Got issues and concerns regarding Priest...do it here. Keep it out of the other rooms!
You do not have enough Respect Points to post in this topic.
[Ears from Outer Space] Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:08:10 PM
Building products these days are just not what they use to be. I'm tired of going to places like Home Depot and paying good money and the stuff turns out like crap. It's really getting on my nerves big time. They should be held accountable for some of the crap they sell.
Ears
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:49:19 PM
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
If you can buy yourself knick-knacks and shit every single day - you can put some of that to help animals instead!
Thanks to all who cares!
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:37:02 PM
Thanks, that was an interesting read. For once someone wrote about the matter in a neutral way, instead of accusing either side.
Thanks also for reminding me about the correct technological terms - for a non-native speaker it's not always easy to figure out the correct ones. From now on I won't use "rip" when talking about simple digitizing of analog material.
The addition of this "anti-piracy" system to ISP EULAs is just another example of corporations trampling on human rights to further extend their status and generate even more money to themselves. By doing this they're only making themselves look ridiculous again. Instead of combating the actual crime (the ones who share the files; like I said earlier you can find numerous sources with even a simple Google search), they're attacking the downloaders by severely limiting their privacy. In fact, while in Finland the ISPs aren't (yet) allowed to do that, a recently-passed law now allows for the police to remotelycrack into your computer, bypassing/deactivating any security features on it, if you're even suspected of any sort of crime. Previously that was only allowed in serious crimes and only with a special permission by the attorney.
NTSC v. PAL made sense back in the day when the appliances could only use one format, but nowadays most of them can use both formats. It's current purpose is, like the DVD region codes, only to increase sales.
I also don't believe that piracy is a key factor in Priest releasing compilations. Maybe they have a contrast clause that says "release X amount of albums", and because they're unlikely to release more than a couple of albums worth of new material anymore, they use compilations to fill in. Or then Sony noticed that "hey Judas Priest is getting popular again, why not capitalize on it?".
Edited at: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:51:28 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:16:35 PM
Interesting to know about the Finnish copyright laws, Nupe. Like I said, I really couldn't speak about them. I would think that any problems you'd have would come from within Finland, though. Not really what I was describing with the US and Canada being so heavy-handed about file sharing vis a vis the new EULA "voluntarily giving up Constitutional rights" (no other way to phrase it, really, as they aren't laws). While the US and Canada have an open agreement now to turn over any violator, it isn't currently so with most nations. That is why many tapers who are sharing shows will be explicit in saying "don't share this with any other person from, say, Brazil" for example. Piracy or, even worse as you say the SELLING of shows is just too rampant. It IS moving that direction, though. Why people are still allowed to sell downloaded shows on eBay is just beyond me. True scum, as you say.
You still aren't technically "ripping" when you convert a VHS to DVD, though. Like I said, that is more a conversion / transcode by definition as there is no security you are bypassing. You "rip" a movie, for example when you make a copy as you are "ripping" the CSS protection as well as the many devices that prohibit you from fast-forwarding over the previews as I am sure you know.
For the record, when I made my own backup copy of the NTSC version of the VHS, it was for the exact same reason. Didn't want the tape to degrade. I used an external firewire Pinnacle system converter and it turned out very nicely. Especially when I put in the menus. Curious part? I would not be able to legally share it with you as US / Canada law specifically prohibits me (with a legal version of the tape / legal version of the digitized version of the tape) to share it with you (who also owns a legal version of the tape). Why? NTSC vs. PAL!! Does that suck or what?
Don't get me started on the Region Code Nazi's!!
Want an interesting read? Try Quinn Norton's comments on Pirate Bay in the link below. I love the way she writes. She makes some very interesting points about Sweden and the Netherlands and THEIR laws.
I originally took that digital copy only for myself as well, but then I thought "it's been out of print for 17 years, the band and the record label are no longer receiving any money from it's sales, and no DVD reissue is in sight (and probably never will)". So, I then decided to upload it. I had previously shared a few out-of-print single B-sides on my site, but when the Single Cuts boxset was announced, I immediately removed them as an official CD release was to be soon available. I would do exactly the same if the Metal Works VHS received a reissue in any form. And no, the Finnish copyright laws aren't any more relaxed than in the USA, but so far I've avoided any trouble.
