I find that NOSTRADAMUS gets better everytime I listen to it. I admit, I was disappointed when I first bought it. However, I listen to it more and more. I describe such as SAD WINGS OF DESTINY thirty years later, and we all know how awesome and psychedellic that album was (and is). Hats off to the Priest, for delivering quality metal that one can listen to over and over again.
[Skython] Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:27:20 AM
I'm still quite a new Priest fan, because Nostradamus got me into Priest. Disc 2 is better in my own opinion, because it is a lot more serious with good epic songs like Alone, and Future of Mankind, my favourite song by Priest, Nostradamus was the first album I ever bought, and to this day remains my best purchase for cd's, Nostradamus IS the best Priest album to me, and it will never change, unless the new album follows on the same sort of thing but makes it even better (and makes it longer, for some reason Nostradamus feels too short)
[ar9lsi] Friday, March 25, 2011 2:29:10 AM
Nostradamus is one of the best Judas albums, but I have "weird" taste in Judas.. I also prefer albums like Angel of retribution (which is a pre Nostradamus in some ways), Defender of the faith and Screaming for vengeance. I of course like BS! Nostradamus CD 2 is the better I believe. I am in honesty, a sucker for concept albums; Rush 2112, Queensryche Operation mindcrime etc.
Please Judas, put in a Stockholm date on your Epitaph-tour!
[JT_Small_Deadly_Space] Monday, January 31, 2011 8:15:34 AM
Nostradamus had a strange effect on me.
When I first heard the title track on myspace before its release I felt a rush I'd never experienced from any Priest song and that's the truth I thought it was so powerful and this made me want the album more than anything. Then I heard Visions and I liked that immediately too but still thought Nostradamus was the better track.
Then I went to Download and saw them there where they played Prophecy and Death. I thought Prophecy was a brilliant opener, so heavy with an excellent drum groove and despite naysayers, the lyrics work really well. Death I did like it although I thought it was a bit long but loved the bit in the middle where it turns heavy and I really liked the darkness of the chorus.
Then I returned to see Nostradamus on my doorstep. I stuck it in and let it play from start to finish. At first I was disappointed mainly because I was expecting every song to be as heavy as the title and opening tracks and some of the songs I didn't connect with.
But I listened and listened and the songs started to grow on me little by little and it became my most listened to Priest album and I don't know why. It was strange I would put it in knowing it wasn't my favourite album but I did it anyway and now I absolutely love it. I think if Scott had had that space to be more creative, this album could have been way better as the drums in many songs were pretty straight forward and not very exciting although his use of space is outstanding especially in the track, 'Alone'.
It's a weird balance of good and bad I think and this is me being honest with this album. I think pros go to: Halford's voice, Glenn and KK's soloing and the use of effects and synth to create something unique. Unfortunately I think the drumming lets it down though that is no fault of Scott, he just didn't have a lot to work with.
Some of the riffs I think are magnificent and the best go to, Prophecy, Nostramdamus, Death (middle section and chorus), Persecution and Future of Mankind. But some are just more straight forward progressions.
I think overall it is a good album with some great tracks and average tracks maybe more of the latter. But I still pop it in and skip to the ones I think are true Priest classics.
[metalgodess] Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:51:16 PM
It gets better every time I listen. Lie down in complete darkness with the headphones on and crank it...you will feel every note throughout your entire body as it possess you...
[jackylone] Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:00:15 PM
Even though, the 'so called streak' people have referred to it as has been over for 14 months, i still spin it at least once a week! I had the opportunity to speak to Rob via telephone a few months ago on a radio show, and he was glad to hear i still listen, and that my metal loving' dog still listens! I love this record and it will never be permanently filed away! Cheers everyone!
[the highway terror] Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:15:43 PM
As a Priest fan since '78 I state IMNSHO that Nostradamus is the most fully realized album Priest have ever done.
I'm not calling it the best or my favorite but, it's great and It's everything It should be . A masterpiece.
[metallo] Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:48:52 PM
Thank you Zombi. Of course you're welcome in Terni, Italy. We have not a famous university but we are famous for producing 'STEEL'. Italian Steel, not British, but always steel, and of course I'm working with it, selling it world wide. It's strange but we are all 'Steelers'.
