| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:09:09 PM | |
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I think that this shows you that Rob got himself an incredible management team! THIS is what they should be doing with Priest, but instead we have Jayne.... don't get me started. I don't think that the Halford band got in the way at all. I don't think Rob wants to sit around and do nothing, he just isn't that kind of guy. He gets bored. The other guys obviously want their downtime, which is perfectly fine. Looking at how Halfords touring went this year, he only committed to the summer. I think he was waiting to see what Priest was going to do. When it was clear they wouldn't be doing anything, he then booked with Ozzy and during this tour is also doing headline shows. If Halford was his main focus, I think he would have booked dates next year as well. I could be totally off base though, who really knows? I just think that Rob has a lot more music to share with the world before he is done and it looks like the rest of Priest doesn't feel the same way. Sad they are going out this way...... Just like you said, in like a lion and out like a lamb! And it sucks and it just isn't the way it should be!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METAL MELTDOWN from Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:52:42 PM)| |  | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | I agree 100% JD. In like a lion and out like a lamb! I am disappointed that there will not be another album. I also agree that there should have been at least 2 more hell raisers in the footsteps of AOR. Instead we get our "Saucy Jack" or Nost to lead us out. I havent listened to that recording since the 2nd week I had it!!
I am thinking that maybe Halford, his band and recording is getting in the way of Priest. If he has the commitments that it looks like he does then HE may not have the time to mess with Priest. I get fucking emails from the Halford camp every day sometimes twice a day about a show or a sale or whatever. I got tired of getting them and cancelled the email alerts!! I am thinking now that that has been the problem all along. God knows he was doing shows and recording in tandem with Priest.
Who knows! I wish it were different. I wish they would come back and melt every speaker I have with another Painkiller. But I guess not.....
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I've still got the rest of December to rant my frustrations with this once great band and thats not too far off of what member Rob Ward had said Meltdown,just a little harsher. I agree with Rob Ward to a point here. THis is not aimed at you Meltdown but although I respect other member's opinions and the fact that they want to see Priest live one last time I get that,but for me no fuckin way. Are you kidding me here?
They take 3 and a half long years just to create Nostradamus,an album that is anything but "Judas Priest" and then since they couldn't cash in on the tour because the album sucked that much they pull a switcheroo and strike up a 30 year old album and tour it for a year and a half? And then 3 years after the Nostradamus LP they talk shit here and there about possibly making another studio LP just to pull a "Nah....we've decided to do another carbon copy tour again with no album" crap? And we are supposed to jump for fuckin joy because they are going out on tour again? AGAIN?
Rob came back and did a reunion tour,the Angel Of Retribution tour,the 6 week Nostradamus tour because it sucked that bad,the British Steel reunion tour and now a fuckin farewell Epitaph tour? And alls this band really has to show for it is the 2005's Angel Of Retribution album in which ironically the biggest Priest fan of them all(Hellrider) hates it! I however love the album,but they could of done way better,but thats the only thing that has come from this 7 years with Rob being back,and I for one think it "sucks". I think it sucks "big time".
Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of heavy metal but they have not upheld that title at all,not even close. The last 20 years has only 2 albums worth a shit,Painkiller and Angel of Retribution,they had a huge opportunity when Rob came back,they should of had a blistering album out after Angel Of retribution for 2007,should of had another one out in 2009 and we should of been waiting for the final LP in 2011 and like John Belushi always said: "But Nooooooooooooooo" we ain't got "shit" and we are supposed to jump up and down because they decided to tour again with no LP? Bullshit.
Priest will always be the masters of heavy metal and the Godfathers of heavy metal but they are anything but defenders of the faith,not even close. Since Motorhead isn't really heavy metal and how Iron Maiden sucks as bad as they do(yes Brian,they fucking SUCK!) Saxon have been the band that upholds "consistancy" because thier last 7 studio LPs are great and consistant,they actually blow away Judas Priest and Iron Maiden put together and it shouldn't be like this even though I like Saxon,it should of been Judas Priest who should of had the last 7 studio albums top notch,but they did this to themselves. What a sad ending to a once great band. Priest SUCKS for not giving thier fans a real heavy metal album to go out on,they will be forever looked at as this end of thier career fizzling out like a dud firecracker,its fucking "sad".
(Quoting Message by METAL MELTDOWN from Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:04:57 AM)
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| [METAL MELTDOWN] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:52:42 PM | |
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I agree 100% JD. In like a lion and out like a lamb! I am disappointed that there will not be another album. I also agree that there should have been at least 2 more hell raisers in the footsteps of AOR. Instead we get our "Saucy Jack" or Nost to lead us out. I havent listened to that recording since the 2nd week I had it!!
I am thinking that maybe Halford, his band and recording is getting in the way of Priest. If he has the commitments that it looks like he does then HE may not have the time to mess with Priest. I get fucking emails from the Halford camp every day sometimes twice a day about a show or a sale or whatever. I got tired of getting them and cancelled the email alerts!! I am thinking now that that has been the problem all along. God knows he was doing shows and recording in tandem with Priest.