I love the band and am usually against sharing official material over the internet. If someone puts their whole official discography/videography (that you can easily buy legally from anywhere) on the net (just Google search and you get tons of results), I loathe it. If someone sells bootlegs, I loathe it as well. But if someone shares a release that's been out-of print for over a decade, the band no longer receives any money from it (as all the copies on the market are second-hand) and it isn't receiving a reissue anytime soon, let's just say that I won't feel too bad about it. I did think about putting the VHS-rip on the web for quite a while, but if it offends the other fans too much, I can still remove it. Would only take a couple of minutes, it's a pretty crappy rip anyway...
Oh and J.D. Diamond, I'm not going to buy the Chosen Few, even though I bought the Single Cuts boxset. That compilation offers nothing new to me, unlike the boxset which at least has single B-sides I couldn't have gotten before because of my young age (and lack of funds - old vinyl singles are pretty expensive these days).That's why I haven't bought any Judas Priest compilations at all - I could always make the exact same compilation from the albums I've already bought.
guidogodoy wrote:
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:39:25 PM
I originally took that digital copy only for myself as well, but then I thought "it's been out of print for 17 years, the band and the record label are no longer receiving any money from it's sales, and no DVD reissue is in sight (and probably never will)". So, I then decided to upload it. I had previously shared a few out-of-print single B-sides on my site, but when the Single Cuts boxset was announced, I immediately removed them as an official CD release was to be soon available. I would do exactly the same if the Metal Works VHS received a reissue in any form. And no, the Finnish copyright laws aren't any more relaxed than in the USA, but so far I've avoided any trouble.
I love the band and am usually against sharing official material over the internet. If someone puts their whole official discography/videography (that you can easily buy legally from anywhere) on the net (just Google search and you get tons of results), I loathe it. If someone sells bootlegs, I loathe it as well. But if someone shares a release that's been out-of print for over a decade, the band no longer receives any money from it (as all the copies on the market are second-hand) and it isn't receiving a reissue anytime soon, let's just say that I won't feel too bad about it. I did think about putting the VHS-rip on the web for quite a while, but if it offends the other fans too much, I can still remove it. Would only take a couple of minutes, it's a pretty crappy rip anyway...
Oh and J.D. Diamond, I'm not going to buy the Chosen Few, even though I bought the Single Cuts boxset. That compilation offers nothing new to me, unlike the boxset which at least has single B-sides I couldn't have gotten before because of my young age (and lack of funds - old vinyl singles are pretty expensive these days).That's why I haven't bought any Judas Priest compilations at all - I could always make the exact same compilation from the albums I've already bought.
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 30, 2011 11:41:48 PM
Shall I start singing "The Outfield" now? LOL!!!! YEAAAAAAH! THERE is the best starting line in all songwriting: "You got me all screwed up!"
are you sugesting my wonderful government is making a fuss over nothing. perhaps trying to look good without doing anything? a politician? say it isnt so.
guidogodoy wrote:
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 11:08:58 PM
are you sugesting my wonderful government is making a fuss over nothing. perhaps trying to look good without doing anything? a politician? say it isnt so.
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
Head banger wrote:
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 30, 2011 11:02:31 PM
Like I said, I am with you about the dubious reason as to why Priest is releasing these new "Best of" albums. Certainly isn't because of illegal downloading, to be sure.
The rule that is has been the norm (in both the US and Canada) is that you can legally "transcode" a video / music you legally own. It has always been the case and a major reason as to why the digital media rights mafia hasn't been able to go all that far in either country (they do not just govern one country, they claim to "protect" all intellectual property worldwide). Big problem was CSS - the original "scramble" protection code. THAT was made illegal. They shut down many an international site that either sold or gave away a DE-CSS program (i.e. rip). Odd rule. You could, in theory, own a copy of the same movie or album for personal use on various devices (iPhone, PSP, backup) but it was / is illegal to circumvent the CSS code. Go figger. Look at the debate over Pirate Bay for a good discussion of the subject.
Exactly why a great many movies, albums and games have gone "protection-free." Canada is just now making a show about a law that is already on the books.
Nupe's comment about "ripping" JP's "Metal Works" is a misnomer. He transcoded it from one format to another. I own the NTSC version of it and digitized it years ago. It never had protection, thus, perfectly legal for me to make a backup. NOT legal (in the US...Finland is another case) to share it openly as it is copyrighted material. In certain countries, though. That is why many servers have moved to more "share friendly" countries that are out of reach of current international law.
