| [DemonCat] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:43:19 AM | |
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Sorry I missed ya HB. Take care
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:41:50 AM)| |  | Head banger wrote: | | think our dollar is worth more, so its probably only $5
beer in a bar is probably cheaper
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | Damn ! Disregarding the exchange rate, just the conversion from Litres to Gallons makes it $5.16 per gallon !
| | | Head banger wrote: | | us gallon is 3.88 L
dunno the exchange rate
funny, we had a different gallon, which was bigger.
if the dollar is close to yours, which I think its within 5% we are getting screwed. damn taxes
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | What's the exchange rate and conversion to gallons ? Too many beers for math right now.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | $1.33 here
of course thats canadian dollars and liters, dunno, dont want to do that math. probably more than anywhere in the states, it usualy is.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive. 
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:42:13 AM | |
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This has nothing to do with anything but one of the emoticons looks eerily close to John Wayne Gacy's Pogo the Clown character. REALLY CREEPY.
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:42:04 AM | |
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Bye, HB!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:40:50 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, it does cost more to get gas to these places. I heard some are having trouble getting it at all now. would love to do that drive
well, I should be in bed, think I have shit to do tomorow
nice to chat with you all for a bit
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Back in 1989 I did a 4-day marathon drive from Alaska through the Yukon Territory and northern BC to get to Washington State and back (2300 miles one-way). I remember some of the gas prices in the more remote stops along the Alcan Highway were approaching highway robbery as they were the only place you could stop for gas for 100 or so miles, if not longer, also remember the confusion of converting liters to gallons and kilometers to miles......I suck at math, even when I'm cold sober. |
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| [Head banger] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:41:50 AM | |
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think our dollar is worth more, so its probably only $5
beer in a bar is probably cheaper
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:40:52 AM)| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | Damn ! Disregarding the exchange rate, just the conversion from Litres to Gallons makes it $5.16 per gallon !
| | | Head banger wrote: | | us gallon is 3.88 L
dunno the exchange rate
funny, we had a different gallon, which was bigger.
if the dollar is close to yours, which I think its within 5% we are getting screwed. damn taxes
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | What's the exchange rate and conversion to gallons ? Too many beers for math right now.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | $1.33 here
of course thats canadian dollars and liters, dunno, dont want to do that math. probably more than anywhere in the states, it usualy is.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:41:41 AM | |
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Take care H.B. Go Ferrari tomorrow !
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:40:50 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, it does cost more to get gas to these places. I heard some are having trouble getting it at all now. would love to do that drive
well, I should be in bed, think I have shit to do tomorow
nice to chat with you all for a bit
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Back in 1989 I did a 4-day marathon drive from Alaska through the Yukon Territory and northern BC to get to Washington State and back (2300 miles one-way). I remember some of the gas prices in the more remote stops along the Alcan Highway were approaching highway robbery as they were the only place you could stop for gas for 100 or so miles, if not longer, also remember the confusion of converting liters to gallons and kilometers to miles......I suck at math, even when I'm cold sober. |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:40:52 AM | |
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Damn ! Disregarding the exchange rate, just the conversion from Litres to Gallons makes it $5.16 per gallon !
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:38:22 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | us gallon is 3.88 L
dunno the exchange rate
funny, we had a different gallon, which was bigger.