Who knows! I wish it were different. I wish they would come back and melt every speaker I have with another Painkiller. But I guess not.....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:01:37 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I've still got the rest of December to rant my frustrations with this once great band and thats not too far off of what member Rob Ward had said Meltdown,just a little harsher. I agree with Rob Ward to a point here. THis is not aimed at you Meltdown but although I respect other member's opinions and the fact that they want to see Priest live one last time I get that,but for me no fuckin way. Are you kidding me here?
They take 3 and a half long years just to create Nostradamus,an album that is anything but "Judas Priest" and then since they couldn't cash in on the tour because the album sucked that much they pull a switcheroo and strike up a 30 year old album and tour it for a year and a half? And then 3 years after the Nostradamus LP they talk shit here and there about possibly making another studio LP just to pull a "Nah....we've decided to do another carbon copy tour again with no album" crap? And we are supposed to jump for fuckin joy because they are going out on tour again? AGAIN?
Rob came back and did a reunion tour,the Angel Of Retribution tour,the 6 week Nostradamus tour because it sucked that bad,the British Steel reunion tour and now a fuckin farewell Epitaph tour? And alls this band really has to show for it is the 2005's Angel Of Retribution album in which ironically the biggest Priest fan of them all(Hellrider) hates it! I however love the album,but they could of done way better,but thats the only thing that has come from this 7 years with Rob being back,and I for one think it "sucks". I think it sucks "big time".
Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of heavy metal but they have not upheld that title at all,not even close. The last 20 years has only 2 albums worth a shit,Painkiller and Angel of Retribution,they had a huge opportunity when Rob came back,they should of had a blistering album out after Angel Of retribution for 2007,should of had another one out in 2009 and we should of been waiting for the final LP in 2011 and like John Belushi always said: "But Nooooooooooooooo" we ain't got "shit" and we are supposed to jump up and down because they decided to tour again with no LP? Bullshit.
Priest will always be the masters of heavy metal and the Godfathers of heavy metal but they are anything but defenders of the faith,not even close. Since Motorhead isn't really heavy metal and how Iron Maiden sucks as bad as they do(yes Brian,they fucking SUCK!) Saxon have been the band that upholds "consistancy" because thier last 7 studio LPs are great and consistant,they actually blow away Judas Priest and Iron Maiden put together and it shouldn't be like this even though I like Saxon,it should of been Judas Priest who should of had the last 7 studio albums top notch,but they did this to themselves. What a sad ending to a once great band. Priest SUCKS for not giving thier fans a real heavy metal album to go out on,they will be forever looked at as this end of thier career fizzling out like a dud firecracker,its fucking "sad".
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:16:57 PM | |
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Nice comments...switch to Firefox on your Mac. Safari is your problem.Was with Jaguar, was with Leopard was with Snow Leopard (what I currently run).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:12:37 AM)| | | JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote: | | | I don't blame any fan for being angry I must say, I am let down tremendously I agree with everything you say JD. I love Nostradamus but come on people Priest are heavy metal, we should be getting the gut wrenching riffs with rip roaring double bass drumming and screaming vocals. The stuff that got us hooked on Priest to start with. What really pisses me off is when things like this crop up:
http://guitarinternational.com/wpmu/2010/12/01/rob-halford-it%E2%80%99s-all-about-being-fearless/ (for some reason my mac won't let me add hyperlinks)
Halford is asked a direct question about a 'next Priest album' and all we get is more ambiguity in the response. There is a hint that another album could be on the cards but never certain. Why can't they tell their suffering fans the truth? Seriously. I got straight on to kkdowning.net (steel mill) and asked him a direct question about Priest and if they are splitting up for good or just finishing touring, as of yet no response and I can guess there won't be one.
I've also read interesting things about Jayne Andrews and I'm starting to agree maybe she is making some utterly terrible and very selfish career choices on behalf of Priest and their fans.
GIVE US 1 MORE CRACKING METAL ALBUM FOR FUCK'S SAKE, THAT IS ALL I ASK!
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:55:55 AM | |
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I pretty much said the same thing earlier, but in a different way. I don't feel that they owe their fans anything because they have already given us so much. I think they should do it FOR THEMSELVES! I have been a Priest fan for 28 years and I never in a million years thought they would go out this way. If I were asked by someone who didn't know Judas Priest at all to give them an album that would show them who Priest was, it wouldn't be Nostradamus. I love Nostradamus for what it is but I certainly don't consider it their greatest achievement. It's absolutely sad to me that this is being handled the way it is. The Scorpions are going out in style! They gave their fans one last album that sounded like the Scorpions of old and their fans loved it! They are touring for 2 years, including only a track or two from the new album and playing all their greatest songs. They are doing meet and greets and pre-show parties with giveaways. Now THAT's how you do it! THIS is UNWORTHY of Priest! But their management SUCKS and has for a very long time. I'm sure this final tour will be promoted like any other tour. You would think that Priest would want to go out with all guns blazing...... I guess not.