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
guidogodoy wrote:
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 10:39:36 PM
canada just changed or is planning to change the copyright act to permit any use of a song, as long as you dont have to break a digital lock. interesting, all this downloading crap is a pain.
I dont see how priest is making money to replace downloading with more stuff that could easily be downloaded. we have all these songs, rip them in the right order
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 10:35:58 PM
simple, gull wasnt paying them, this is [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 30, 2011 8:47:26 PM)
spapad wrote:
I just don't really understand any of this rereleasing of so much stuff we all have. Is it for the new generation? Can't they still buy the old catalog of music?
I seem to remember Priest getting upset with Gull for continuing to repackage their old music to an add nauseum degree. So, why is Priest now doing it?
[Becks] Friday, September 30, 2011 8:53:34 PM
For me, the 'issue' of this re-release stuff i.e. single cuts etc is easy - don't want it? don't like it? Then don't buy it, simple.
[spapad] Friday, September 30, 2011 8:47:26 PM
I just don't really understand any of this rereleasing of so much stuff we all have. Is it for the new generation? Can't they still buy the old catalog of music?
I seem to remember Priest getting upset with Gull for continuing to repackage their old music to an add nauseum degree. So, why is Priest now doing it?
[guidogodoy] Friday, September 30, 2011 8:21:54 PM
Sorry. Don't buy that argument at all. While there is no doubt that downloading (both legal and illegal) has changed the old school music economic model, you don't exactly go and buy a golf course because you are poor.
It completely flew under the radar of most in the US but there was a recent "major win" by those groups that not only try to stop but actually persecute those who violate the many acts and laws that are out to protect Digital Media Rights.
The freelance writer and consumer advocate for a "fair use" policy, Quinn Norton, recently released a bombshell in the trade rags such as "Wired" and MaxPC magazines. It slipped by in the form of an EULA (end user license agreement) that the big 5 internet providers formed. Basically, with no laws, most have now signed away their rights without knowing it simply by using their internet provider. They track you with even the suspicion of an illegal download and your company "dings" you. A few "dings" and you are forced to go through an online class before you are granted full internet access again. Your acct flagged a second time? Possible ban from use and lawsuits.
This is now going worldwide. Write your Congressman? Nope. No laws have been passed. Just your own ISP's EULA. Good luck to the tech neophytes and, oh yes, the idiot here recently boasting about "Limewire" (Gnutella), Frostwire (same access, dope), and even the torrent clients.
Nope. As you can tell, I don't buy that argument at all. It died with the Shitallica round of lawsuits back in 2006.
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 30, 2011 7:45:19 PM
PERHAPS THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A HONEST WAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FUUUCCC??????EEEEENNNNNNNNNN RIPED OFF FROM THEM AND (OUR METAL FAITH) WITH ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING J.D DIAMOND THE COMMANDER.
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
Head banger wrote:
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
Edited at: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:55:36 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 30, 2011 5:03:03 PM
People who bought the single cuts are probably going to buy "The Chosen Few" which turns my stomach just typing this...."The Chosen Few"....oohhhh "other metal artists chose these same old tracks we've heard a trillion times" so we are supposed to get excited because of the new packaging with liner notes from these artists ect......its a huge rip off and I think it hurts the band putting out all these crappy "best of" bullshit. I agree with you Head Banger.
And I don't want K.K. back in the band....ever,if he decided to join again he would probably bring in more poison watering the next LP down as much as he can with experimental BULLSHIT. Stay retired,we don't want you back! I need one more studio album from Judas Priest and I don't want it fucked up by Mr. K.K. Nostradamus.
I wouldn't mind seeing the band quit playing live shows altogether and just make studio LPs from here on out.
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
[Head banger] Friday, September 30, 2011 7:47:30 AM
no and no
I have everything from single cuts already, why drop a bunch of cash on something for the shelf only? makes more sense to buy concert tix, so I did.
I dont care if kk comes back, I dont want 3 guitars. kk back and wanting to play great but he doesnt want it so he should stay retired and if you got a hundred thousand people to click the widgit you think kk cares about that? not a chance
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET.
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:01:20 PM
DID YOU BUY SINGLE CUTS AND DID YOU CLICK ON THE KK WIDGET. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:44:32 AM)
Head banger wrote:
ok, no telling. how about begging...
