With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:45:00 PM
No not really, most of the musical influences come from outside. The metal scene here is pretty healthy considering the size of the country population wise ( 4 million ). We have no decent metal bands of note that are doing much locally or internationally. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:30:25 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:39:11 PM
With regards to a national type of music, the closest we probably have hear would be pasific music - hip hop with pasific beats to it. That and kapa haka stuff, which is the music and singing of the indigenous people, the Maori.
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:33:39 PM
From what I've seen, there's pockets of metal fans around the place, but not really any NZ metal bands or major metal scene around unfortunately - the best hard rock type band NZ has produced is a band called Shihad (their early stuff anyway, the General Electric is one album which was pretty good). There is a thrashy type band here called 8 Foot Sativa but I think they suck lol. Also some people may consider a band called Blindspott (sp?) metal, but I don't really think so, not much of a fan of them either. We do have what people call bogans here, I've been called one before cos I selected some metal to play on a jukebox at a function LOL! The music you see around the most is hip hop, which I personally can't stand. I always smile when I see kids walking around wearing a Motorhead, Iron Maiden, or any other classic metal band shirt - going a bit against the grain of what is popular here, keeping the heavy metal faith.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:30:25 PM
No harm taken.....do you have a national music, though? Spain = flamenco, for example.
I am really curious. I knew a few people from NZ who were great but didn't have a single Metal band to mention to me. Thus, my only reference. Any national favs or Metal nationals would be most appreciated. I mean, you'd have to go to Portugal to understand fado music. It is beautiful. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around.
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:31:51 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:26:38 PM
From what I've seen, there's pockets of metal fans around the place, but not really any NZ metal bands or major metal scene around unfortunately - the best hard rock type band NZ has produced is a band called Shihad (their early stuff anyway, the General Electric is one album which was pretty good). There is a thrashy type band here called 8 Foot Sativa but I think they suck lol. Also some people may consider a band called Blindspott (sp?) metal, but I don't really think so, not much of a fan of them either. We do have what people call bogans here, I've been called one before cos I selected some metal to play on a jukebox at a function LOL! The music you see around the most is hip hop, which I personally can't stand. I always smile when I see kids walking around wearing a Motorhead, Iron Maiden, or any other classic metal band shirt - going a bit against the grain of what is popular here, keeping the heavy metal faith. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18:57 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:20:57 PM
The music scene in NZ is pathetic. I understood what you were getting at before and I wasn't criticizing, just messing around. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18:57 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands.
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18:57 PM
I'd actually hope that you chime in here, Becks. Let me say that I don't mean to disrespect ANY country (heck, I travel too much to do such a thing), but am I right iin my assertion that there isn't much of a metal scene in NZ? If I am wrong, please turn me on to some bands. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:58:42 PM)
Becks wrote:
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible.
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[kickstand1968] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:12:21 PM
Unleashed in the East....so spot on awesome. The ripper, victim of changes live...nothing better!
[Becks] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:58:42 PM
It was cancelled due to logistics, JJ. It was going to cost too much to freight everything here for one show at the time, which was in the middle of the recession or whatever you want to call it.
I still hope Priest get here one day, I'll be forking out for the best tickets possible. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:49:03 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:06:37 PM
You know it is one of mine too. Cheers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:00:29 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Oh yes. No clone here! Can't do what he does, anyway! Always try to do the song in MY style. This is one of my favorites, honestly.
guidogodoy wrote:
Oh, I am THERE!
JAWBREAKERRRRRRRRRRRR (notice the emphasis you put on the last lines as opposed to Halford. Both are great!).
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I would be better served to just use it for you alone? Gramps is no longer around to accept "return items".... And since we have strayed WAAAAAAAAAAY off topic, allow me;
Give it back to him. Only people like me still know to what it used to refer. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
AmMending????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, I got that term from my late grandfather. While I do understand that it is used incorrectly in the strictest sense, I should think the idea was properly conveyed! HAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were ammending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:35:42 AM
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:00:29 PM
Oh yes. No clone here! Can't do what he does, anyway! Always try to do the song in MY style. This is one of my favorites, honestly. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:55:58 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Oh, I am THERE!
JAWBREAKERRRRRRRRRRRR (notice the emphasis you put on the last lines as opposed to Halford. Both are great!).