J.D., yes, I'll go to as many shows as I can and enjoy them. But I will be sick to my stomach at the same time. This should be a CELEBRATION of all that Priest has accomplished in their 40 years. They should end it with an album that wraps up their careers. But like you said, if it's not in their hearts to do it, then they shouldn't because it won't be our Priest...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:44:29 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | well,youc can thankl all the moaning so called priest fans for the epitaph,seeing as most priest fans slated the nostrodamus album,its no wonder the boys are calling it a day.if all you want to listen to is speed metal albums instead of a genius of an album like nostro,then if i was one of the priest members i would say bollocks to you lot as well.i am in mourning at the moment that i am not going to see priest anymore after next year.so i hope you are all pleased with yourselves for slagging off thier albums.now i suppose those of you who dont like nostradamus will go off and slag some other groups albums and thinks its funny.got nothing better to do eh.i have loved priests music ever since i listened to unleashed and i cant understand why people have to moan.i would just like to thank rob and the boys for giving us some very memorable concerts over the years.oh and one other thing now i know why tim owens left as well,cause the same people moaned about him as well.instead of enjoying what they were doing.they made brill albums with tim but you didnt like them albums either because it wasnt rob.well boo hoo to you.
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:33:37 AM | |
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I agree with JD, if this is a result of fan reaction they must not be used to criticism, after 40 years in the biz they should have that one well in hand. Tim left because rob came back, and there is only one mike. I agree that people didnt give those albums a fair chance, but thats life.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:44:29 AM)| | | sue.daglish wrote: | | well,youc can thankl all the moaning so called priest fans for the epitaph,seeing as most priest fans slated the nostrodamus album,its no wonder the boys are calling it a day.if all you want to listen to is speed metal albums instead of a genius of an album like nostro,then if i was one of the priest members i would say bollocks to you lot as well.i am in mourning at the moment that i am not going to see priest anymore after next year.so i hope you are all pleased with yourselves for slagging off thier albums.now i suppose those of you who dont like nostradamus will go off and slag some other groups albums and thinks its funny.got nothing better to do eh.i have loved priests music ever since i listened to unleashed and i cant understand why people have to moan.i would just like to thank rob and the boys for giving us some very memorable concerts over the years.oh and one other thing now i know why tim owens left as well,cause the same people moaned about him as well.instead of enjoying what they were doing.they made brill albums with tim but you didnt like them albums either because it wasnt rob.well boo hoo to you.
hope you are happy now.
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| [JT_Small_Deadly_Space] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:12:37 AM | |
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| I don't blame any fan for being angry I must say, I am let down tremendously I agree with everything you say JD. I love Nostradamus but come on people Priest are heavy metal, we should be getting the gut wrenching riffs with rip roaring double bass drumming and screaming vocals. The stuff that got us hooked on Priest to start with. What really pisses me off is when things like this crop up:
http://guitarinternational.com/wpmu/2010/12/01/rob-halford-it%E2%80%99s-all-about-being-fearless/ (for some reason my mac won't let me add hyperlinks)
Halford is asked a direct question about a 'next Priest album' and all we get is more ambiguity in the response. There is a hint that another album could be on the cards but never certain. Why can't they tell their suffering fans the truth? Seriously. I got straight on to kkdowning.net (steel mill) and asked him a direct question about Priest and if they are splitting up for good or just finishing touring, as of yet no response and I can guess there won't be one.
I've also read interesting things about Jayne Andrews and I'm starting to agree maybe she is making some utterly terrible and very selfish career choices on behalf of Priest and their fans.
GIVE US 1 MORE CRACKING METAL ALBUM FOR FUCK'S SAKE, THAT IS ALL I ASK!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:04:12 AM | |
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. The name "Judas Priest" is about what the band has established and that is bone crunching heavy metal and I see the greatness in Nostradamus as an epic album but its not my thing and its not 95% of old school Judas Priest fan's thing either.
The band are not little kids they are big boys and should be able to handle critisism. What did they expect? Did they expect every fan and rivit headed heavy metal maniac that has been grinding thier souls on albums like Hell Bent For Leather,Unleashed In The East, British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance,Defenders Of The Faith,Ram It Down,Painkiller,Angel Of Retribution to suddenly drop thier metal cravings and learn to like the 22 song Nostradamus album that is almost an hour and a half long with over half of it soft tracks?
If they wanted to do the Nostradamus album in my opinion they should of done it after they retired Judas Priest and call the band name something else and don't bother to tour it,like a side project. Even those who LOVE the album I've heard say they still want one last heavy metal record that can stand up to albums like Painkiller or British Steel.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sue.daglish from Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:44:29 AM)
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well,youc can thankl all the moaning so called priest fans for the epitaph,seeing as most priest fans slated the nostrodamus album,its no wonder the boys are calling it a day.if all you want to listen to is speed metal albums instead of a genius of an album like nostro,then if i was one of the priest members i would say bollocks to you lot as well.i am in mourning at the moment that i am not going to see priest anymore after next year.so i hope you are all pleased with yourselves for slagging off thier albums.now i suppose those of you who dont like nostradamus will go off and slag some other groups albums and thinks its funny.got nothing better to do eh.i have loved priests music ever since i listened to unleashed and i cant understand why people have to moan.i would just like to thank rob and the boys for giving us some very memorable concerts over the years.oh and one other thing now i know why tim owens left as well,cause the same people moaned about him as well.instead of enjoying what they were doing.they made brill albums with tim but you didnt like them albums either because it wasnt rob.well boo hoo to you.