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
[Head banger] Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:44:32 AM
ok, no telling. how about begging... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:55:10 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:55:10 PM
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO.LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:00:38 PM)
Head banger wrote:
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ALIENS
THINK YOUR EVER GONNA REFORM ME
YOUVE GOT ANOTHER THING FUC?EN COMIN
[Head banger] Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:00:38 PM
could they reform you to confine your posts to one thread. create one....
Hellrider your fire font and 3 axe attack posts are getting old.
your cooler than that.... go back to the old rider....
[Head banger] Friday, September 23, 2011 10:35:34 PM
Hellrider your fire font and 3 axe attack posts are getting old.
your cooler than that.... go back to the old rider....
[guidogodoy] Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:51:35 AM
Sorry to read that one but you know what is odd? You CAN carry and use aluminum knitting needles on a flight (international or otherwise) originating from the US! I had a lady sitting next to me pull out a pair of 6" suckers on a recent flight and just had to confirm what she told me by looking it up with a few airlines. They take away fingernail clippers but yet you can carry a pair of long pointed metal spikes.
Granted, they'd probably take them away from ME no matter what the rules say but, then again, we all know that what is "on the books" often has nothing to do with reality. Especially when it comes to the TSA in the US.
Dear Hellrider:
I am so disappointed, and truly sorry to tell you that I spoke to my cop-acquaintance this afternoon and relayed your story to him. He proceeded to tell me that there was nothing to be done about the situation. Basically, your glove WAS a weapon in their minds and in the rule-books. The fact that they confiscated it without persuing anything meant that apparently, they did YOU a favour - had they written anything up, it would've gone through dispatch, and they could have hauled you downtown under arrest. He said this way they just confiscated the WEAPON, and let you off without you getting in a heap of trouble. I tried to plead your case, but dude had attitude about it...then informed me that the glove was most likely destroyed without filing any paperwork to SAVE you. (??????) That was that...I told him you were just a great guy who liked to represent his metal appreciation in his clothing and style and wouldn't hurt a fly...but it all fell on deaf ears. I was so pissed it wasn't funny. Needless to say, I'm not going to bother calling on him if I ever need help for ANYTHING. But I am going to start carrying around my knitting needles, just to see what happens, since THEY can be seen as WEAPONS also, probably even more dangerous than a spiked glove. So very very sorry, my friend...thought I could help, but struck out big time and now have less faith in the system than I did before. People just suck moose jizz bigtime. Thought he'd have been more understanding or helpful, but dude and his posse appear to have their nuts in a vice of prolific stupidity the likes of which I've never seen or heard. Don't loose the faith though, and don't stop being the awesome metal defender that you are. Again...so so sorry.
[metalgodess] Friday, September 16, 2011 10:10:06 PM
Dear Hellrider:
I am so disappointed, and truly sorry to tell you that I spoke to my cop-acquaintance this afternoon and relayed your story to him. He proceeded to tell me that there was nothing to be done about the situation. Basically, your glove WAS a weapon in their minds and in the rule-books. The fact that they confiscated it without persuing anything meant that apparently, they did YOU a favour - had they written anything up, it would've gone through dispatch, and they could have hauled you downtown under arrest. He said this way they just confiscated the WEAPON, and let you off without you getting in a heap of trouble. I tried to plead your case, but dude had attitude about it...then informed me that the glove was most likely destroyed without filing any paperwork to SAVE you. (??????) That was that...I told him you were just a great guy who liked to represent his metal appreciation in his clothing and style and wouldn't hurt a fly...but it all fell on deaf ears. I was so pissed it wasn't funny. Needless to say, I'm not going to bother calling on him if I ever need help for ANYTHING. But I am going to start carrying around my knitting needles, just to see what happens, since THEY can be seen as WEAPONS also, probably even more dangerous than a spiked glove. So very very sorry, my friend...thought I could help, but struck out big time and now have less faith in the system than I did before. People just suck moose jizz bigtime. Thought he'd have been more understanding or helpful, but dude and his posse appear to have their nuts in a vice of prolific stupidity the likes of which I've never seen or heard. Don't loose the faith though, and don't stop being the awesome metal defender that you are. Again...so so sorry.
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
If you can buy yourself knick-knacks and shit every single day - you can put some of that to help animals instead!
Thanks to all who cares!