I don't think JP will come here, but maybe Rome, Florence, Milan... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Monday, August 02, 2010 1:46:28 AM)
zomby wrote:
metallo if j/p comes to cambridge and you wanna see them you welcome to join me and stay over
[Zomby] Monday, August 02, 2010 1:46:28 AM
metallo if j/p comes to cambridge and you wanna see them you welcome to join me and stay over
[metalmaz] Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:47:09 AM
I never judge the quality of an album by it's sales. Shania Twain Come On Over sold shedloads and it's crap [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Void from Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:07:41 PM)
Void wrote:
Nostradamus was sold preety well in coparision to other record as it reached 11 postition in list of best selling album in GB (only 2 other records had had better place) It was also very popular around the world
It is not bad album, but it's different from "classic" Priest I thing it's good that they tried to change something and still want to develope
[metallo] Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:03:40 PM
...and I want Judas Priest to come back in Italy. But in case they will not come in Italy but will come in Cambridge, do you have any place for me ? On the contrary there's a placew for you here. But do not say to my wife. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:44:42 AM)
zomby wrote:
but i want more i want judaspriest to come back to cambridge
[Zomby] Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:44:42 AM
but i want more i want judaspriest to come back to cambridge
[Zomby] Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:43:12 AM
i love nostradamus its a great album and i agree with you lads it shows judas priests dexterity but i did wonder what kind of concert i would see at priestfest 09 at wembly arena but i needent have worried they played everything including nostradamus tracks and i got trashed and boogied to every tune only fell over 3 times i want to thank the people behind me for helping me up
[jackylone] Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:26:07 AM
Nostradamus made #9 in U.S., first time they cracked the top10 in America!
[metallo] Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:02:32 AM
Great Album.
Just to demonstrate that they can be very heavy, very epic, very symphonic, very pop, thay can do everything and whatever they do it's the best.
That's right?
"Nella tentazione, cercando la gloria, il prezzo da pagare, è la caduta dell'uomo" but thet will never fall down.
[Void] Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:07:41 PM
Nostradamus was sold preety well in coparision to other record as it reached 11 postition in list of best selling album in GB (only 2 other records had had better place) It was also very popular around the world
It is not bad album, but it's different from "classic" Priest I thing it's good that they tried to change something and still want to develope
[Budred] Monday, July 12, 2010 9:45:53 PM
I tried to listen with an open mind. I just can't get into it. Too mellow, too symphonic.
I'm glad for Priest that people are into it but it's just not for me. Rob's singing style leaves a little
to be desired. Not enough highs, kind of boring.
Does anyone know how this album compares to average sales of other Priest lp's.(just curious)
Long live the Priest and all their fans!!!
[hellrider 31038] Monday, July 12, 2010 5:09:15 PM
shhhhhhhhhh COMMANDER you might give PRIEST a idea to perform nostradamus tour.no offence of coarse.it would be like trans siberian orchastra people saying they used to be a metal band but they sold out.puts us PRIEST METAL MANIACS DEFENDERS IN A VERY AWKWARD AND DEPRESSING SITUATION.it would also scar the NAME JUDAS PRIEST
I thought Prophecy,War, Nostradamus and Future Of Mankind were the 4 standouts and I also liked a couple of short/intro tracks like "Awakening" but I hate the song it goes into "Revelations". I also liked Calm Before The Storm intro to Nostradamus.
The rest doesn't settle with me. Nostradamus is a well put together epic album theres no question about that. I'm just jealous of those who can get into it's world because even though I say I would prefer the band to change it's name for the Nostra album,it's still created by JUDAS PRIEST my favorite band of all time so its an awkward situation(sigh) I just wish the album was something that was more up my ally I guess.
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:53:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Oh, I agree that those that like Nostra are in NO WAY trying to convince those that do. See? There is a difference beween us and fanboy fake Brian: when we think something sucks, we say it. It isn't blindly following the blind. Were that true, someone would have convinced me that Lochness was a decent sond LOOOONG ago. I'll even admit to the cheesy topic of Nostra. However, I am into classical music as well as some of you. The phrasings ARE classical in nature. I have heard many an interview where the guys wanted to do this sort of album and I am happy that they have come to a point in their career where it has come to fruition. Just one man's opinion, nothing more.
