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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 4:49:54 AM
Thoughts? Of course. Its pretty quite simple Guido,lets face it...Saxon's quality of music in the 1980's was nowhere near the "kick ass factor" that Judas Priest had,and Iron Maiden "had"....with albums like Unleashed In The East,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith(1979 - 1984) and Iron Maiden 1980 debut ,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave......and Motorhead's Bomber,Ace Of Spades,Iron Fist albums....
These albums in my opinion and many others were and are better than Saxon's first 5 studio albums from thier debut album "Saxon" in 1979,Wheels Of Steel 1980,Strong Arm Of The Law,Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory(1983.)
Sure these Saxon albums are cool yes,but they are not as "good" as the other band's albums,they are just not and then you had Saxon's image,it spanked of "cheese" and they looked silly.They just couldn't top Priest,Maiden and Motorhead. That is "why" Guido but the dagger for Saxon was in 1984 with thier 6th studio album "Crusader" ...sure the song 'Crusader" is total classic Saxon and is one hell of a kick ass song and I mean that,but the rest of the entire album "sucked balls" and they went "glam" with the rest of the album's sound and the band's image,it just sucked.
Then they did Innosence Is No Excuse in 1985 and that album full blown "sucked",it is utterly terrible.Then in 1986 they did the shitty "Rock The Nations" album with the same glam crap,then again in 1988 with "Destiny". So from 1984 to 1989 they killed themselves out of the scene they were really never able to uphold popularity in,in the first place and rightfully so with those shitty albums.
Even if they didn't go "glam" and kept putting out albums like Wheels Of Steel with old guitarist Grahm Oliver they still wouldn't of been in the same quality elite group of Judas Priest,Iron Maiden and Motorhead obviously.
Although in 1990 and 1992 with Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free albums they were only half good and still didn't harness a "kick ass factor". It wasn't untill 1995 that Saxon started "kicking some ass" and they released Dogs Of War with 10 tracks,7 of them kick ass,3 were glammy left-overs but they were headed in the right direction. Then in 1997 the Unleash The Beast album totally kicked ass man,again with Metalhead album in 99' then Killing Ground,Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum and Into The Labyrinth(2009)....
I belive if Saxon would of been putting these albums out in the early 80's with the band's now-a-days image of black cloths and leather jackets ect....I think they would of "took off" a little bit more Guido...no not as much and not as popular as Judas Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but yeah I really think that they would of taken flight a little more with the metal fans of the 1980's back then.
Imagine if Lionheart was released in 1983 with the band's current image,next to albums like Piece of Mind,Sceaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Iron Fist...ect...it would of made a much bigger impression with metal fans....again they still wouldn't be as "popular" as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but it would of been much more exposure for them back then. I was being a smart ass when I said Priest should take lessons from Saxon,but I still belive that because of how Saxon puts out an album every 2 years man!! lol!
Not to mention,yes Judas Priest is better than Saxon obviously and yes they are my favorite band but Saxon has been so,so much more "consistant" with "quality" releases of studio albums these last 15 years,they actually wipe up the floor with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden with "quality" studio albums these last 15 years except for Angel Of Retibution which is just as good as Saxon's last 7 studio albums,better in some cases.
Its a shame that Saxon are really not heard of these days,they deserve so much more yet they NEVER complain about any of this,they just love what they are doing and keep British Heavy Metal alive with thier brand of hard rock and heavy metal. Anybody who thinks they are not worthy,I'd challenge them to watch and listen to the Wacken concert 2001 in Germany that they headlined with about 30 or 40 thousand heavy metal fans ,thats in the Saxon Chronicles DVD,check it out Guido.
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[Becks] Friday, October 29, 2010 12:05:00 AM
I agree totally Spa. Considering Priest were hitting their stride before I was born, I am forever grateful that they are still around producing heavy metal. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:28:38 PM)
spapad wrote:
Rob has got to rest at some time too, or should. So six months beyond the end of the Halford tour they might get in the studio. If you think about it, most bands when they reach "maturity" don't put out as many albums as they used to, IF they do at all! We all should be happy that JP is still around and delivering the goods. I do hope for a more traditional album next time and I'm sure they will give us a beauty. For the Faithful!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:20:00 PM
You, sir, are a "neo-maxi-zoom-dweebie!" BWWAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:09:13 PM)
Head banger wrote:
like totaly dude...
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:09:13 PM
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[spapad] Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:28:38 PM
Rob has got to rest at some time too, or should. So six months beyond the end of the Halford tour they might get in the studio. If you think about it, most bands when they reach "maturity" don't put out as many albums as they used to, IF they do at all! We all should be happy that JP is still around and delivering the goods. I do hope for a more traditional album next time and I'm sure they will give us a beauty. For the Faithful! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:27:12 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:27:12 PM
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:37:07 PM
well, anything that gets us a new disc. I wish I liked nost, but still thats priest albums in 20 years. the solo stuff by Rob, Glen, other bands that Scott worked with are not priest. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
At the risk of upsetting your Beiber worship (heh), I would also prefer that they not take lessons from him either. While I don't have much of a comment on the Ripper-era albums, some of us really appreciate Nostra and hardly consider it a "useless" recording. Throw the Halford / solo albums in there and the ratio years = production goes even higher.
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM
At the risk of upsetting your Beiber worship (heh), I would also prefer that they not take lessons from him either. While I don't have much of a comment on the Ripper-era albums, some of us really appreciate Nostra and hardly consider it a "useless" recording. Throw the Halford / solo albums in there and the ratio years = production goes even higher. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
[hellrider 31038] Friday, October 15, 2010 4:19:53 PM
I THINK YOU BETTER DISPOSE THAT BAD GREEN YOU GOT MAN.THE MOST INTENSE JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL IS COMING MAN.YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME PREPARING YOURSELF BEFORE IT WAMOS (BLAST)YOU IN THE FACE
I wasn't there and I wasn't discussing him. I was merely trying to compliment you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:22:10 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Excuse me Buderd but have you checked the Iron Maiden thread lately?? He has no problem speaking his mind there. lmao
Here's some nice guitar work by Saxon:
Budred wrote:
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
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[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:22:10 PM
Excuse me Buderd but have you checked the Iron Maiden thread lately?? He has no problem speaking his mind there. lmao
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
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[metallo] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:04:08 PM
Great band. They was my second heavy metal concert in 1982 (the first was Motorhead in 1981), It was in Rome and we were 12.000 fans. They are, in my opinion really one of the best band of ever. Some very good albums, some less as for all the bands, but they was together with Priest and Maiden the gotha of NWOBHM and still they are.
The eagle has landed,... but taken off again and again for a never ending flight
[Budred] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:23:15 PM
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
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[Painkiller87] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:04:19 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:11 PM
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
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