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM
[spapad] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:42:52 PM
Thats the most digusting thing I've ever seen in my life. What organization can I donate to that would end this horrible enslavement and destruction of innocent bears? I have no words for the sadness I feel for what I just saw. How cruel can people be? Apparently they have no depth too low. Sickening.
Ooops I didn't see the foundation link through my tears. I will donate to this cause. This should never happen. It's not enough to be angry about it.
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
If you can buy yourself knick-knacks and shit every single day - you can put some of that to help animals instead!
Thanks to all who cares!
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:45:31 PM
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:38:55 PM
CANT REMEMBER IF IT HURT.HAPPENED LIKE BACK IN 1997. I WAS ALL WIRED ON MEEETTT TTTAAALLLL AND COCA COLA CLASSIC AT THE SAME TIME.LOL
YEAH I WILL KEEP THAT QUOTE IN MIND.LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 16, 2011 7:31:13 PM)
spapad wrote:
I just could not sew myself up without a curved needle and some lidocain! That must have hurt like a bitch to do on your own. Your made of stronger stuff than me, that's for certain. lol
Just remember if it happens again and the phone rings you have to tell them "I can't talk now, I'm bleeding" and then hang up on them with zero explaination. LMAO!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
LOL.THATS A GOOD ONE BLEEDING RIGHT NOW.LOL..DIDNT FEEL LIKE GOING TO THE CLINIC.LOL
spapad wrote:
Sewed it up yourself?
I couldn't do that. I used to have my Dad sew me up when he was available. I cut myself once sharpening a knife, and my grandmother was there. I told her to call my Dad to come home and sew me up. NO she said I'll call your mother, she'll know what to do. She called her and I could
hear her telling Mom about it and then I hear her say, Oh.........OK if you think that's best! My grandmother hung up the phone and I asked her, what my Mom said?........."She said to call your fathter". LOL She hated my Dad and didn't want to have to call him. She'd rather me sit there and bleed than call my Dad. LOL
When my Dad finally got home to sew me up, my friend called me.......my Grandmother answered the phone and Karen asked to speak to me and in a very proper and brisk way my Grandmother said "No, you may not speak to her, she's bleeding right now" and promptly slamed down the phone. My Grandmother was a hoot!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
REMINDS ME THE TIME I CUT MY FINGER TO THE BONE WITH A BRAND NEW HACKSAW BLADE.STITCHED IT UP MYSELF.AND I CUT A 1 INCH LONG PIECE OF METAL TUBEING AND WELDED A WASHER AT THE END THEN TAPED IT ON TO MY FINGER TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER AND PROTECT IT WHILE I WAS WORKING.WORKED BEAUTIFUL.
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:33:25 PM
MAY THEY ROOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT INNNNNNNNNNNNN
FUUUCCCC????????EEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN HEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
If you can buy yourself knick-knacks and shit every single day - you can put some of that to help animals instead!
Thanks to all who cares!
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM
[spapad] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:31:13 PM
I just could not sew myself up without a curved needle and some lidocain! That must have hurt like a bitch to do on your own. Your made of stronger stuff than me, that's for certain. lol
Just remember if it happens again and the phone rings you have to tell them "I can't talk now, I'm bleeding" and then hang up on them with zero explaination. LMAO!
LOL.THATS A GOOD ONE BLEEDING RIGHT NOW.LOL..DIDNT FEEL LIKE GOING TO THE CLINIC.LOL
spapad wrote:
Sewed it up yourself?
I couldn't do that. I used to have my Dad sew me up when he was available. I cut myself once sharpening a knife, and my grandmother was there. I told her to call my Dad to come home and sew me up. NO she said I'll call your mother, she'll know what to do. She called her and I could
hear her telling Mom about it and then I hear her say, Oh.........OK if you think that's best! My grandmother hung up the phone and I asked her, what my Mom said?........."She said to call your fathter". LOL She hated my Dad and didn't want to have to call him. She'd rather me sit there and bleed than call my Dad. LOL
When my Dad finally got home to sew me up, my friend called me.......my Grandmother answered the phone and Karen asked to speak to me and in a very proper and brisk way my Grandmother said "No, you may not speak to her, she's bleeding right now" and promptly slamed down the phone. My Grandmother was a hoot!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
REMINDS ME THE TIME I CUT MY FINGER TO THE BONE WITH A BRAND NEW HACKSAW BLADE.STITCHED IT UP MYSELF.AND I CUT A 1 INCH LONG PIECE OF METAL TUBEING AND WELDED A WASHER AT THE END THEN TAPED IT ON TO MY FINGER TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER AND PROTECT IT WHILE I WAS WORKING.WORKED BEAUTIFUL.