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| [sue.daglish] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:44:29 AM | |
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well,youc can thankl all the moaning so called priest fans for the epitaph,seeing as most priest fans slated the nostrodamus album,its no wonder the boys are calling it a day.if all you want to listen to is speed metal albums instead of a genius of an album like nostro,then if i was one of the priest members i would say bollocks to you lot as well.i am in mourning at the moment that i am not going to see priest anymore after next year.so i hope you are all pleased with yourselves for slagging off thier albums.now i suppose those of you who dont like nostradamus will go off and slag some other groups albums and thinks its funny.got nothing better to do eh.i have loved priests music ever since i listened to unleashed and i cant understand why people have to moan.i would just like to thank rob and the boys for giving us some very memorable concerts over the years.oh and one other thing now i know why tim owens left as well,cause the same people moaned about him as well.instead of enjoying what they were doing.they made brill albums with tim but you didnt like them albums either because it wasnt rob.well boo hoo to you.
hope you are happy now.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:36:36 AM | |
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Yes spapad HRMG's post is 100% "TRUE". I think however that many that go to concerts regularly should attend these last Priest shows even if I'm butt hurt and won't go,that doesn't mean that everybody should feel the same but we should all be either sad or pissed off at this crap statement in December. Spa you said it best....."Big news in December"? Christ not in a million years did I think that an "Epitaph" tour a final tour without an album would be the "big news"??? We all know what this band is capable of,for gods sake they still play "Painkiller" live ( yeah I know its not very good live anymore but the music is still heavy ) so why can't they produce that energy in the studio?
Maybe someone should create a thread for the band members to read and perhaps we should all tell the band that we demand another album,they have always said without "us" there is no "them" so we should have some kind of say in this right? Yeah I know we don't but work with me here. Its just frustrating and if anything one of the band members MUST have seen Hellrider's post throughout these last 3 years demanding a blistering heavy metal album for that alone they should make one! I can't accept this and I "have to" . This really "sucks" guys.
And I agree with HRMG ....(even though I know she will go and enjoy the last Priest concert) they release news about a final world tour with no new album and we are supposed to jump up and down excited because we are getting one last tour without a new LP? This would of been so much easier to accept if they mentioned that in 2008 the new album"Nostradamus" will be the band's last album and tour ect...it would of been so much better but when we get hints and news that a new album could be in the works and then only to find out the joke is on us,that really is a let down.
It let down the fans,it let down the excitment about a new "real" heavy metal album and it let down this entire forum. We should be talking about a new track and album cover right now,but nope. Perhaps the guys in Priest will get an ear full this next year,maybe they will make one more to shut up people,but thier hearts have to be in it,and if its not then we won't get a good album. So I guess the guys in Priest have wasted too much time since Rob came back. "SIGH". What a bitch this is guys.
This band has so much potential left in them but they refuse to use it. WOW.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:52:32 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | HRMG, you hit the nail on the head.
It's been my feelings in the past week, but I pretty much kept them to myself and a couple of friends after my initial shock and pissed offedness about it.
Why say big news is coming in December? Big news is........guess what, Judas Priest is going into the studio this spring to record a new CD! THAT is big news!
Big News is NOT: By the way, We are retiring and are going to do Another greatest hits CD to tour with, THAT is not Big News, it's a Big Blow to the gut!
I can't help but wonder what happened? Wish we could get the Big picture, but chances are no one will know till after the Epitaph tour.
J.D. you have every right to feel slighted. I think we all do to an extent. This past weeks announcement was not expected, and we were all expecting ONE last killer CD.
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BECAUSE BIG NEWS IS STILL COMING MY METAL SISTER
NOW LETS HEAR YOU SCREAM OUT FOR THIS NEXT MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER ALBUM.
ANY TIME AND DAY ANY SECOND
THE MIGHTY PRIEST ARE GOING TO BLAST US IN THE FACE SO HARD WITH THIS NEXT MIGHTY PRIEST BEAST METAL MONSTER ALBUM WE WILL ALL GET BLASTED INTO THE WALL.
JUDAS PRIEST
MASTERS OF METAL
CONTINUING THE LEGACY
BACK AND WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE
FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE
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HRMG, you hit the nail on the head.
It's been my feelings in the past week, but I pretty much kept them to myself and a couple of friends after my initial shock and pissed offedness about it.
Why say big news is coming in December? Big news is........guess what, Judas Priest is going into the studio this spring to record a new CD! THAT is big news!
Big News is NOT: By the way, We are retiring and are going to do Another greatest hits CD to tour with, THAT is not Big News, it's a Big Blow to the gut!
I can't help but wonder what happened? Wish we could get the Big picture, but chances are no one will know till after the Epitaph tour.
J.D. you have every right to feel slighted. I think we all do to an extent. This past weeks announcement was not expected, and we were all expecting ONE last killer CD.
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HRMG, you hit the nail on the head.
It's been my feelings in the past week, but I pretty much kept them to myself and a couple of friends after my initial shock and pissed offedness about it.
Why say big news is coming in December? Big news is........guess what, Judas Priest is going into the studio this spring to record a new CD! THAT is big news!
Big News is NOT: By the way, We are retiring and are going to do Another greatest hits CD to tour with, THAT is not Big News, it's a Big Blow to the gut!
