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I'm not sure of the "proper" way to do it, I just find it funny that a few guys were probably working on that, and it got mispelled. Takes time to place the stencils, I would think. So, maybe the "leader" of the crew was an ass, and all the other guys knew he spelled it wrong, and just sat back and snickered amidst themselves. lol
Bud:
Yes, Bud I did spell lessons wrong, HA!! I spell alot wrong without proof reading. I'm still the only dyslexic transcriptionist I know. LMAO! Couldn't make it up if I tried! lol
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| [Budred] Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:16:52 AM | |
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That brings a little comfort to the mind.(what's left of it)
In front of a school, you'd think someone would have caught that.((trying to) lol)
Hey! No offense, but I just noticed how you spelled lessons (leasons).
I guess we all do it. (no, not like on the discovery channel)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:12:41 PM)| |  | spapad wrote: | | Now that's an easy typo to make Bud, try this one on for size:
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:59:57 PM | |
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Aside from the minor spelling error, should it not stay on one side of the road? the guy coming is leaving the shcool zone probably cant read it, and the people coming probably cant see it all.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:12:41 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Now that's an easy typo to make Bud, try this one on for size:
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| [spapad] Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:56:52 PM | |
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Well, he does have that convienent gap in the middle that would allow such a thing. LOL 
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Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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lol.yeah hey.lol.hopefully he does not smoke.lol.just see it now lighting the cigarette and he sets the brushing on fire.lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:33:07 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Since he is obviously minus a brain............I doubt doing the full stick in the brush would mean too much too him! LOL
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Defenders eh...haha yeah that album smokes. I Just don't like Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down....never have, while Screaming For Vengeance the only 2 songs I don't like are Take These Chains and Fever. Yeah for you Defenders smokes SFV but for me SFV beats Defenders by a nose hair,its very close as both are excellent albums for sure. Now this I can see fans grabbing at both albums.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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Since he is obviously minus a brain............I doubt doing the full stick in the brush would mean too much too him! LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:29:42 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | if it is paintbrushes i wonder if he just cut the end off them or just ramed the whole brushes right up there.lol. (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:20:26 PM)
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Defenders eh...haha yeah that album smokes. I Just don't like Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down....never have, while Screaming For Vengeance the only 2 songs I don't like are Take These Chains and Fever. Yeah for you Defenders smokes SFV but for me SFV beats Defenders by a nose hair,its very close as both are excellent albums for sure. Now this I can see fans grabbing at both albums.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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Defenders eh...haha yeah that album smokes. I Just don't like Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down....never have, while Screaming For Vengeance the only 2 songs I don't like are Take These Chains and Fever. Yeah for you Defenders smokes SFV but for me SFV beats Defenders by a nose hair,its very close as both are excellent albums for sure. Now this I can see fans grabbing at both albums.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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A guy with paintbrushes up his nose! lol......................at least I hope it's paintbrushes.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:12:56 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | .
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Defenders eh...haha yeah that album smokes. I Just don't like Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down....never have, while Screaming For Vengeance the only 2 songs I don't like are Take These Chains and Fever. Yeah for you Defenders smokes SFV but for me SFV beats Defenders by a nose hair,its very close as both are excellent albums for sure. Now this I can see fans grabbing at both albums.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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Defenders eh...haha yeah that album smokes. I Just don't like Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down....never have, while Screaming For Vengeance the only 2 songs I don't like are Take These Chains and Fever. Yeah for you Defenders smokes SFV but for me SFV beats Defenders by a nose hair,its very close as both are excellent albums for sure. Now this I can see fans grabbing at both albums.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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| [spapad] Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:12:41 PM | |
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Now that's an easy typo to make Bud, try this one on for size:
Looks like the public works department needs some spelling leasons. lol
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| [Brian_Evans] Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:09:28 AM | |
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Huh,well they both do something for me,its just that as i've said Defenders has 3 songs on it that don't do it for me while SFV has 2 songs that are under par so thats why I take SFV over Defenders but I sure as hell can see why people take Defenders over SFV,its a very difficult choice for me. I don't think that Defenders has one song that beats The Hellion/Electic Eye,that song alone makes SFV better lol! No worries,nobody can win this thread lol!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:46:25 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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Defenders eh...haha yeah that album smokes. I Just don't like Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down....never have, while Screaming For Vengeance the only 2 songs I don't like are Take These Chains and Fever. Yeah for you Defenders smokes SFV but for me SFV beats Defenders by a nose hair,its very close as both are excellent albums for sure. Now this I can see fans grabbing at both albums.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:46:25 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE JUST DOES NOT DO MUCH FOR ME
DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH DOES ALOT FOR ME
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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Arr arrr arrr arr ....shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:15:29 PM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | Defenders over SFV. Better vocals and guitar solos.