if the dollar is close to yours, which I think its within 5% we are getting screwed. damn taxes
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | What's the exchange rate and conversion to gallons ? Too many beers for math right now.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | $1.33 here
of course thats canadian dollars and liters, dunno, dont want to do that math. probably more than anywhere in the states, it usualy is.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [Head banger] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:40:50 AM | |
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well, it does cost more to get gas to these places. I heard some are having trouble getting it at all now. would love to do that drive
well, I should be in bed, think I have shit to do tomorow
nice to chat with you all for a bit
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:38:42 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Back in 1989 I did a 4-day marathon drive from Alaska through the Yukon Territory and northern BC to get to Washington State and back (2300 miles one-way). I remember some of the gas prices in the more remote stops along the Alcan Highway were approaching highway robbery as they were the only place you could stop for gas for 100 or so miles, if not longer, also remember the confusion of converting liters to gallons and kilometers to miles......I suck at math, even when I'm cold sober. |
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| [Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:38:42 AM | |
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| Back in 1989 I did a 4-day marathon drive from Alaska through the Yukon Territory and northern BC to get to Washington State and back (2300 miles one-way). I remember some of the gas prices in the more remote stops along the Alcan Highway were approaching highway robbery as they were the only place you could stop for gas for 100 or so miles, if not longer, also remember the confusion of converting liters to gallons and kilometers to miles......I suck at math, even when I'm cold sober. |
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| [Head banger] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:38:22 AM | |
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us gallon is 3.88 L
dunno the exchange rate
funny, we had a different gallon, which was bigger.
if the dollar is close to yours, which I think its within 5% we are getting screwed. damn taxes
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:36:04 AM)| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | What's the exchange rate and conversion to gallons ? Too many beers for math right now.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | $1.33 here
of course thats canadian dollars and liters, dunno, dont want to do that math. probably more than anywhere in the states, it usualy is.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:36:04 AM | |
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What's the exchange rate and conversion to gallons ? Too many beers for math right now.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:34:17 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | $1.33 here
of course thats canadian dollars and liters, dunno, dont want to do that math. probably more than anywhere in the states, it usualy is.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [Head banger] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:34:17 AM | |
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$1.33 here
of course thats canadian dollars and liters, dunno, dont want to do that math. probably more than anywhere in the states, it usualy is.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:27:51 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:30:49 AM | |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:28:53 AM | |
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Last tank I filled was $4.59 a gallon.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:24:42 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | Just to change the subject for an equally sensitive issue:
What is a gallon of gas costing everybody out there?
(in Central Oregon I'm paying about $4.30 a gallon which is about 25c above the national average) |
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| [DemonCat] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:28:10 AM | |
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OK...now that I can't hear a word anyone's typing LOL. Yes that's one way to look at it. One life, and you've got to live it up, stand tall cuz you're young, and kinda proud. ect ect ect.
It certainly simplifies things, and gets you through one thing to the next.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:13:14 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | You're right. There's only one life... gotta live it up, right?
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | It's best to let little things like that go Vail. Life's short, and she won't always be there. One day you may find youself looking back, and when you do...be thankful that she even listened, or read something that means so much to you. That's one way to make it a positive instead of a negative for you. Maybe you won't get so mad next time as a result, and may even see the humor, or whatever it is from her point of view. Most important is that you do have moments with her like that, which will build up memories. Some people don't even have that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Yeah, although I sometimes get too worked up and get mad if she makes fun of something important during a song (lyrically, most of the time). Its a little flaw of mine I still need to work on.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:27:51 AM | |
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Its alright!! It does get kind of hard to identify people in cyberspace at times.
Anyway, gas prices in SoCal are in the $4.50s and above. Not a great time to drive.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:22:33 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:25:38 AM | |
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Don't sweat it. We've all made the same mistake at one time or another. It's a bitch not being able to see someone's expresssions or hear the intonation of their voice. We all step in the poop sooner or later and as soon as we clean it off we seem to step in it again ! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:22:33 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:24:42 AM | |
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Just to change the subject for an equally sensitive issue:
What is a gallon of gas costing everybody out there?
(in Central Oregon I'm paying about $4.30 a gallon which is about 25c above the national average) |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:23:42 AM | |
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Ahhhh. Let it go. If nothing else, you meet a lot of people and learn what you DON'T like. At best . . . . . .
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:20:08 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Nope. I'm a girl with an "uptightness" problem.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I had a nice shoulder-length 'do until about 2000 when my "inferior genetics" (thanks Mom) took over and it was either cut it short or apply to Colonial Williamsburg to play Ben Franklin. I keep it short these days but just can't quite bring myself to go "chrome dome" quite yet. (I really, really miss my hair.)