I can't help but wonder what happened? Wish we could get the Big picture, but chances are no one will know till after the Epitaph tour.
J.D. you have every right to feel slighted. I think we all do to an extent. This past weeks announcement was not expected, and we were all expecting ONE last killer CD.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:29:43 PM | |
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After a week now since the big announcement, all I can think about is the piss poor way that this was all handled! Hey fans, there will be a BIG announcement in December...... did they really think we were all going to jump for joy about this??? Then the announcement itself - left us with many unanswered questions like: is this just the end of their touring or is it the end of Priest all together? They had to have heard the puplic outcry and KNOW that we all desperately want another kick ass METAL MONSTER album for them to hang their hats on, but we get no response. There is some "spokesperson" that states it's not the end of Priest, leading us to believe that there is still hope. But we get nothing official from Priest management to know whether or not that statement is true. FFS, isn't it MANAGEMENT'S JOB to be monitoring the response to this announcement? Shouldn't they put an end to rumors and misunderstandings and tell us what is actually going on??? That's what makes me think it really is over, otherwise they would say something. Then of course, there is the TIMING of this big announcement - during HALFORD's tour, on a day that he is performing! He is the only one available for comment while everyone else sits back and ignores the questions. It leaves me wondering, who did Rob piss off?
Some answers would be nice. But knowing Priest's management, we won't get any until the band tells us in an interview....
I agree with many on this board that believe that they just seem to be throwing it all away if they don't record another album. We all know that they have it in them. Hell, don't even do the songs live - just give us one last kick ass album that we can hold up and say, now THIS IS METAL! As mighty as Priest is, you would think they would want to end their careers on a KILLER BRITISH HEAVY METAL ALBUM!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:53:00 PM | |
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Good post Anders. And it just pisses me the fuck off Guido,this band has all the cards,all the talet much more than Saxon and Iron Maiden put together but they aren't using it? It just pisses me off to see this,we should of had 3 normal heavy metal albums from this band after the release of Angel Of Retribution,after the last tour they should of done Nostradamus with no tour heading into retirement...it just sickens my stomach to see this band go out like this.
Coulda,shoulda woulda. I know,I know. Yes I do not care for the Nostradamus LP,but even I can see the "greatness" in the album,its just that if we had 4 killer studio album from 2005 - 2011 with Rob,then they toured thier final tour ect...then if they would of put out Nostradamus with no tour,I and even maybe Hellrider (maybe not hellrider lol!) may have accepted Nostradamus a little bit more?
It just doesn't set well with me to have the name "Judas Priest" end a career with the Nostradamus LP,if they would put out one more like Retribution/Painkiller it would make Nostradamus better for me. But Nooooooooooooo. Wheres my Belushi piicture? lol!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:42:32 PM)
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Hey, let's get this straight. I do NOT want to see Priest one last time. I want to see them dozens. I would also argue that I am the bigger Priest fan over Hellrider. LOL!!!!
As always, very interesting comments, JD. I mean that quite sincerely.
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I've still got the rest of December to rant my frustrations with this once great band and thats not too far off of what member Rob Ward had said Meltdown,just a little harsher. I agree with Rob Ward to a point here. THis is not aimed at you Meltdown but although I respect other member's opinions and the fact that they want to see Priest live one last time I get that,but for me no fuckin way. Are you kidding me here?
They take 3 and a half long years just to create Nostradamus,an album that is anything but "Judas Priest" and then since they couldn't cash in on the tour because the album sucked that much they pull a switcheroo and strike up a 30 year old album and tour it for a year and a half? And then 3 years after the Nostradamus LP they talk shit here and there about possibly making another studio LP just to pull a "Nah....we've decided to do another carbon copy tour again with no album" crap? And we are supposed to jump for fuckin joy because they are going out on tour again? AGAIN?
Rob came back and did a reunion tour,the Angel Of Retribution tour,the 6 week Nostradamus tour because it sucked that bad,the British Steel reunion tour and now a fuckin farewell Epitaph tour? And alls this band really has to show for it is the 2005's Angel Of Retribution album in which ironically the biggest Priest fan of them all(Hellrider) hates it! I however love the album,but they could of done way better,but thats the only thing that has come from this 7 years with Rob being back,and I for one think it "sucks". I think it sucks "big time".
Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of heavy metal but they have not upheld that title at all,not even close. The last 20 years has only 2 albums worth a shit,Painkiller and Angel of Retribution,they had a huge opportunity when Rob came back,they should of had a blistering album out after Angel Of retribution for 2007,should of had another one out in 2009 and we should of been waiting for the final LP in 2011 and like John Belushi always said: "But Nooooooooooooooo" we ain't got "shit" and we are supposed to jump up and down because they decided to tour again with no LP? Bullshit.
Priest will always be the masters of heavy metal and the Godfathers of heavy metal but they are anything but defenders of the faith,not even close. Since Motorhead isn't really heavy metal and how Iron Maiden sucks as bad as they do(yes Brian,they fucking SUCK!) Saxon have been the band that upholds "consistancy" because thier last 7 studio LPs are great and consistant,they actually blow away Judas Priest and Iron Maiden put together and it shouldn't be like this even though I like Saxon,it should of been Judas Priest who should of had the last 7 studio albums top notch,but they did this to themselves. What a sad ending to a once great band. Priest SUCKS for not giving thier fans a real heavy metal album to go out on,they will be forever looked at as this end of thier career fizzling out like a dud firecracker,its fucking "sad".