Passing the bong around...thats funny man.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
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Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:15:29 PM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | Defenders over SFV. Better vocals and guitar solos.
Passing the bong around...thats funny man.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
.just joking with you man.lol.DEFENDERS SMOKES VENGEANCE EASILY.THIS IS WAR
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE JUST DOES NOT DO MUCH FOR ME
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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Ron...I told you you're post was thought provoking.(LOL)
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Defenders over SFV. Better vocals and guitar solos.
Passing the bong around...thats funny man.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:46:25 PM)
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
.just joking with you man.lol.DEFENDERS SMOKES VENGEANCE EASILY.THIS IS WAR
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE JUST DOES NOT DO MUCH FOR ME
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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"you may be the first person who hates free wheel burning!"
No, I was the first one. 
Then again... after few rounds it kinda grew on me. 
Seriously speaking, I first felt it was too fast for my liking... but I just needed to get used to it!
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OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
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LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
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All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
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I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
.just joking with you man.lol.DEFENDERS SMOKES VENGEANCE EASILY.THIS IS WAR
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE JUST DOES NOT DO MUCH FOR ME
DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH DOES ALOT FOR ME
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:29:39 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, August 09, 2010 7:28:38 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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| [Head banger] Monday, August 09, 2010 8:20:10 PM | |
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what? 6 million posts saying "yeah me too" or "right I agree" wouldnt be awesome?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, August 09, 2010 7:28:38 PM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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The Freewheel Burning Video may not be thier best I agree but it beats the hell out of the Turbo Lover video by far haha! The song "Freewheel Burning" to me is a classic,it never bothered me at all and I still like the track,its "Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive,Night Comes Down"...those 3 songs are "weak" and this is why I rate Angel Of Retribution over Defenders Of The Faith.
I'd take Revolution,Worth Fighting For and Angel over Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down anyday. Screaming For Vengeance is better as the only weak links on that album are Take These Chains and Fever.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:57:31 AM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Maybe if they had not scared me for life with the video, I could enjoy the song, but the vid is just plain awful! All I think about when I hear that song is how much I can't stand that Vid! I find "Don't Go" with all its strangeness a better video than Freewheel Burning.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I do like DOTF, just not as much as most. Also, when the songs are played live they truly kick ass!! My not caring much for the album is really just that, the album itself (cover / production), but when they're on stage they even make the songs off Turbo rock.
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Never played Missile Command. Played lots of driving games, and way too much Ms. Pacman, but never that one. Still wouldn't change my mind.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:06:53 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I referred to what classic? MISSILE COMMAND!
| | | spapad wrote: | | Pasha! I played the racing games, and all that. My favorite was Spy wars. I played the games etc... I just thought the vid was cheesy. No changing my mind on this one
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame....
| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I referred to what classic? MISSILE COMMAND!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:03:31 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Pasha! I played the racing games, and all that. My favorite was Spy wars. I played the games etc... I just thought the vid was cheesy. No changing my mind on this one
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame....
| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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Maybe if they had not scared me for life with the video, I could enjoy the song, but the vid is just plain awful! All I think about when I hear that song is how much I can't stand that Vid! I find "Don't Go" with all its strangeness a better video than Freewheel Burning.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:28:44 PM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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The production isn't the best on Defenders but the songs are great, Freewheel Burning is classic JP along with most of the other tracks..'Love Bites', 'Some Heads...' 'Jawbreaker' 'Night Comes Down' and 'Rock Hard Ride Free'. So although its not my favourite Priest album its def up there.