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I would be better served to just use it for you alone? Gramps is no longer around to accept "return items".... And since we have strayed WAAAAAAAAAAY off topic, allow me;
Give it back to him. Only people like me still know to what it used to refer. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
AmMending????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, I got that term from my late grandfather. While I do understand that it is used incorrectly in the strictest sense, I should think the idea was properly conveyed! HAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were ammending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:35:42 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:55:58 AM
Oh, I am THERE!
JAWBREAKERRRRRRRRRRRR (notice the emphasis you put on the last lines as opposed to Halford. Both are great!). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:47:27 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I would be better served to just use it for you alone? Gramps is no longer around to accept "return items".... And since we have strayed WAAAAAAAAAAY off topic, allow me;
Give it back to him. Only people like me still know to what it used to refer. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
AmMending????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, I got that term from my late grandfather. While I do understand that it is used incorrectly in the strictest sense, I should think the idea was properly conveyed! HAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were ammending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
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Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:47:27 AM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I would be better served to just use it for you alone? Gramps is no longer around to accept "return items".... And since we have strayed WAAAAAAAAAAY off topic, allow me;
Give it back to him. Only people like me still know to what it used to refer. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
AmMending????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, I got that term from my late grandfather. While I do understand that it is used incorrectly in the strictest sense, I should think the idea was properly conveyed! HAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were ammending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
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Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:35:42 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:44:29 AM
Give it back to him. Only people like me still know to what it used to refer. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:34:18 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
AmMending????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, I got that term from my late grandfather. While I do understand that it is used incorrectly in the strictest sense, I should think the idea was properly conveyed! HAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were ammending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
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Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:35:42 AM
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:34:18 AM
AmMending????? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, I got that term from my late grandfather. While I do understand that it is used incorrectly in the strictest sense, I should think the idea was properly conveyed! HAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were ammending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
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Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:35:42 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27:51 AM
Ummm....I believe you should check your Webster's. A "constitutional" rarely means dropping off little brown babies at the pool. It is more commenly used in the terms of an "airing, walk, turn, stroll." Perhaps you were amending the Constitutiion?
It must honestly suck to get old. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:01:21 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
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Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
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[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:01:21 AM
Hmm...I suppose country would be quite appropriate when one is "dropping a deuce".... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:57:51 AM
"Constitutional," eh? That yer high falutin' way of sayin' that you was stumblin' 'round the house wit yer walker? Best be a wearin' yer "I've fallen and can't get up" necklace.
Watcha'll listen to when you does that anyhoo? Charlie Daniels? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed!
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:58:56 AM
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:55:55 AM
........"took a powder, get it? A powder.." HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:50:40 AM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll have you know I delayed ONLY because I was in the midst of my morning "constitutional".....HAAAAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!! Pff!! "Addled" indeed! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:47:01 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it.
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:47:01 AM
Backread.....fixed it long before your addled brain caught it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:44:55 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:44:55 AM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we also discuss the sentence, " Just shows what I and Freeze are saying.." ?? HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!
You chimney guys are a hilarious lot.....
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46:18 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:40:08 AM
Yeah, I was going to mention that one too but decided to lay off your poor old feeble soul! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:38:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:38:19 AM
Yes, yes. I know!! Typing too fast again, I'm afraid. I also missed the "g" in amongst! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:20:05 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what I and Freeze are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazillian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:20:05 AM
"Not conjecture NOR opinion" (negatives....bwwwahaaahahahahaaaa!!!!!)
Notice I did not put Kid Rock in my first listing of my musical tastes? I only threw that one video up there by Kid because it illustrates my point of the previous ones. Melding rap and metal / rock. Run-DMC and Aerosmith were amongst the first to do it but what is Kid doing there? Rap? Rock? Metal? Just shows what Freeze and I are saying. How can you NOT be influenced by your surroundings especially during your formative years? Ever think you can get Samba music out of a Brazilian? The Mexican corrida or mariachi? The Portuguese fado?
I also know nothing about the NZ music scene. Nonetheless, I would argue that Detroit holds Metal to greater esteem as do many of the northern US states and Canada. I'd bet my life on it.
Freeze...NO country music? Not even Charlie Daniels? LOL!!!!!!