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| [Anders Haneskog] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:46:30 PM | |
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This is a sad moment for us all. For a long time now I have understod that the flame of Priest had not been burning as intense as before. I saw that they was feed and done for life when it came to doing Priest. I do not know why because they have much more to give. I hope they are not fighting amongst eachother - I do not think so.
It is a little bit strange. Judas Priest has been the best thing in their lives, I´m shure and why would they like to split now?
Of course one has to respect and accept their decission and off course they have thought this through. Still one must wonder anyway.
I can tell you how I am personally: I am not someone that wants to quit anything good. I do not like retirements. Retirements are like death! It like saying goodbye forever to a big part of your life - and you will ever see that again!
It is sad! We are all heartbrooken by this and I just wish they will keep on doing music in other forms again, some of the guys have done solo-things and that is good. However - understand this: it will no be the same thing as Priest!
What are they going to do for the remaining parts of their lives????
Sit in front of a warm fire in a house in the middlands somewhere??? Perhaps ziiipping on a whiskey, looking out on the dark landscape out there, remembering their young years as travelling metalmen!?
With sadness and dispair in their dead, lonely eyes, lost for the world - ever to rise again!
What will they do all this future years? Will the waste them, loose the meaning in the streams of forgotten times!??
Rob might want to keep on going...Who wanted out - how many of them where dead tired of their youthfull lives and wanted to kill of their carrer and say goodbye forever!?
I am sad today and it will never be the same again! Maybe this is a kind of end of my own childhood also - a time I never can return to!
Goodbye to Judas Priest and to my past life!
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:42:32 PM | |
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Hey, let's get this straight. I do NOT want to see Priest one last time. I want to see them dozens. I would also argue that I am the bigger Priest fan over Hellrider. LOL!!!!
As always, very interesting comments, JD. I mean that quite sincerely.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:01:37 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I've still got the rest of December to rant my frustrations with this once great band and thats not too far off of what member Rob Ward had said Meltdown,just a little harsher. I agree with Rob Ward to a point here. THis is not aimed at you Meltdown but although I respect other member's opinions and the fact that they want to see Priest live one last time I get that,but for me no fuckin way. Are you kidding me here?
They take 3 and a half long years just to create Nostradamus,an album that is anything but "Judas Priest" and then since they couldn't cash in on the tour because the album sucked that much they pull a switcheroo and strike up a 30 year old album and tour it for a year and a half? And then 3 years after the Nostradamus LP they talk shit here and there about possibly making another studio LP just to pull a "Nah....we've decided to do another carbon copy tour again with no album" crap? And we are supposed to jump for fuckin joy because they are going out on tour again? AGAIN?
Rob came back and did a reunion tour,the Angel Of Retribution tour,the 6 week Nostradamus tour because it sucked that bad,the British Steel reunion tour and now a fuckin farewell Epitaph tour? And alls this band really has to show for it is the 2005's Angel Of Retribution album in which ironically the biggest Priest fan of them all(Hellrider) hates it! I however love the album,but they could of done way better,but thats the only thing that has come from this 7 years with Rob being back,and I for one think it "sucks". I think it sucks "big time".
Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of heavy metal but they have not upheld that title at all,not even close. The last 20 years has only 2 albums worth a shit,Painkiller and Angel of Retribution,they had a huge opportunity when Rob came back,they should of had a blistering album out after Angel Of retribution for 2007,should of had another one out in 2009 and we should of been waiting for the final LP in 2011 and like John Belushi always said: "But Nooooooooooooooo" we ain't got "shit" and we are supposed to jump up and down because they decided to tour again with no LP? Bullshit.
Priest will always be the masters of heavy metal and the Godfathers of heavy metal but they are anything but defenders of the faith,not even close. Since Motorhead isn't really heavy metal and how Iron Maiden sucks as bad as they do(yes Brian,they fucking SUCK!) Saxon have been the band that upholds "consistancy" because thier last 7 studio LPs are great and consistant,they actually blow away Judas Priest and Iron Maiden put together and it shouldn't be like this even though I like Saxon,it should of been Judas Priest who should of had the last 7 studio albums top notch,but they did this to themselves. What a sad ending to a once great band. Priest SUCKS for not giving thier fans a real heavy metal album to go out on,they will be forever looked at as this end of thier career fizzling out like a dud firecracker,its fucking "sad".
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:01:37 PM | |
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I've still got the rest of December to rant my frustrations with this once great band and thats not too far off of what member Rob Ward had said Meltdown,just a little harsher. I agree with Rob Ward to a point here. THis is not aimed at you Meltdown but although I respect other member's opinions and the fact that they want to see Priest live one last time I get that,but for me no fuckin way. Are you kidding me here?
