Becks, I agree with you. Point of Entry is underated. There are some lame songs on there like, "Don't Go" and "Troubleshooter" but I love "Solar Angels" and about all the other songs on it! That album came out when stereos that were sufisticated could start to be bought by the masses, and the beginning of that song just sent chills down my spine!

		Becks wrote:
		I think Point of Entry is a very underrated album to tell the truth. It's great fun to listen to! LOL!      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: You guys HAVE to be kidding right? Wow...you guys think "Point Of Entry" is worse than "Turbo"?  WOW. Heading Out To The Highway Hot Rockin' Turning Circles Desert Plains Solar Angels On The Run Those 6 tracks blow away Turbo so far out of the water it is not even close in my opinion. The only 3 tracks off Turbo I can stand are Out In The Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless and even those songs are nowhere near the quality of these 6 tracks off of P.O.E....the rest of the songs on Turbo are garbage. The 4 songs on P.O.E. that suck are Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way and Trouble Shooter. Turbo has way more shit songs.    (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:36:08 AM)   JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Finally someone sees it from my point too! Yes POE was their weakest i agree with that cause i mean i aint gonna lie i love a lot of songs on Turbo, Locked in is one of my all time favourites! I would have loved to see them on that tour too like on The DVD Electric eye, the stage looked amazing and they were on top form with a full arena thousands of fans too oh man why couldn't i have been around in the 80s? Yes i would say Nostradamus is one of my most listened to albums too, i can't explain why but it is i, like you like a lot of songs on that album. I have also been through that unstoppable phase of listening to The Ripper era. I love Jugulator and Priest have never sounded heavier (would have been better with Halford though for sure). I believe there should be different genres for every time of the year and it shouldn't matter what the topic is if the music is good. Halford always manages to bring out something that is missing. Ressurection was a return to pure heavy metal, Crucible well that was an experimental album for sure but it paid off, the title track is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time (despite the intro Park Manor). Get into the Spirit rocks hard and i look forward to the rest of the album!      guardian angel wrote:   I have to say I feel the same way.  There are great songs on virtually every album Priest has made, and some duds too.  I think the weakest offering was Point Of Entry, though I love Heading out to the Highway and Solar Angels.  It has a different feel to it.  More Arizona, than British steel mill.  I personally like that they have the balls to try new things and not get stuck in the AC/DC every album sounds the same rutt.  Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC too, but throw in any album, it doesn't matter.  You'll get the same sound.  I came on board during Defenders of the Faith, and that is my most listened to album/cassette & CD.  Oddly, next most listened to is Nostradamus.  I like it.  Not every song, but most of them.  I also love Sad Wings & Sin after Sin, Screaming, etc etc.  Every offering has something awesome on it.  As for Winter Songs, I like what I've heard, and Rob can sing about toast and I'd likely love him more, but quite frankly, we need to have some metal over the holidays.  It can't all be Bing Crosby, Madonna's Santa Baby, and the church versions.  THANKS Rob for filling the void!        JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic. Edited at: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:02:52 PM Edited at: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:04:02 PM

Becks, I agree with you. Point of Entry is underated. There are some lame songs on there like, "Don't Go" and "Troubleshooter" but I love "Solar Angels" and about all the other songs on it! That album came out when stereos that were sufisticated could start to be bought by the masses, and the beginning of that song just sent chills down my spine!