Is Vaillant suffering from lady trouble? If so, I feel for ya bro, 2 failed marriages under my belt and at 40 it isn't exactly getting easier to find Miss Right. Had a fantastic date with a great gal about 2 weeks ago, one of the best dates I think I've ever had, was really crazy about her but she let me know on no uncertain terms she didn't have those kind of feelings for me. So I can relate. I still search against all odds for Miss Right. Love sucks sometimes......(oh well, we were 200 miles apart anyway. Long-distance never seems to work for me.) |
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| [Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:22:33 AM | |
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| Vail, please forgive me if I have said anything here that could be insensitive, etc. Here in cyber space sometimes it's hard to sort out genders, orientations, etc. So forgive me for any case of mistaken identity. I can relate if your having trouble regarding affairs of the heart. I've had mine kicked in many times. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you you have my sympathies. |
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| [DemonCat] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:20:11 AM | |
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Keep this up, and I'm going to have to pop Screaming for Vengence in my CD player! Heeeeelllllllllll yeah! brb
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:15:08 AM)| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | Nice ! Bit of schoolin' for us. I guess we've all got another thing comin', heh ? 
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | You're right. There's only one life... gotta live it up, right?
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | It's best to let little things like that go Vail. Life's short, and she won't always be there. One day you may find youself looking back, and when you do...be thankful that she even listened, or read something that means so much to you. That's one way to make it a positive instead of a negative for you. Maybe you won't get so mad next time as a result, and may even see the humor, or whatever it is from her point of view. Most important is that you do have moments with her like that, which will build up memories. Some people don't even have that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Yeah, although I sometimes get too worked up and get mad if she makes fun of something important during a song (lyrically, most of the time). Its a little flaw of mine I still need to work on.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:20:08 AM | |
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Nope. I'm a girl with an "uptightness" problem.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:14:16 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I had a nice shoulder-length 'do until about 2000 when my "inferior genetics" (thanks Mom) took over and it was either cut it short or apply to Colonial Williamsburg to play Ben Franklin. I keep it short these days but just can't quite bring myself to go "chrome dome" quite yet. (I really, really miss my hair.)
Is Vaillant suffering from lady trouble? If so, I feel for ya bro, 2 failed marriages under my belt and at 40 it isn't exactly getting easier to find Miss Right. Had a fantastic date with a great gal about 2 weeks ago, one of the best dates I think I've ever had, was really crazy about her but she let me know on no uncertain terms she didn't have those kind of feelings for me. So I can relate. I still search against all odds for Miss Right. Love sucks sometimes......(oh well, we were 200 miles apart anyway. Long-distance never seems to work for me.) |
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| [Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:19:23 AM | |
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Yes, I am a male (last time I checked anyway).......yup, still there.
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:18:43 AM | |
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Where to start ? As for the hair, I choose to go down with dignity. If some of my personal heroes ( Rob Halford, Mark Martin, etc. ) can handle it so can I.
As for Vail, unless there is something she hasn't mentioned to me ( and that's entirely posible ) I don't think there is lady trouble, but only she can answer that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:14:16 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I had a nice shoulder-length 'do until about 2000 when my "inferior genetics" (thanks Mom) took over and it was either cut it short or apply to Colonial Williamsburg to play Ben Franklin. I keep it short these days but just can't quite bring myself to go "chrome dome" quite yet. (I really, really miss my hair.)
Is Vaillant suffering from lady trouble? If so, I feel for ya bro, 2 failed marriages under my belt and at 40 it isn't exactly getting easier to find Miss Right. Had a fantastic date with a great gal about 2 weeks ago, one of the best dates I think I've ever had, was really crazy about her but she let me know on no uncertain terms she didn't have those kind of feelings for me. So I can relate. I still search against all odds for Miss Right. Love sucks sometimes......(oh well, we were 200 miles apart anyway. Long-distance never seems to work for me.) |
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| [DemonCat] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:16:18 AM | |
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Please excuse me a moment Vail for this next comment please.