They take 3 and a half long years just to create Nostradamus,an album that is anything but "Judas Priest" and then since they couldn't cash in on the tour because the album sucked that much they pull a switcheroo and strike up a 30 year old album and tour it for a year and a half? And then 3 years after the Nostradamus LP they talk shit here and there about possibly making another studio LP just to pull a "Nah....we've decided to do another carbon copy tour again with no album" crap? And we are supposed to jump for fuckin joy because they are going out on tour again? AGAIN?
Rob came back and did a reunion tour,the Angel Of Retribution tour,the 6 week Nostradamus tour because it sucked that bad,the British Steel reunion tour and now a fuckin farewell Epitaph tour? And alls this band really has to show for it is the 2005's Angel Of Retribution album in which ironically the biggest Priest fan of them all(Hellrider) hates it! I however love the album,but they could of done way better,but thats the only thing that has come from this 7 years with Rob being back,and I for one think it "sucks". I think it sucks "big time".
Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of heavy metal but they have not upheld that title at all,not even close. The last 20 years has only 2 albums worth a shit,Painkiller and Angel of Retribution,they had a huge opportunity when Rob came back,they should of had a blistering album out after Angel Of retribution for 2007,should of had another one out in 2009 and we should of been waiting for the final LP in 2011 and like John Belushi always said: "But Nooooooooooooooo" we ain't got "shit" and we are supposed to jump up and down because they decided to tour again with no LP? Bullshit.
Priest will always be the masters of heavy metal and the Godfathers of heavy metal but they are anything but defenders of the faith,not even close. Since Motorhead isn't really heavy metal and how Iron Maiden sucks as bad as they do(yes Brian,they fucking SUCK!) Saxon have been the band that upholds "consistancy" because thier last 7 studio LPs are great and consistant,they actually blow away Judas Priest and Iron Maiden put together and it shouldn't be like this even though I like Saxon,it should of been Judas Priest who should of had the last 7 studio albums top notch,but they did this to themselves. What a sad ending to a once great band. Priest SUCKS for not giving thier fans a real heavy metal album to go out on,they will be forever looked at as this end of thier career fizzling out like a dud firecracker,its fucking "sad".
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| [Brian_Evans] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:00:06 AM | |
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They redeemed themselves with Painkiller after Turbo, returned to what I refer to as their swagger. Cd's like British Steel, SFV, Defenders, Painkiller, Unleashed in the East, ect. contained this swagger. They can redeem themselves again and return to that metal (Painkiller) swagger with a new cd and go out on top. I don't really care if they are the biggest or most respected and all that, just crank out solid metal and I'll be happy. I don't care if they don't tour again, just give me a one more cd with that old swagger to kick back and listen to in the comfort of my home any time I want. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METAL MELTDOWN from Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:04:57 AM)| | | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | Forgot about that shit!! I dont study maiden! BUT they did not lighten the load, change the formula, record their "Turbo". Dont get me wrong, I am not ragging Priest. There is great things in everthing they have done even turbo had some moments. It boils down to consistancy. I do wish they would have taken SFV and Defenders and increased the intensity of those till now. Painkiller should have followed Defenders and it should have been gut wrenching metal on each following. It should be Judas Priest and Tipton or Downing on every young aspiring guitar players lips instead of that no talent Kirk Hamett from Metallica who couldnt hold a candle to either.
I think in the mid 80's with the inception of, dare I say, Jayne Andrews is where it all changed. They changed their look with adding big hair and flashier stage wear and they took a mainstream approach to their tunes trying to capitalize on the popularity of the hair bands here in the US instead of staying with the formula. Turbo, even with its moments, would be more believeable as a Ratt album. THey finally figured it out with replacing Holland with Travis and put out what Priest should have been putting out all along but then they shot themselves in the foot with the ripper era albums by making themselves sound every guitar chuggin drop d nu-metal band out there and we all know that Priest is NOT a nu-metal band.......
Priest is my band and I love 'em but I say these things because thats the way I now see it. They could have been the biggest band in the world and were well on track of being just that by taking what Sabbath started and doing it right........
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | Ever heard of Blaze Bayley? He replaced Bruce Dickenson who left Maiden from 1993 to 1999. They recorded 2 cd'c with Baily. They also lost guitarist Adrien Smith at the same time. Drummer Clive Burr left after Number of The Beast. So Maiden have had their setbacks just like Priest but continued to crank out quality metal cd's over the years.
| | | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | HB....Maiden sells out because Maiden has stuck to the same formula. Maiden drives it home with each recording and thats what the fans expect and want. You see a lot of bands that have stuck to their guns that will still fill up an arena. When Halford left way back when I lost interest. I was totally turned off by the Ripper era and although I regained interest in this band when Halford came back I can see and understand how a lot of people would not or the interest would be lackluster. Maiden never lost Dickenson or anyone else and never went through a dry or slient spell like Priest did. If these things never happened to Priest then Maiden would be opening up for them!!
I like that fact that there is diversity in Priest recordings and its taught me to be diverse in my own music but if they want to sell out shows then they should have been emulated what was done on Painkiller with every recording since. Nost was their, IMO, spinal tap moment and its a shame they cant do one more to top or try to top Painkiller. THey DID approach it with AOR...... (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, December 11, 2010 2:54:50 PM)
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maiden sells out. even in the 80's priest were not in the top ranks like they should have been. that they continue to tour is awesome, but if they did a tour alone they dont sell enough seats to hit the main arenas. I dont get it, but its a fact. crue came close to selling out, gnr (axle version) sold out. priest sells fuck all. why is that?