		Becks wrote:
		I think Point of Entry is a very underrated album to tell the truth. It's great fun to listen to! LOL!      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: You guys HAVE to be kidding right? Wow...you guys think "Point Of Entry" is worse than "Turbo"?  WOW. Heading Out To The Highway Hot Rockin' Turning Circles Desert Plains Solar Angels On The Run Those 6 tracks blow away Turbo so far out of the water it is not even close in my opinion. The only 3 tracks off Turbo I can stand are Out In The Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless and even those songs are nowhere near the quality of these 6 tracks off of P.O.E....the rest of the songs on Turbo are garbage. The 4 songs on P.O.E. that suck are Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way and Trouble Shooter. Turbo has way more shit songs.    (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:36:08 AM)   JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Finally someone sees it from my point too! Yes POE was their weakest i agree with that cause i mean i aint gonna lie i love a lot of songs on Turbo, Locked in is one of my all time favourites! I would have loved to see them on that tour too like on The DVD Electric eye, the stage looked amazing and they were on top form with a full arena thousands of fans too oh man why couldn't i have been around in the 80s? Yes i would say Nostradamus is one of my most listened to albums too, i can't explain why but it is i, like you like a lot of songs on that album. I have also been through that unstoppable phase of listening to The Ripper era. I love Jugulator and Priest have never sounded heavier (would have been better with Halford though for sure). I believe there should be different genres for every time of the year and it shouldn't matter what the topic is if the music is good. Halford always manages to bring out something that is missing. Ressurection was a return to pure heavy metal, Crucible well that was an experimental album for sure but it paid off, the title track is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time (despite the intro Park Manor). Get into the Spirit rocks hard and i look forward to the rest of the album!      guardian angel wrote:   I have to say I feel the same way.  There are great songs on virtually every album Priest has made, and some duds too.  I think the weakest offering was Point Of Entry, though I love Heading out to the Highway and Solar Angels.  It has a different feel to it.  More Arizona, than British steel mill.  I personally like that they have the balls to try new things and not get stuck in the AC/DC every album sounds the same rutt.  Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC too, but throw in any album, it doesn't matter.  You'll get the same sound.  I came on board during Defenders of the Faith, and that is my most listened to album/cassette & CD.  Oddly, next most listened to is Nostradamus.  I like it.  Not every song, but most of them.  I also love Sad Wings & Sin after Sin, Screaming, etc etc.  Every offering has something awesome on it.  As for Winter Songs, I like what I've heard, and Rob can sing about toast and I'd likely love him more, but quite frankly, we need to have some metal over the holidays.  It can't all be Bing Crosby, Madonna's Santa Baby, and the church versions.  THANKS Rob for filling the void!        JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic. Edited at: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:02:52 PM Edited at: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:04:02 PM

You guys HAVE to be kidding right? Wow...you guys think "Point Of Entry" is worse than "Turbo"?  WOW.

Heading Out To The Highway
Hot Rockin'
Turning Circles
Desert Plains
Solar Angels
On The Run

Those 6 tracks blow away Turbo so far out of the water it is not even close in my opinion. The only 3 tracks off Turbo I can stand are Out In The Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless and even those songs are nowhere near the quality of these 6 tracks off of P.O.E....the rest of the songs on Turbo are garbage. The 4 songs on P.O.E. that suck are Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way and Trouble Shooter. Turbo has way more shit songs.

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		Finally someone sees it from my point too! Yes POE was their weakest i agree with that cause i mean i aint gonna lie i love a lot of songs on Turbo, Locked in is one of my all time favourites! I would have loved to see them on that tour too like on The DVD Electric eye, the stage looked amazing and they were on top form with a full arena thousands of fans too oh man why couldn't i have been around in the 80s? Yes i would say Nostradamus is one of my most listened to albums too, i can't explain why but it is i, like you like a lot of songs on that album. I have also been through that unstoppable phase of listening to The Ripper era. I love Jugulator and Priest have never sounded heavier (would have been better with Halford though for sure). I believe there should be different genres for every time of the year and it shouldn't matter what the topic is if the music is good. Halford always manages to bring out something that is missing. Ressurection was a return to pure heavy metal, Crucible well that was an experimental album for sure but it paid off, the title track is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time (despite the intro Park Manor). Get into the Spirit rocks hard and i look forward to the rest of the album!      guardian angel wrote:   I have to say I feel the same way.  There are great songs on virtually every album Priest has made, and some duds too.  I think the weakest offering was Point Of Entry, though I love Heading out to the Highway and Solar Angels.  It has a different feel to it.  More Arizona, than British steel mill.  I personally like that they have the balls to try new things and not get stuck in the AC/DC every album sounds the same rutt.  Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC too, but throw in any album, it doesn't matter.  You'll get the same sound.  I came on board during Defenders of the Faith, and that is my most listened to album/cassette & CD.  Oddly, next most listened to is Nostradamus.  I like it.  Not every song, but most of them.  I also love Sad Wings & Sin after Sin, Screaming, etc etc.  Every offering has something awesome on it.  As for Winter Songs, I like what I've heard, and Rob can sing about toast and I'd likely love him more, but quite frankly, we need to have some metal over the holidays.  It can't all be Bing Crosby, Madonna's Santa Baby, and the church versions.  THANKS Rob for filling the void!        JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic.