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:43:41 AM
[Head banger] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:58:40 AM
change your name to mohamed, claim that the world hates you, give away all your money, and plan to be on welfare, your in. if you have plans of getting a job dont bother. what parts of canada have you been to? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:26:52 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I've never been to America, much of less Detroit. Closest I've been is Canada. I would like to go there if they ever start letting people back in.
guidogodoy wrote:
With a statement like that, it is obvious you have never been to Detroit.
BTW. I like Diana and the Jackson 5, Run DMC, the Beastie Boys and even some M&M. Go rent the movie Gran Torino. That church is at the corner of my house. Come to my neighborhood someday and perhaps you'll understand. It is not uncommon to have real old-school Motown mixed with rap and metal in ANY bar.
Look at the reviews. Where were Priest one of the biggest? DETROIT!! Sellout!
jimmyjames wrote:
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:45:52 AM
OK, better late than never. I will "jump in" even though this party ended long ago.
For me, not "all" of anything" is one thing or another. As convoluted a statement as this is , the point I make is that not "all" Rap is so hideous as to deserve the utter disdain of the entire Metal Nation. Nor is "all" blues, jazz, pop, classical, hip hop, etc. (*with the possible exception of all country...HAAAAAAAAA!)
I get the joke, jj. No need to get into it. I laughed, too. From whence one hails notwithstanding, personal taste is a matter of variety amonst us and I, for one, embrace that. I have no idea what life is like in NZ but I have been to Detroit. You can literally draw a line with a paint brush between "good" neighborhoods and heartbreaking blight. Literally. Guido and I have driven around the greater Detroit area and went from beautiful to deplorable in the blink of an eye. He can actually show you the "dividing lines" as you drive. THAT is real, not conjecture or opinion. Additionally, there is a wide variety of musical influence there and one can easily see how spending one's 'formative' years there would have a tremendous affect on one's musical taste. How could it not? One must attend schools, shop and generally live among a HUGE diversity. It would be insanity to think one could simply close themsleves off from what is around them everyday!
I do NOT like Kid Rock. Don't care from whence he hails. NOT because of his musical choices but because I feel he "steals" (samples, as it were) from great artists rather than composing his own music and that most of his "original" work tends to have the same cadence over and over. I do not think he is a "fresh" as he would like us to believe. Certainly talented. Just my opinion. I like LL Cool J. I like the Beastie Boys. Loved the Tenors. I really love Bocelli. My point is, its "OK" to like other genres. As a vocalist, I tend to listen to certain things within the music that may not interest others. Delivery, sustain, range, emoting. On and on.
All of this leads me to the same conclusion, not "all" of anything is one thing or another.
[Nicky007] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:29:52 AM
Guido, great Kid Rock vid - very innovative - and the Bang Bang Eche (never heard'o'm) was an experience too.
Thanks !
Nicky. Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:34:33 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:49:03 AM
I guess Priest don't come here because there's not enough interest in their music. It's mainly bands who are really big or bands that are more underground that come here. The only way Priest could get a gig here would be as part of a festival. They toured Australia last year and were going to do a show here but they cancelled it. due to poor ticket sales I suppose. Either that or the logistics of packing everything up and flying over for a one off show were to much. For the record I did buy a ticket, but it was not to be. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:08:16 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[Nicky007] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:39:11 AM
Eurotrash: Stuff like Priest
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:11:47 AM
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit?
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:08:16 AM
Hey, you got one right! Now I wouldn't think to ask you a song the three sang together. You would just google it anyway.
About rap and metal, you missed the point. I grew up with it just as you did with Eurotrash. It is a meld that few will understand. Ever wonder why Priest doesn't go to kiwi land but plays three concerts in Detroit? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:59:15 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. )
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:59:15 AM
Yes, Pavarotti. I don't think not knowing who Billy Henderson is a sign of ignorance. Especially if I didn't grow up in Motown. ( where they pop caps in peoples asses for not knowing who Billy Henderson is, no doubt. ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:50:35 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:57:45 AM
Bang Bang Eche will shut me up.....
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:58:20 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:50:35 AM
How sad. You show that you are young and ignorant. Can you name which (or any) of the "three tenors" that died without a google? My guess is no.
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53:22 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:40:04 AM
Yeah I know Kid Rock's from Detroit, I got your point, the blending of rap and metal, he grew up on that stuff etc. He's also dressed like one of your dogs. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:27:51 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Notice the big "D" (Detroit Tigers) and mix of rap and rock in the vid?! Ummmm....the crowd?