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ok, thats 2.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:28:44 PM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:27:28 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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you may be the first person who hates free wheel burning!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:27:28 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [spapad] Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:03:31 PM | |
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Pasha! I played the racing games, and all that. My favorite was Spy wars. I played the games etc... I just thought the vid was cheesy. No changing my mind on this one
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:31:20 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame....
| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [spapad] Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:59:54 PM | |
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Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:27:28 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Becks] Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:06:36 PM | |
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LOL Spa, just goes to show the diversity of Priest fans, cos I love that song. But yeah the video is average hehe. Cheesy 80's music videos.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:27:28 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:57:07 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Head banger] Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:10:53 PM | |
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yeah, I know. gets old. that and scorpions. every other song on bone or hair nation seems to be one or the other.
heck makes eme wish for more poison. HA!
I once heard all the whole SFV album on the radio, our local rock station used to play a whole album at midnight. but other than that, the once a month obligatory priest on the radio is all you get here. confined to the base three songs.
probably why I dont listen.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:36:32 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I've heard GM but have been amazed at how much Squier has been played on Boneyard since you mentioned it.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I have never heard anything from dof on the radio (sat or internet radio excepted)
on comercial radio I here YGOTC all the time, but your right BS gets more air play, with breaking the law and and living after midnight. never heard green manalishi either.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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It is, it's a real fist in the air gung-ho type of album.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:57:07 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:44:23 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:02:22 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I've heard GM but have been amazed at how much Squier has been played on Boneyard since you mentioned it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:46:09 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | I have never heard anything from dof on the radio (sat or internet radio excepted)
on comercial radio I here YGOTC all the time, but your right BS gets more air play, with breaking the law and and living after midnight. never heard green manalishi either.
| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Head banger] Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:46:09 PM | |
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I have never heard anything from dof on the radio (sat or internet radio excepted)
on comercial radio I here YGOTC all the time, but your right BS gets more air play, with breaking the law and and living after midnight. never heard green manalishi either.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:02:22 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Brian_Evans] Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:15:50 PM | |
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Yep....and Rob Halfords vocals on Defenders destroy SFV. But don't get me wrong, I love SFV.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, August 06, 2010 11:07:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, August 06, 2010 11:07:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, August 06, 2010 8:23:10 PM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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THe Production on "Screaming " was mind blowing. The record was a fine representation of Heavy Guitar Music. Any music fan Loved the Guitar sounds of "screaming. DOTF let me down at first. I thought the guitar sound was not as good. To much Low end. IMO. It took i little time but i love the power of the songs. I thought the Riffage was progressively superior to "Screaming". I love th Lyrics of Defenders. Live Defenders songs are Unstoppable.