I'm assuming we're talking about baldness? Also assuming Tephra Rising's a male. Let me tell you what my teacher said to me one day that may make you feel better. He was proud of his baldness, because he blamed it on his wife rubbing his head while he ate her out over all the years!
Yeah he was a cool person, and my favorite teacher. The same teacher who saw Led Zeppelin open for The Who back in the early 70's. |
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:15:08 AM | |
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Nice ! Bit of schoolin' for us. I guess we've all got another thing comin', heh ?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:13:14 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | You're right. There's only one life... gotta live it up, right?
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | It's best to let little things like that go Vail. Life's short, and she won't always be there. One day you may find youself looking back, and when you do...be thankful that she even listened, or read something that means so much to you. That's one way to make it a positive instead of a negative for you. Maybe you won't get so mad next time as a result, and may even see the humor, or whatever it is from her point of view. Most important is that you do have moments with her like that, which will build up memories. Some people don't even have that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Yeah, although I sometimes get too worked up and get mad if she makes fun of something important during a song (lyrically, most of the time). Its a little flaw of mine I still need to work on.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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I had a nice shoulder-length 'do until about 2000 when my "inferior genetics" (thanks Mom) took over and it was either cut it short or apply to Colonial Williamsburg to play Ben Franklin. I keep it short these days but just can't quite bring myself to go "chrome dome" quite yet. (I really, really miss my hair.)
Is Vaillant suffering from lady trouble? If so, I feel for ya bro, 2 failed marriages under my belt and at 40 it isn't exactly getting easier to find Miss Right. Had a fantastic date with a great gal about 2 weeks ago, one of the best dates I think I've ever had, was really crazy about her but she let me know on no uncertain terms she didn't have those kind of feelings for me. So I can relate. I still search against all odds for Miss Right. Love sucks sometimes......(oh well, we were 200 miles apart anyway. Long-distance never seems to work for me.) |
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You're right. There's only one life... gotta live it up, right?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:07:40 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | It's best to let little things like that go Vail. Life's short, and she won't always be there. One day you may find youself looking back, and when you do...be thankful that she even listened, or read something that means so much to you. That's one way to make it a positive instead of a negative for you. Maybe you won't get so mad next time as a result, and may even see the humor, or whatever it is from her point of view. Most important is that you do have moments with her like that, which will build up memories. Some people don't even have that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Yeah, although I sometimes get too worked up and get mad if she makes fun of something important during a song (lyrically, most of the time). Its a little flaw of mine I still need to work on.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:10:15 AM | |
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Ha ! Got the same "hair affliction" myself. If nothing else, after having it halfway down my back, it's so much less trouble !
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:07:21 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | No worries, DC. Actually I was only poking mild fun, I thought Rob actually looked really cool with his mullet, although I think I liked him best with the British Steel "Living After Midnight" shoulder-length 'do (a style I emulated myself for a while in high school). I suffer Rob's same affliction these days but haven't broken down and shaved it all off yet.......did I mention I'm not only the Hair Club President I'm also a member!!!???
Don't worry about Dokken. I have found in the metal world you either love 'em or hate 'em. I will say for the record that out of all the "hair bands" (Poison, Warrant, etc.), I found Dokken to be more concerned with the actual music they were playing and not how much lipstick and hairspray you had on. |
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It's best to let little things like that go Vail. Life's short, and she won't always be there. One day you may find youself looking back, and when you do...be thankful that she even listened, or read something that means so much to you. That's one way to make it a positive instead of a negative for you. Maybe you won't get so mad next time as a result, and may even see the humor, or whatever it is from her point of view. Most important is that you do have moments with her like that, which will build up memories. Some people don't even have that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:58:50 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Yeah, although I sometimes get too worked up and get mad if she makes fun of something important during a song (lyrically, most of the time). Its a little flaw of mine I still need to work on.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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No worries, DC. Actually I was only poking mild fun, I thought Rob actually looked really cool with his mullet, although I think I liked him best with the British Steel "Living After Midnight" shoulder-length 'do (a style I emulated myself for a while in high school). I suffer Rob's same affliction these days but haven't broken down and shaved it all off yet.......did I mention I'm not only the Hair Club President I'm also a member!!!???