Say. J.D. (as I know YOU'LL answer as opposed to fanboy Brian), what are your four songs or so off Nostra? I think you might have posted them before but I forget. Please remind me.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
With Nostradamus,I don't think that those of us who dislike it are trying to get other people to dislike it. But rather argue that the album in it's entirety is not "Judas Priest's signature sound". Nostradamus,Turbo and Demolition are all the same way,they don't harness the signature sound all the way through and are the only 3 records by the band that astray too far from the bands true sound. Jugulator and Ram It Down are very weak-like and went into left field but at least they didn't go out of the ballpark.
I don't think Ram It Down is a great Priest album,but with 10 songs on it I can handle 5 of them(Ram It Down, Heavy Metal, Come And Get It, Hard As Iron, Blood Red Skies)with the other 5 songs blah,but at least its half the album ....with Nostradamus there are 22 or so tracks and I can only handle 4 of them.
But thats irrelevant,the main point here is that the only thing we can agree on is that the Nostradamus album is the most different "away from Judas Priest" sounding album they have ever done.I just think it was too different sounding to be called a "Judas Priest" album.
Its like the band Emperor with the albums Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk and Equilibrium,they are not "Emperor's signature sound" and too strange to be called an Emperor albums yet to me they are both excellent albums. I would agree that those 2 albums shouldn't of been called "Emperor" and should of changed the band's name but I still like those records.
This is the same senario with Nostradamus,if I did like the Nostradamus album I would still not consider it "Judas Priest".
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:42:25 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, if "people are just wankng over this album because it is Priest," why wouldn't that hold true for ALL Priest albums? Songs too for that matter? Turbo was a Priest album last time I checked and I don't think I even own it. LP or cassette if at all. RID on both just because it is autographed. Nope, the theory doesn't hold water.
Sorry that you don't like Nostra. I do. Part because it is Priest? Certainly could be. I am intrigued by it complexity, sophistication and what marks the musical culmination of a band I have adored all my life.
metalmaz wrote:
I guess you ran as fast as possible to get it over as fast as possible. I can't think what's worse, running 8 miles or listening to Nostraboruesus! I agree that the length of a song does not back a good record. It's actually what's in it. Death is 7.34.minutes. 7.34 minutes of crap. The the whole of Nostraborues is over 70 minutes. How the hell they only managed make around 15 minutes of it worth listening to is beyond belief. People are only wanking over this because it's A Priest album. If any other band had done it everyone would say it was complete crap. For the most part Nostra is a fat, lazy, overblown, turgid and tedious. I can't believe how a group who have given us so many great albums could have the audacity to foist this on the public. Of course some of you love it and that's fine. I respect their opinions. But I just can't get into Nostra and it's not for want of trying.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wholeheartedly disagree. Nostra shows whats it takes to make an epic HM album. It is NOT that Maiden crap, 10 minute songs do not make for a good record. Ran 8 miles to Nosrta last night. Loved every second of it.
Just one man's opinion but I stated it before. Heaven forbid that this be their last album but I would be a happy camper were it so. It is nothing short of maasterpiece.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Nostradamus is anything but "Judas Priest" and is musically not a "heavy metal" album. Dio's "Magica" is a concept album that is a "heavy metal" album that is done the traditional way done right with so many instruments,Judas Priest should of took a class with Dio as the instructor teaching them how to do such an album. Magica is light years ahead of it's time and of course ahead of Nostradamus by far. This is the best concept album of all time. Hail Dio!
(Quoting Message by jackylone from Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:32:33 AM)
jackylone wrote:
Don't let anyone steer you away from listening to Nostradamus. It is a great album about a historical figure....everyone wants Painkiller, can't do the same thing over and over, it would all sound the same! NOSTRADAMUS=MASTERPIECE Edited at: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:33:09 AM
Edited at: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:11:08 PM
Edited at: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:43:03 AM
Edited at: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:36:29 PM
Edited at: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:44:19 AM
Edited at: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:15:32 PM
[hellrider 31038] Monday, July 12, 2010 2:50:56 PM
actactly COMMANDER.i have given credit to Jackylone many times for what he did and introducing THE MIGHTY PRIEST to many people who have never heard them before and those people checking out the back catolog for the first time.its just when someone says nostradamus is a METAL MASTERPIECE and the best PRIEST ALBUM.i definatly disagree .and say it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:20:28 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
With Nostradamus,I don't think that those of us who dislike it are trying to get other people to dislike it. But rather argue that the album in it's entirety is not "Judas Priest's signature sound". Nostradamus,Turbo and Demolition are all the same way,they don't harness the signature sound all the way through and are the only 3 records by the band that astray too far from the bands true sound. Jugulator and Ram It Down are very weak-like and went into left field but at least they didn't go out of the ballpark.