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| [Mr. Dave Genocide] Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:50:30 AM | |
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I've thought the same thing... Defenders flows with no hesitation and keeps chuggin' on heavier and heavier. Screaming started strong and ended strong, but the middle was kind of missing something, the something that Defenders kept and should have been bigger than Screaming.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, July 26, 2010 9:18:27 AM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | | To me Defenders has always been better than Screaming, and also two different albums. The songs off of Defenders were much darker and heavier than what was on Screaming.Screaming to me had a lot of filler material, where every song on Defenders are kick ass. Both are excellent, but I prefer Defenders of the Faith. |
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| [icecreamman] Monday, July 26, 2010 9:18:27 AM | |
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| To me Defenders has always been better than Screaming, and also two different albums. The songs off of Defenders were much darker and heavier than what was on Screaming.Screaming to me had a lot of filler material, where every song on Defenders are kick ass. Both are excellent, but I prefer Defenders of the Faith. |
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| [Mr. Dave Genocide] Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:41:07 PM | |
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I agree. Turbo and Ram It Down were very disappointing, esp. Ram It Down. The one thing that sent it into a nosedive was the use of a drum machine. I've always wondered how it would've turned out with Scott Travis on drum duty! I'm sure everyone agree's that Painkiller sent them back on the right path.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
| | | Budred wrote: | | Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [spapad] Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM | |
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:23:16 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
| | | Budred wrote: | | Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [ron h] Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:23:16 AM | |
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:11:31 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Budred] Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:11:31 AM | |
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:36:51 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [ron h] Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:36:51 AM | |
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Mr. Dave Genocide] Friday, July 23, 2010 10:17:32 AM | |
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| 'Defenders' definitely get's overlooked, sadly. And I can't understand why! From the fast-paced Freewheel Burning all the way thru the anthem title-track, it's completely solid! If anything it's practically better than 'Screaming', and I know a lot of you out there agree. I completely adore this album, def. one of their Top albums ever. |
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| [guardian angel] Friday, July 23, 2010 9:54:40 AM | |
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My first and favorite Priest album. It's had the most plays of my whole collection by far! \m/ \m/  |
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| [metallo] Friday, July 23, 2010 6:08:15 AM | |
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| ONE OF THE BEST ALBUM OF EVER, AS FOR EVERY PRIEST'S ALBUM |
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| [Priest_Fan78] Friday, July 09, 2010 7:52:16 AM | |
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Rising from darkness where hell hath no mercy and the screams of vengeance echo on forever,
only those who keep the faith shall escape the wrath of the metallian... Defenders of the Faith.
Judas Priest is the best heavy metal band ever! I just love their music so much.
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| [Ruslan Silvermann] Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:18:59 PM | |
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With this video that I saw in 1985, I made myself a fan of Judas Priest forever.
Thanks, Life
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:44:09 PM) |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:16:01 PM | |
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Just wondering...................Dont you ever get tired to making new accounts? I could name them all. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Melissa Kaileigh from Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:28:54 AM)| | | Melissa Kaileigh wrote: | | I agree with you,an AWESOME album.
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:06:34 PM | |
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Awesome! I love DOTF, it's an album that rarely leaves my car, I love blasting The Sentinel while I'm driving around LOL! Actually I love blasting the whole album
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:44:09 PM | |
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| [Melissa Kaileigh] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:28:54 AM | |
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I agree with you,an AWESOME album.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Priest_Fan78 from Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM)| | | Priest_Fan78 wrote: | | | Well, I think all of Priest's albums are truly awesome. But Defenders of the Faith is the greatest. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, June 28, 2010 4:32:21 PM | |
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YEAH DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH IS MY SECOND FAVORITE PRIEST ALBUM
you know what gets me is how back in the 80's when it was unleashed i heard critics called it SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE 2 wtf personaly i think DEFENDERS IS MUCH different and way better of an album
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| [Priestgirl_1] Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:23:50 AM | |
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Priest_Fan78 from Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM)| | | Priest_Fan78 wrote: | | | Well, I think all of Priest's albums are truly awesome. But Defenders of the Faith is the greatest. |
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| [Priest_Fan78] Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM | |
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| Well, I think all of Priest's albums are truly awesome. But Defenders of the Faith is the greatest. |
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| [metalmaz] Friday, June 25, 2010 3:27:03 PM | |
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| It gets overlooked.I love it. Priest's last really great album in my opinion. |
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| [K2M] Friday, June 25, 2010 3:24:47 PM | |
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| [Priest_Fan78] Friday, June 25, 2010 1:43:33 PM | |
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This album, 1984 Defenders of the Faith.. Is simply the greatest heavy metal album of all time! It's so powerful.
Freewheel Burning kicks some serious ass. Jawbreaker is a JAWBREAKER. Rock Hard Ride Free is mindblowing.
The Sentinel is a facemelter. Love Bites is love at first note. Eat Me Alive eats you alive. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll is truly AWESOME.
Night Comes Down is so beautiful. Heavy Duty/Defenders of the faith is heavier than heaviest.
I just had to write this. Judas Priest forever!
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