You guys HAVE to be kidding right? Wow...you guys think "Point Of Entry" is worse than "Turbo"?  WOW.

Heading Out To The Highway
Hot Rockin'
Turning Circles
Desert Plains
Solar Angels
On The Run

Those 6 tracks blow away Turbo so far out of the water it is not even close in my opinion. The only 3 tracks off Turbo I can stand are Out In The Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless and even those songs are nowhere near the quality of these 6 tracks off of P.O.E....the rest of the songs on Turbo are garbage. The 4 songs on P.O.E. that suck are Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way and Trouble Shooter. Turbo has way more shit songs.

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		Finally someone sees it from my point too! Yes POE was their weakest i agree with that cause i mean i aint gonna lie i love a lot of songs on Turbo, Locked in is one of my all time favourites! I would have loved to see them on that tour too like on The DVD Electric eye, the stage looked amazing and they were on top form with a full arena thousands of fans too oh man why couldn't i have been around in the 80s? Yes i would say Nostradamus is one of my most listened to albums too, i can't explain why but it is i, like you like a lot of songs on that album. I have also been through that unstoppable phase of listening to The Ripper era. I love Jugulator and Priest have never sounded heavier (would have been better with Halford though for sure). I believe there should be different genres for every time of the year and it shouldn't matter what the topic is if the music is good. Halford always manages to bring out something that is missing. Ressurection was a return to pure heavy metal, Crucible well that was an experimental album for sure but it paid off, the title track is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time (despite the intro Park Manor). Get into the Spirit rocks hard and i look forward to the rest of the album!      guardian angel wrote:   I have to say I feel the same way.  There are great songs on virtually every album Priest has made, and some duds too.  I think the weakest offering was Point Of Entry, though I love Heading out to the Highway and Solar Angels.  It has a different feel to it.  More Arizona, than British steel mill.  I personally like that they have the balls to try new things and not get stuck in the AC/DC every album sounds the same rutt.  Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC too, but throw in any album, it doesn't matter.  You'll get the same sound.  I came on board during Defenders of the Faith, and that is my most listened to album/cassette & CD.  Oddly, next most listened to is Nostradamus.  I like it.  Not every song, but most of them.  I also love Sad Wings & Sin after Sin, Screaming, etc etc.  Every offering has something awesome on it.  As for Winter Songs, I like what I've heard, and Rob can sing about toast and I'd likely love him more, but quite frankly, we need to have some metal over the holidays.  It can't all be Bing Crosby, Madonna's Santa Baby, and the church versions.  THANKS Rob for filling the void!        JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic.

LOL! Well to be fair,Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way,Trouble Shooter are FAR better than those 6 terrible songs on Turbo:

Turbo Lover
Locked In
Private Property
Parental Guidance
Rock You All Around The World
Hot For Love

YUK!  Sorry Head Banger(lol!) Those 6 songs are equal to the 6 most terrible tracks from Judas Priest whatever they may be.