Don't worry about Dokken. I have found in the metal world you either love 'em or hate 'em. I will say for the record that out of all the "hair bands" (Poison, Warrant, etc.), I found Dokken to be more concerned with the actual music they were playing and not how much lipstick and hairspray you had on. |
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The songs weren't the greatest when compared to Priest or Queensryche, but the guitar playing and that nasty violent sound George got just captured me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:03:52 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You're gonna lose me talking about Dokken. Never got into them, and Rob's mullet was one of his best hairstyles IMO, but don't let my opinions discourage you from continuing. I respect anyones opinion, and you'll just have to excuse my ignorance about Dokken.
| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I don't know if you've had the chance to listen to the latest Dokken CD which was released last month. It's called "Lightning Strikes Again" and it's fucking incredible. Dokken back and firing on all cylinders. I must have listened to it 100 times and it sounds just like they did 20 years ago. Lynch isn't in the lineup anymore (too many pissing contests with Don, I suspect) but their current axe man can play just like Lynch and the riffs will bring him to mind. I imagine that's an easier thing to do than replace Don, but then again this band was always Don's baby. Oh those rock star egos. What is one to do???
Vaillant already knows my story of Priest with Don Dokken opening that I caught on the Painkiller tour in Alaska in 1991. I think Priest/Ryche 3 years ago is about the closest one to that. Another spectacular concert.
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You're gonna lose me talking about Dokken. Never got into them, and Rob's mullet was one of his best hairstyles IMO, but don't let my opinions discourage you from continuing. I respect anyones opinion, and you'll just have to excuse my ignorance about Dokken.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:58:46 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I don't know if you've had the chance to listen to the latest Dokken CD which was released last month. It's called "Lightning Strikes Again" and it's fucking incredible. Dokken back and firing on all cylinders. I must have listened to it 100 times and it sounds just like they did 20 years ago. Lynch isn't in the lineup anymore (too many pissing contests with Don, I suspect) but their current axe man can play just like Lynch and the riffs will bring him to mind. I imagine that's an easier thing to do than replace Don, but then again this band was always Don's baby. Oh those rock star egos. What is one to do???
Vaillant already knows my story of Priest with Don Dokken opening that I caught on the Painkiller tour in Alaska in 1991. I think Priest/Ryche 3 years ago is about the closest one to that. Another spectacular concert.
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True it was Don's baby, but Don got his deal in Germany and had to actually get a talented band to keep it. He really should have been more open to the band's input as Don's ideas got pretty dated quick.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:58:46 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | I don't know if you've had the chance to listen to the latest Dokken CD which was released last month. It's called "Lightning Strikes Again" and it's fucking incredible. Dokken back and firing on all cylinders. I must have listened to it 100 times and it sounds just like they did 20 years ago. Lynch isn't in the lineup anymore (too many pissing contests with Don, I suspect) but their current axe man can play just like Lynch and the riffs will bring him to mind. I imagine that's an easier thing to do than replace Don, but then again this band was always Don's baby. Oh those rock star egos. What is one to do???
Vaillant already knows my story of Priest with Don Dokken opening that I caught on the Painkiller tour in Alaska in 1991. I think Priest/Ryche 3 years ago is about the closest one to that. Another spectacular concert.