I don't think Ram It Down is a great Priest album,but with 10 songs on it I can handle 5 of them(Ram It Down, Heavy Metal, Come And Get It, Hard As Iron, Blood Red Skies)with the other 5 songs blah,but at least its half the album ....with Nostradamus there are 22 or so tracks and I can only handle 4 of them.
But thats irrelevant,the main point here is that the only thing we can agree on is that the Nostradamus album is the most different "away from Judas Priest" sounding album they have ever done.I just think it was too different sounding to be called a "Judas Priest" album.
Its like the band Emperor with the albums Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk and Equilibrium,they are not "Emperor's signature sound" and too strange to be called an Emperor albums yet to me they are both excellent albums. I would agree that those 2 albums shouldn't of been called "Emperor" and should of changed the band's name but I still like those records.
This is the same senario with Nostradamus,if I did like the Nostradamus album I would still not consider it "Judas Priest".
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:42:25 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Well, if "people are just wankng over this album because it is Priest," why wouldn't that hold true for ALL Priest albums? Songs too for that matter? Turbo was a Priest album last time I checked and I don't think I even own it. LP or cassette if at all. RID on both just because it is autographed. Nope, the theory doesn't hold water.
Sorry that you don't like Nostra. I do. Part because it is Priest? Certainly could be. I am intrigued by it complexity, sophistication and what marks the musical culmination of a band I have adored all my life.
metalmaz wrote:
I guess you ran as fast as possible to get it over as fast as possible. I can't think what's worse, running 8 miles or listening to Nostraboruesus! I agree that the length of a song does not back a good record. It's actually what's in it. Death is 7.34.minutes. 7.34 minutes of crap. The the whole of Nostraborues is over 70 minutes. How the hell they only managed make around 15 minutes of it worth listening to is beyond belief. People are only wanking over this because it's A Priest album. If any other band had done it everyone would say it was complete crap. For the most part Nostra is a fat, lazy, overblown, turgid and tedious. I can't believe how a group who have given us so many great albums could have the audacity to foist this on the public. Of course some of you love it and that's fine. I respect their opinions. But I just can't get into Nostra and it's not for want of trying.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wholeheartedly disagree. Nostra shows whats it takes to make an epic HM album. It is NOT that Maiden crap, 10 minute songs do not make for a good record. Ran 8 miles to Nosrta last night. Loved every second of it.
Just one man's opinion but I stated it before. Heaven forbid that this be their last album but I would be a happy camper were it so. It is nothing short of maasterpiece.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Nostradamus is anything but "Judas Priest" and is musically not a "heavy metal" album. Dio's "Magica" is a concept album that is a "heavy metal" album that is done the traditional way done right with so many instruments,Judas Priest should of took a class with Dio as the instructor teaching them how to do such an album. Magica is light years ahead of it's time and of course ahead of Nostradamus by far. This is the best concept album of all time. Hail Dio!
(Quoting Message by jackylone from Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:32:33 AM)
jackylone wrote:
Don't let anyone steer you away from listening to Nostradamus. It is a great album about a historical figure....everyone wants Painkiller, can't do the same thing over and over, it would all sound the same! NOSTRADAMUS=MASTERPIECE Edited at: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:33:09 AM
Edited at: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:11:08 PM
Edited at: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:43:03 AM
Edited at: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:36:29 PM
[Brian_Evans] Monday, July 12, 2010 1:37:02 PM
What I mean is since you're in the company of such well respected veteran members in this thread your opinion matters too. SO GO FOR IT MAN!!!! Ha! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, July 12, 2010 10:20:30 AM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I'm interested!!!!
Budred wrote:
I'm going to force myself to listen to Nostradamus to and from work today.
Sometimes when I listen to music I don't like it at first and then after a few listens
it starts sounding better. This album is so unlike anything that Priest has (ever) done
that (maybe) I didn't give it a chance. The first few listens, after about five or six songs
it literally put a pit in my stomach so we'll see. If anyone is interested I'll post again
tonight to let you know how it went.
Peace all!