weeks, My study semester is over.... All i've been doing is look for work, internet, play bass, keep house tidy.. and of course listen to music.      VICTIM OF METAL wrote: I hear ya. I'm out of work too...  I had the house to myself and cranked up some Priest. Better then Springer our Maury.      devils_child wrote: Good good...... had a Priest Feast yesterday.... something like 14 hours worth of Priest.... LOL, had to do something to wither away at the hours. I'm out of work you see... so the boredem is killing me. Wish i had that cooler on my living room right now..... So how are things on your end?      VICTIM OF METAL wrote:  tasty... How ya been Devils_child?      devils_child wrote: This is my kind of water cooler......

Well I'm smiling now I've found a fellow unemployed person on the board... oh and you made me picture Steve Harris... hehehe. 

		VICTIM OF METAL wrote:
		Sounds like me without the bass playing, unless air-bass ala Steve Harris is the same,lol... At least we can still smile, for now?      devils_child wrote: I reckon... I don't even have my TV tuned in... it's all mind numbing crap. I watch dvd's if i need visual entertainment. I've been out of work for 2 and a half weeks, My study semester is over.... All i've been doing is look for work, internet, play bass, keep house tidy.. and of course listen to music.      VICTIM OF METAL wrote: I hear ya. I'm out of work too...  I had the house to myself and cranked up some Priest. Better then Springer our Maury.      devils_child wrote: Good good...... had a Priest Feast yesterday.... something like 14 hours worth of Priest.... LOL, had to do something to wither away at the hours. I'm out of work you see... so the boredem is killing me. Wish i had that cooler on my living room right now..... So how are things on your end?      VICTIM OF METAL wrote:  tasty... How ya been Devils_child?      devils_child wrote: This is my kind of water cooler......

This is my kind of water cooler...... 

It's sad when the people you know become the people you knew, when you can walk right past someone like they were never a big part of your life, how you used to be able to talk for hours and how now you can barely look at them. Sometimes its hard to tell who has your back from who has had it long enough to just stab you in it. If that's the case then why trust anyone at all?

NICE DAY HERE TODAY...+6c, NOT BAD FOR DEC.1....OUT FOR A DRIVE AND ACTUALLY GOT TO 
SHOOT A GREAT MURDER HAPPENING WITH THE DIGITAL CAMERA!...GOT ABOUT A GOOD FIVE MINUTES OF THIS MURDER ON THE CAMERA ....IT'S A KEEPER I'LL TELL YA'...LOVE A GOOD MURDER ......OHHHH NO,NO PEOPLE!...NOT THAT KIND OF MURDER ...A MURDER OF CROWS....MUST OF BEEN A THOUSAND OR SO I FIGURE,NICE AND LOUD TOO,GOT PRETTY CLOSE....I LOVE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN THESE HUGE GATHERINGS OCCUR  ...IT FREAKS OUT SOME PEOPLE,BUT I LOVE IT.

One would think that they have freedom all year long and a great ( ! ) capitalist society where they don't feel the shortages and distress that others not so free countries face on a regular basis  
More reactions like this and I'll start thinking that they live under extreme duress all the time, having only one day  in the year where they can afford to buy stuff they need to survive like $700 flat screen tv's and $9 DVD's.

You are right about the catttle prods. That is why cops have tasers here. It's the cowboy legacy, you see....

		devils_child wrote:
		This may sound a little simple.... But I'm glad I live in Australia....   Sounds to me that Walmart employees should be given electrode cattle prods or riot gear to control the masses.....      Where AmI wrote: When Walmart made the announcement over the speakers that they were closing the store due to the death of the employee, the cattle raged about having waited for hours to do their "shopping". Can you imagine a bunch of fat bastards yelling and screaming bursting into Walmart? I have a feeling if there was a definite attempt to close down the store it would have been looted and wrecked. Stealing is what many there came to do anyway, strength in numbers. "He was bum-rushed by 200 people," said Jimmy Overby, 43, a co-worker. "They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too...I literally had to fight people off my back." Update #1, New York Times: By 4:55, with no police officers in sight, the crowd of more than 2,000 had become a rabble, and could be held back no longer. Fists banged and shoulders pressed on the sliding-glass double doors, which bowed in with the weight of the assault. Six to 10 workers inside tried to push back, but it was hopeless. Suddenly, witnesses and the police said, the doors shattered, and the shrieking mob surged through in a blind rush for holiday bargains. Update #2 from Boing Boing: Union responds and visit the website walmartcrimereport.com to review other incidents of Wal-mart not providing a safe work and shopping experience. Update #3, More Black Friday Deaths: 2 gunmen kill each other in shootout at Toys 'R' Us in Palm Desert As it is shown, consumer confidence isn't too bad in this "crisis" when they kill to enter stores and then kill each other while they're in them.

When Walmart made the announcement over the speakers that they were closing the store due to the death of the employee, the cattle raged about having waited for hours to do their "shopping". Can you imagine a bunch of fat bastards yelling and screaming bursting into Walmart? I have a feeling if there was a definite attempt to close down the store it would have been looted and wrecked. Stealing is what many there came to do anyway, strength in numbers.

"He was bum-rushed by 200 people," said Jimmy Overby, 43, a co-worker. "They took the doors off the hinges. He was trampled and killed in front of me. They took me down too...I literally had to fight people off my back."

Update #1, New York Times: By 4:55, with no police officers in sight, the crowd of more than 2,000 had become a rabble, and could be held back no longer. Fists banged and shoulders pressed on the sliding-glass double doors, which bowed in with the weight of the assault. Six to 10 workers inside tried to push back, but it was hopeless. Suddenly, witnesses and the police said, the doors shattered, and the shrieking mob surged through in a blind rush for holiday bargains.

Update #2 from Boing Boing: Union responds and visit the website walmartcrimereport.com to review other incidents of Wal-mart not providing a safe work and shopping experience.

Update #3, More Black Friday Deaths: 2 gunmen kill each other in shootout at Toys 'R' Us in Palm Desert

As it is shown, consumer confidence isn't too bad in this "crisis" when they kill to enter stores and then kill each other while they're in them.