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Yeah, although I sometimes get too worked up and get mad if she makes fun of something important during a song (lyrically, most of the time). Its a little flaw of mine I still need to work on.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:53:19 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I don't know if you've had the chance to listen to the latest Dokken CD which was released last month. It's called "Lightning Strikes Again" and it's fucking incredible. Dokken back and firing on all cylinders. I must have listened to it 100 times and it sounds just like they did 20 years ago. Lynch isn't in the lineup anymore (too many pissing contests with Don, I suspect) but their current axe man can play just like Lynch and the riffs will bring him to mind. I imagine that's an easier thing to do than replace Don, but then again this band was always Don's baby. Oh those rock star egos. What is one to do???
Vaillant already knows my story of Priest with Don Dokken opening that I caught on the Painkiller tour in Alaska in 1991. I think Priest/Ryche 3 years ago is about the closest one to that. Another spectacular concert.
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:49:54 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Hey Vaillant and DC, I wondered if it's too late for me to jump into this discussion regarding the Mighty Ryche which is in my top 3 metal favorites (Dokken in a head-on tie with Priest always, always being #1). I was born in Seattle and so grew up with Queensryche. Matter of fact I got to see Geoff and Co. open for Priest in Vancouver WA during the AOR tour in 2005. What a show!!!! Also can relate to parents not relating to my love of metal. My dad (now passed on) once declared that I would "outgrow" Priest and metal by the time I was 20. I'm 40 now. I love Priest and metal more than ever. |
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Oh shit, if you're bringin' the mighty George Lynch ( aka THE MAN ) into the convo, you're never too late.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:49:54 AM)| | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | | Hey Vaillant and DC, I wondered if it's too late for me to jump into this discussion regarding the Mighty Ryche which is in my top 3 metal favorites (Dokken in a head-on tie with Priest always, always being #1). I was born in Seattle and so grew up with Queensryche. Matter of fact I got to see Geoff and Co. open for Priest in Vancouver WA during the AOR tour in 2005. What a show!!!! Also can relate to parents not relating to my love of metal. My dad (now passed on) once declared that I would "outgrow" Priest and metal by the time I was 20. I'm 40 now. I love Priest and metal more than ever. |
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Then it's a special thing between the two of you, and a good thing!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:42:28 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
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Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
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I just wish I could have seen that. I may not even be able to catch this Priest tour. Money is tight and business is down. We are just circling the wagons and trying to ride it out.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:46:42 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Geoff Tate was always my 2nd favorite heavy metal vocalist for that very reason. That's why see Queensryche open for Judas Priest last tour was soooooo special to me.
It brought me to a memory I had with my favorite teacher. He had seen Led Zeppelin open for the Who. I was envious at the time, and have since dismissed such feelings from my life. However, I have now had what I believe to be an equal experience as a result!
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | Yes, and dare I say, one of the only vocalists to actually approach Rob's range and abilities.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | One of my favorite albums...oops CDs. LOL
I've always said Queensryche was "thinking mans" heavy metal. Most people don't understand it, yet it seems they did, and still put it down. Sad IMO.
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | That can be frustrating. I had a similar experience when I tried to share Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime" with my parents. They called it "subversive counter culture paranoia". As you can tell by the fact that I remember that, it left an impression. I had always thought my parents were more intelligent and open than that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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Geoff Tate was always my 2nd favorite heavy metal vocalist for that very reason. That's why see Queensryche open for Judas Priest last tour was soooooo special to me.
It brought me to a memory I had with my favorite teacher. He had seen Led Zeppelin open for the Who. I was envious at the time, and have since dismissed such feelings from my life. However, I have now had what I believe to be an equal experience as a result!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:40:31 AM)| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | Yes, and dare I say, one of the only vocalists to actually approach Rob's range and abilities.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | One of my favorite albums...oops CDs. LOL
I've always said Queensryche was "thinking mans" heavy metal. Most people don't understand it, yet it seems they did, and still put it down. Sad IMO.
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | That can be frustrating. I had a similar experience when I tried to share Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime" with my parents. They called it "subversive counter culture paranoia". As you can tell by the fact that I remember that, it left an impression. I had always thought my parents were more intelligent and open than that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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I do that sometimes too, making fun of little quirks in the music she hears. We do that to each other every once in a while as our strange way of bonding.