		Bazooka Joe wrote:
		But I like those 4 other songs on Point of Entry! I hate you!      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: You guys HAVE to be kidding right? Wow...you guys think "Point Of Entry" is worse than "Turbo"?  WOW. Heading Out To The Highway Hot Rockin' Turning Circles Desert Plains Solar Angels On The Run Those 6 tracks blow away Turbo so far out of the water it is not even close in my opinion. The only 3 tracks off Turbo I can stand are Out In The Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless and even those songs are nowhere near the quality of these 6 tracks off of P.O.E....the rest of the songs on Turbo are garbage. The 4 songs on P.O.E. that suck are Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way and Trouble Shooter. Turbo has way more shit songs.    (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:36:08 AM)   JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Finally someone sees it from my point too! Yes POE was their weakest i agree with that cause i mean i aint gonna lie i love a lot of songs on Turbo, Locked in is one of my all time favourites! I would have loved to see them on that tour too like on The DVD Electric eye, the stage looked amazing and they were on top form with a full arena thousands of fans too oh man why couldn't i have been around in the 80s? Yes i would say Nostradamus is one of my most listened to albums too, i can't explain why but it is i, like you like a lot of songs on that album. I have also been through that unstoppable phase of listening to The Ripper era. I love Jugulator and Priest have never sounded heavier (would have been better with Halford though for sure). I believe there should be different genres for every time of the year and it shouldn't matter what the topic is if the music is good. Halford always manages to bring out something that is missing. Ressurection was a return to pure heavy metal, Crucible well that was an experimental album for sure but it paid off, the title track is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time (despite the intro Park Manor). Get into the Spirit rocks hard and i look forward to the rest of the album!      guardian angel wrote:   I have to say I feel the same way.  There are great songs on virtually every album Priest has made, and some duds too.  I think the weakest offering was Point Of Entry, though I love Heading out to the Highway and Solar Angels.  It has a different feel to it.  More Arizona, than British steel mill.  I personally like that they have the balls to try new things and not get stuck in the AC/DC every album sounds the same rutt.  Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC too, but throw in any album, it doesn't matter.  You'll get the same sound.  I came on board during Defenders of the Faith, and that is my most listened to album/cassette & CD.  Oddly, next most listened to is Nostradamus.  I like it.  Not every song, but most of them.  I also love Sad Wings & Sin after Sin, Screaming, etc etc.  Every offering has something awesome on it.  As for Winter Songs, I like what I've heard, and Rob can sing about toast and I'd likely love him more, but quite frankly, we need to have some metal over the holidays.  It can't all be Bing Crosby, Madonna's Santa Baby, and the church versions.  THANKS Rob for filling the void!        JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic. Edited at: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:02:52 PM Edited at: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:04:02 PM

You guys HAVE to be kidding right? Wow...you guys think "Point Of Entry" is worse than "Turbo"?  WOW.

Heading Out To The Highway
Hot Rockin'
Turning Circles
Desert Plains
Solar Angels
On The Run

Those 6 tracks blow away Turbo so far out of the water it is not even close in my opinion. The only 3 tracks off Turbo I can stand are Out In The Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless and even those songs are nowhere near the quality of these 6 tracks off of P.O.E....the rest of the songs on Turbo are garbage. The 4 songs on P.O.E. that suck are Don't Go,You Say Yes,All The Way and Trouble Shooter. Turbo has way more shit songs.