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:27:21 PM
LOL.THATS A GOOD ONE BLEEDING RIGHT NOW.LOL..DIDNT FEEL LIKE GOING TO THE CLINIC.LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, September 16, 2011 7:13:59 PM)
spapad wrote:
Sewed it up yourself?
I couldn't do that. I used to have my Dad sew me up when he was available. I cut myself once sharpening a knife, and my grandmother was there. I told her to call my Dad to come home and sew me up. NO she said I'll call your mother, she'll know what to do. She called her and I could
hear her telling Mom about it and then I hear her say, Oh.........OK if you think that's best! My grandmother hung up the phone and I asked her, what my Mom said?........."She said to call your fathter". LOL She hated my Dad and didn't want to have to call him. She'd rather me sit there and bleed than call my Dad. LOL
When my Dad finally got home to sew me up, my friend called me.......my Grandmother answered the phone and Karen asked to speak to me and in a very proper and brisk way my Grandmother said "No, you may not speak to her, she's bleeding right now" and promptly slamed down the phone. My Grandmother was a hoot!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
REMINDS ME THE TIME I CUT MY FINGER TO THE BONE WITH A BRAND NEW HACKSAW BLADE.STITCHED IT UP MYSELF.AND I CUT A 1 INCH LONG PIECE OF METAL TUBEING AND WELDED A WASHER AT THE END THEN TAPED IT ON TO MY FINGER TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER AND PROTECT IT WHILE I WAS WORKING.WORKED BEAUTIFUL.
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
[spapad] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:13:59 PM
Sewed it up yourself?
I couldn't do that. I used to have my Dad sew me up when he was available. I cut myself once sharpening a knife, and my grandmother was there. I told her to call my Dad to come home and sew me up. NO she said I'll call your mother, she'll know what to do. She called her and I could
hear her telling Mom about it and then I hear her say, Oh.........OK if you think that's best! My grandmother hung up the phone and I asked her, what my Mom said?........."She said to call your fathter". LOL She hated my Dad and didn't want to have to call him. She'd rather me sit there and bleed than call my Dad. LOL
When my Dad finally got home to sew me up, my friend called me.......my Grandmother answered the phone and Karen asked to speak to me and in a very proper and brisk way my Grandmother said "No, you may not speak to her, she's bleeding right now" and promptly slamed down the phone. My Grandmother was a hoot!
REMINDS ME THE TIME I CUT MY FINGER TO THE BONE WITH A BRAND NEW HACKSAW BLADE.STITCHED IT UP MYSELF.AND I CUT A 1 INCH LONG PIECE OF METAL TUBEING AND WELDED A WASHER AT THE END THEN TAPED IT ON TO MY FINGER TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER AND PROTECT IT WHILE I WAS WORKING.WORKED BEAUTIFUL.
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 16, 2011 7:03:46 PM
REMINDS ME THE TIME I CUT MY FINGER TO THE BONE WITH A BRAND NEW HACKSAW BLADE.STITCHED IT UP MYSELF.AND I CUT A 1 INCH LONG PIECE OF METAL TUBEING AND WELDED A WASHER AT THE END THEN TAPED IT ON TO MY FINGER TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER AND PROTECT IT WHILE I WAS WORKING.WORKED BEAUTIFUL.
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
[hellrider 31038] Friday, September 16, 2011 6:55:42 PM
THAT RED PAINT PEN I BOUGHT IS FUC?EN PINK.TOTALLY WASTED MY MONEY ON THAT FUC?EN SHIT.
bread bag, zip lock bag, plastic grocery bag..............any of these will work. I've had that happen to me too. Some kind asshole was too lazy to clean up a broken drink glass one time, but I found it when I was cleaning up that night. Took a huge chunk out of my thumb..................then there was the time..........lol Yep, happened several times over the years. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Mr. Dave Genocide from Friday, September 16, 2011 2:32:49 PM)
Mr. Dave Genocide wrote:
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 6:06:39 PM
[Mr. Dave Genocide] Friday, September 16, 2011 2:32:49 PM
Sliced my finger open at work cutting bread.. Hmm, smart, eh? Haha Oh well, got paid to go to Urgent Care and it was all taken care of by work.. Only 3 stitches, nothing too harsh, just a bummer cos I haven't showered in 2 days!! I need a damn plastic bag to put around my hand! Someone spare me a bag?