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
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I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
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Yes, and dare I say, one of the only vocalists to actually approach Rob's range and abilities.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:37:33 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | One of my favorite albums...oops CDs. LOL
I've always said Queensryche was "thinking mans" heavy metal. Most people don't understand it, yet it seems they did, and still put it down. Sad IMO.
| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | That can be frustrating. I had a similar experience when I tried to share Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime" with my parents. They called it "subversive counter culture paranoia". As you can tell by the fact that I remember that, it left an impression. I had always thought my parents were more intelligent and open than that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [TIMBONI] Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:39:06 AM | |
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Good advice my friend. No reason to drift apart without a real reason. She may have thought she was being funny. Unfortunately, it may have just been bad timing is all.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:35:28 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [DemonCat] Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:37:33 AM | |
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One of my favorite albums...oops CDs. LOL
I've always said Queensryche was "thinking mans" heavy metal. Most people don't understand it, yet it seems they did, and still put it down. Sad IMO.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by TIMBONI from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:31:03 AM)| | | TIMBONI wrote: | | That can be frustrating. I had a similar experience when I tried to share Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime" with my parents. They called it "subversive counter culture paranoia". As you can tell by the fact that I remember that, it left an impression. I had always thought my parents were more intelligent and open than that.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [DemonCat] Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:35:28 AM | |
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Maybe it's one of those things where she saw the seriousness of it, and threw out some sarcasm. Try to look at it that way, and see if it that's not what it was. Then maybe you can appreciate it better, and share more. I may be stepping out of bounds here, and be dead wrong, but it's better to share what's important to you w/her, than to drift apart, from a misunderstanding.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:24:17 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:32:27 AM | |
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True.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:28:20 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | On the latter part of your post Vail. Yes, that's what my life/relationship w/my son's been all about. Connecting on a level that's relevant to both of us. I can also say it's part of a good marriage, or frindship. Years change people, but it's important to keep some things in common, while expecting the changes life in general puts each of us through.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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That can be frustrating. I had a similar experience when I tried to share Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime" with my parents. They called it "subversive counter culture paranoia". As you can tell by the fact that I remember that, it left an impression. I had always thought my parents were more intelligent and open than that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:24:17 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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On the latter part of your post Vail. Yes, that's what my life/relationship w/my son's been all about. Connecting on a level that's relevant to both of us. I can also say it's part of a good marriage, or frindship. Years change people, but it's important to keep some things in common, while expecting the changes life in general puts each of us through.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:10:09 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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She knows English pretty well despite being from Mexico, so she understood the lyrics. Only problem is she likes to poke fun at anything that's supposed to be serious. Its one reason why I don't share most of my music with her.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:18:02 AM)| | | DemonCat wrote: | | You may do better by showing her the lyrics. At least that's how I connected w/my mom w/Ozzy's Miracle Man. She'd seen the story on the news, and I shared Ozzys funny poke at them. It was certainly "a moment".
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I think my mom is pretty tolerant to it, but she wouldn't hear it on a daily basis. She allows me to listen to what I like, as long as I do well in school. I only showed her Nostradamus CD because she knew about the prophet and thought he was very wise. If anything, she made fun of one of the songs.
As far as having something in common with your son at that level, I think its great!! The more you have in common with your son the more you two can bond, IMO.
| | | DemonCat wrote: | | Is your mom usually hip to heavy metal? I mean...I know my son thinks I'm a cool dad, and he also understands that I'm still his parent, and NOT his friend, but we have a blast so far together in life with each others company. That's been very important to me...that I could identify with him in whatever he may be going through. Am I taking that to a more intense level? Is it too much?
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | I'll ask her in a little bit. She's in the living room watching a Mission Impossible movie en Español. (Quoting Message by DemonCat from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:57:48 PM)
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