[Nicky007] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:38:07 AM
Queensrÿche: American Soldier
Great album by a great group
The thing about Q is that their albums really take time.
I could hear on the first run that Soldier is topnotch, but even now on about seventh run I wouldnt say that I'm "familiar" with it.
It's a great testimony to the American soldier too. You get a real feeling for what's goin on in Afganistan and Iraq, what it's like being a mother, father, spouse, or chlld of one of the guys there, and what what it was like to be in WW II, Vietnam etc.
I think that all dudes who believe in the freedom and democracy (at least relative to the rest of the world) that we have in NA and WE should get into Soldier
All my support to all you brave guys who are risking your lives to keep away evil from our homes by fighting it far away, and helping other good people in those places !!!
Nicky. Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:39:02 AM Edited at: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:41:36 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:30:44 AM
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:27:51 AM
Notice the big "D" (Detroit Tigers) and mix of rap and rock in the vid?! Ummmm....the crowd?
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:26:52 AM
I've never been to America, much of less Detroit. Closest I've been is Canada. I would like to go there if they ever start letting people back in. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:12:14 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
With a statement like that, it is obvious you have never been to Detroit.
BTW. I like Diana and the Jackson 5, Run DMC, the Beastie Boys and even some M&M. Go rent the movie Gran Torino. That church is at the corner of my house. Come to my neighborhood someday and perhaps you'll understand. It is not uncommon to have real old-school Motown mixed with rap and metal in ANY bar.
Look at the reviews. Where were Priest one of the biggest? DETROIT!! Sellout!
jimmyjames wrote:
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:17:29 AM
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:12:14 AM
With a statement like that, it is obvious you have never been to Detroit.
BTW. I like Diana and the Jackson 5, Run DMC, the Beastie Boys and even some M&M. Go rent the movie Gran Torino. That church is at the corner of my house. Come to my neighborhood someday and perhaps you'll understand. It is not uncommon to have real old-school Motown mixed with rap and metal in ANY bar.
Look at the reviews. Where were Priest one of the biggest? DETROIT!! Sellout! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:53:51 AM)
jimmyjames wrote:
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
guidogodoy wrote:
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:05:14 AM
Crack The Skye - Mastodon. ( again )
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:54:54 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:53:51 AM
What does motown have to do with rap? I thought motown was Diana Ross and the Jackson 5. Don't tell me you're listening to that as well? You'll have to buy a silver sequined jumpsuit and grow an afro. If your going to claim credibility due to the fact that you were born in a place you might as well look the part too.
Perhaps you hadn't noticed, my friend, but I am from Detroit.
START listening to rap?!? Saying that to someone born and raised in Motown is a sure way to get a cap popped in your ass.
jimmyjames wrote:
If you're going to start listening to rap you'll have to start dressing like your dogs.
guidogodoy wrote:
That shows real maturity to admit such a thing. It was truly a tumultuous time in Detroit. I was not kidding about the sandbags and machine guns at the suburbs. Three streets away from my house. They used to send my father into the inner city to make business calls because he was Mexican. Like he wouldn't get shot as easily as a pure white person. Right. That is a great part of why I still hold to "not all rap is crap" statement. Especially literate and historically significant rhyme.
No harm, no foul, compadre.
Painkiller87 wrote:
You're right, I should be more open-minded. I have been a little irritated from being a little sleepless. I do need to read more modern history anyhow. Plus I used to be part of the rap crowd in high school as well so I shouldn't be saying anything either. I always regret my outbursts and this is no different.
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry, I grew up 20 years before you and three streets away from where they set up the sandbags and machine guns.
Read a little, kid. Malcolm X was also a key player in the movement in Michigan. Read his autobiography someday. Perhaps you'll understand that "not all rap is crap."
Open your mind, buddy.
Painkiller87 wrote:
Yeah, I was too young to remember that. Besides; I live in Tucson, AZ where NOTHING significant really happens.
guidogodoy wrote:
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
Painkiller87 wrote:
THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
YEEAAAAAAAAAHHH BOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!
FreakyMetalHead wrote:
guidogodoy wrote:
Goin' Back to Cali
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:41:35 AM
I guess you are too young to remember the race riots. Ever even HEARD of Farrakhan?