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| How can you guys say that Priest haven't got the respect they deserve. They are one of the most respected metal bands out there. They haven't made as much money as they could have because they have released experimental albums like POE, Turbo, Demolition and Nostra and alienated sections of their fan base and also because they didn't stick to their guns in the 90s like some of the really big bands did. Seriously would you expect a band that peaked in the mid 80s that hasn't had mainstream success to be selling out arenas more than 25 years later. It's the amount of respect they have alone that's allowing them to continue to tour. |
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| [METAL MELTDOWN] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:04:57 AM | |
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Forgot about that shit!! I dont study maiden! BUT they did not lighten the load, change the formula, record their "Turbo". Dont get me wrong, I am not ragging Priest. There is great things in everthing they have done even turbo had some moments. It boils down to consistancy. I do wish they would have taken SFV and Defenders and increased the intensity of those till now. Painkiller should have followed Defenders and it should have been gut wrenching metal on each following. It should be Judas Priest and Tipton or Downing on every young aspiring guitar players lips instead of that no talent Kirk Hamett from Metallica who couldnt hold a candle to either.
I think in the mid 80's with the inception of, dare I say, Jayne Andrews is where it all changed. They changed their look with adding big hair and flashier stage wear and they took a mainstream approach to their tunes trying to capitalize on the popularity of the hair bands here in the US instead of staying with the formula. Turbo, even with its moments, would be more believeable as a Ratt album. THey finally figured it out with replacing Holland with Travis and put out what Priest should have been putting out all along but then they shot themselves in the foot with the ripper era albums by making themselves sound every guitar chuggin drop d nu-metal band out there and we all know that Priest is NOT a nu-metal band.......
Priest is my band and I love 'em but I say these things because thats the way I now see it. They could have been the biggest band in the world and were well on track of being just that by taking what Sabbath started and doing it right........
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, December 13, 2010 7:57:31 PM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | Ever heard of Blaze Bayley? He replaced Bruce Dickenson who left Maiden from 1993 to 1999. They recorded 2 cd'c with Baily. They also lost guitarist Adrien Smith at the same time. Drummer Clive Burr left after Number of The Beast. So Maiden have had their setbacks just like Priest but continued to crank out quality metal cd's over the years.
| | | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | HB....Maiden sells out because Maiden has stuck to the same formula. Maiden drives it home with each recording and thats what the fans expect and want. You see a lot of bands that have stuck to their guns that will still fill up an arena. When Halford left way back when I lost interest. I was totally turned off by the Ripper era and although I regained interest in this band when Halford came back I can see and understand how a lot of people would not or the interest would be lackluster. Maiden never lost Dickenson or anyone else and never went through a dry or slient spell like Priest did. If these things never happened to Priest then Maiden would be opening up for them!!
I like that fact that there is diversity in Priest recordings and its taught me to be diverse in my own music but if they want to sell out shows then they should have been emulated what was done on Painkiller with every recording since. Nost was their, IMO, spinal tap moment and its a shame they cant do one more to top or try to top Painkiller. THey DID approach it with AOR...... (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, December 11, 2010 2:54:50 PM)
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maiden sells out. even in the 80's priest were not in the top ranks like they should have been. that they continue to tour is awesome, but if they did a tour alone they dont sell enough seats to hit the main arenas. I dont get it, but its a fact. crue came close to selling out, gnr (axle version) sold out. priest sells fuck all. why is that?
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| How can you guys say that Priest haven't got the respect they deserve. They are one of the most respected metal bands out there. They haven't made as much money as they could have because they have released experimental albums like POE, Turbo, Demolition and Nostra and alienated sections of their fan base and also because they didn't stick to their guns in the 90s like some of the really big bands did. Seriously would you expect a band that peaked in the mid 80s that hasn't had mainstream success to be selling out arenas more than 25 years later. It's the amount of respect they have alone that's allowing them to continue to tour. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:26:43 AM | |
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I get that they had one good album. after that its all down hill, to the point where they release the farce that is chinese democracy. actualy to use "they" with chinese is a streach. its just axle.
I guess I love the variety of priest, more than the sameness of maiden. supose that puts me in the minority
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Monday, December 13, 2010 3:47:05 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | GNR had the biggest selling debut album of all time. 18 million in the US alone. They were the biggest band in the world back in the early 90s. Up there with the likes of U2 and Pink Floyd. It's not going to be hard for them to sell 20000 tix today. Priest have never had anything more than mid level success and it's not down to Gull records. It's down to the fact that they have been inconsistant to the extent of alienating some of their fans and not sticking to their guns the way the likes of Maiden and AC/DC have.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I get that consistancy is the best sales formula, and it works for maiden and acdc. I dont get GNR selling a ton of tix this year. I get also that rob left, and that hurt, they had either 2 albums in 12 years or none, depending on how you count it.
even touring painkiller with megadeath and testament they didnt sell out here. ok, testament was fairly unknown then, and the tour got fuck all for promo, but still. maiden sold out that year, and every tour I can think of since, except the final frontier, which was close to a sell out.
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