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		Finally someone sees it from my point too! Yes POE was their weakest i agree with that cause i mean i aint gonna lie i love a lot of songs on Turbo, Locked in is one of my all time favourites! I would have loved to see them on that tour too like on The DVD Electric eye, the stage looked amazing and they were on top form with a full arena thousands of fans too oh man why couldn't i have been around in the 80s? Yes i would say Nostradamus is one of my most listened to albums too, i can't explain why but it is i, like you like a lot of songs on that album. I have also been through that unstoppable phase of listening to The Ripper era. I love Jugulator and Priest have never sounded heavier (would have been better with Halford though for sure). I believe there should be different genres for every time of the year and it shouldn't matter what the topic is if the music is good. Halford always manages to bring out something that is missing. Ressurection was a return to pure heavy metal, Crucible well that was an experimental album for sure but it paid off, the title track is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time (despite the intro Park Manor). Get into the Spirit rocks hard and i look forward to the rest of the album!      guardian angel wrote:   I have to say I feel the same way.  There are great songs on virtually every album Priest has made, and some duds too.  I think the weakest offering was Point Of Entry, though I love Heading out to the Highway and Solar Angels.  It has a different feel to it.  More Arizona, than British steel mill.  I personally like that they have the balls to try new things and not get stuck in the AC/DC every album sounds the same rutt.  Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC too, but throw in any album, it doesn't matter.  You'll get the same sound.  I came on board during Defenders of the Faith, and that is my most listened to album/cassette & CD.  Oddly, next most listened to is Nostradamus.  I like it.  Not every song, but most of them.  I also love Sad Wings & Sin after Sin, Screaming, etc etc.  Every offering has something awesome on it.  As for Winter Songs, I like what I've heard, and Rob can sing about toast and I'd likely love him more, but quite frankly, we need to have some metal over the holidays.  It can't all be Bing Crosby, Madonna's Santa Baby, and the church versions.  THANKS Rob for filling the void!        JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   Well maybe not to you no but fans of the album would probably disagree with you. I love every Priest album and they were definately the ones that set the benchmark for metal, i even see the good in Turbo 'Locked In' is one of my favourite all time Priest tracks and so is 'Out in the Cold' in fact i like the whole first half aof the album plus Wreckless. Rather than pick faults with albums which just ruins things, i find the good in all albums and that way i can enjoy whatever i'm listening to and not be disappointed. It's a shame more people here can't think it the same way. Besides sometimes it's the small things that make albums great i bet critics don't go wow, the chorus in 'Future of Mankind' is one of the best that Priest have ever written or wow the guitar playing in 'Nostradamus' (the track) is some of the best they have ever done or wow Halford gives one of the best performances of his entire career on 'Exiled' or wow 'Persecution' is a real heavy mo fo featuring yet again an awesome chorus, or yet wow 'Death' is one of the most evil and atmospheric tracks they have ever written or wow 'Alone' is one of, if not the best ballad they have ever written besides Angel! Rather than finding the gems in something they just brush it off and go bah what a disapointment and i tell you, i bet Priest feel let down by that too cause they poured their heart and soul into that album even if some of the tracks weren't up to 'heavy metal standards'. It doesn't make it bad music that's all i'm saying.      Skybreaker wrote:   You can cut and paste Nostradamus all you want but is still doesn't bring it up to the metal standards they set in the past.      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   The reason people don;t like Nostradamus so much is because it has layers, whereas albums such as Painkiller and Jugulator didn't. It was just power power power etc. Nostradamus is a very diverse album which fetures many different tempos and feelings. Some weren't as powerful as i'd hoped but hey they guys tried. I think if you exclude most of the prologues and a couple of songs and a are left with this: Dawn of creation, Prophecy, Revelations, Pestilence and plague, Death, Conquest, Persecution, Alone, Visions, Calm before the Storn, Nostradamus, Future of Mankind. Now that would have been good. I can share some of your disapontment because i too was when i first heard it but for some reason it still syands to this day as my most listened to album. I obviously pick out my favourites but Hell i genuinely enjoy it. Drums/production could have been more creative/better and some of the lyrics but for the most part they rocked hard. I just thought it was well though out, the emotion and feeling that came out through some of the tracks were overwhelming and i salute them for putting this together. It showed a different side to them that only comes out in tracks from their earliest albums. I think possibly the best allround track would have to be Alone that is a true Priest ballad and classic in my opinion. Nostradamus and Persecution are the heavy ass tracks which i love above many of their well known hits. But still i would like to see a return to good old British Steel! Something with relentless double bass, Strumming heavy riffs with harmonics and thunderous Halford screams although i fear they may be few and far between but still. Give us some good old prime British metal! As for winter songs i will not judge further until i hear the whole album. If the music is good it will get my vote despite the topic.