[Anders Haneskog] Friday, September 16, 2011 10:52:16 AM
I´m so angry and want everybody to understand that life is not just rock n roll, party and judas priest!
There are certain things that need to be said:
In asia they have somthing called bearfarms. In these farms bears are keep for their whole life, maybe for 25 years.
The bears are kept there to be used as living sacrifices to the industry of bear biling. They do surgical operations on the poor animals bodys and drain them of bile - WITHOUT any form of sedation.
They are kept in tiny cages for years without relief!
Think for yourself - how would it feel to be looked up for the rest of your life in a cage that is circa 4 times 3 feet and everyday have to go through surgery WITHOUT sedation everyday, never to be able to kill yourself to get away.
I know what you are thinking! What has this to do with Judas Priest?
Well, first - is something, anything pissing you up, say it here...
Secondly - this is so important that I really don´t give a damn!
Look at this clips and if you have a heart - do something about it!
If you can buy yourself knick-knacks and shit every single day - you can put some of that to help animals instead!
Thanks to all who cares!
Edited at: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM
[Budred] Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:07:55 AM
"The Chosen Few"
I should have had my coffee before I signed on today.
I've had nothing but anger about everything I'm reading.
If anyone has a chill pill, send it my way please.
[guidogodoy] Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:58:03 PM
Wow, now wouln't THAT be cool!! Longshot, I'll admit, but were you able to get ol' Hellrider's pride and glory glove back, that would be WAAAAAY KEWL!
Many of you remember me getting my favorite ring snagged by a hospital (yeah, the $10 ring I got re-chromed for about $20 lol) and the long battle calling everyone and their brother to get it back. Miracles do come true as it did re-appear. Here's hoping the glove does as well!!!
HELLLLLLLRIDERRRRRR!!!!!!! NEVER FEAR MY FRIEND - I AM GOING TO TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH A COP-ACQUAINTANCE-FRIEND OF MINE FROM TORONTO'S 52 DIVISION, AND SEE WHAT IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING OUT ABOUT THIS BULL$HIT SITUATION. I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TRY TO REUNITE THE STUDDED GLOVE TO THE DEFENDER. PM ME AND LET ME KNOW EXACTLY TIME AND LOCATION. KEEP THE FAITH MY METAL BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[metalgodess] Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:28:32 PM
HELLLLLLLRIDERRRRRR!!!!!!! NEVER FEAR MY FRIEND - I AM GOING TO TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH A COP-ACQUAINTANCE-FRIEND OF MINE FROM TORONTO'S 52 DIVISION, AND SEE WHAT IF I CAN FIND ANYTHING OUT ABOUT THIS BULL$HIT SITUATION. I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TRY TO REUNITE THE STUDDED GLOVE TO THE DEFENDER. PM ME AND LET ME KNOW EXACTLY TIME AND LOCATION. KEEP THE FAITH MY METAL BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:48:29 PM
THERE SO FULL OF SHI? OVER THERE . JUST A WASTE OF MY TIME.CALLED UP THAT NIGHT ASKING IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL WHO WAS AT THAT LOCATION THE TIME I WAS THERE AND THEY SAID THERE IS NO
WAY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL UNLESS I HAD A BADGE NUMBER AND SHE TOLD ME THEY
WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN IT AWAY UNLESS I WAS WAVING IT AROUND.I WAS RIDING MY BIKE FOR FUC? SAKES.
ITS PROBABLY LYING IN AS? WIPES WASTE PAPER BASKET RIGHT NOW COVERED IN COFFEE WITH A COFFEE CUP ON TOP OF IT LISTENING TO FUC?EN
EASY ROCK
JUST WIPED A TEAR FROM THE CORNER OF MY EYE
WE WILL BE TOGETHER IN HEAVEN
should have strangled him with a shoelace. go to the local district office and complain.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE HEAR NOW .. WAS DESPERATE TO KEEP IT I WAS DRAGGING THE CONVERSATION ON HOPING THEY WOULD JUST LET ME KEEP IT.TOLD THEM I WOULD GRIND THE RIVOTS OFF THAT HOLD THE SPIKES ON WITH MY DREMEL.DID NOT WORK
NEEEEXXXTTTTTTTTTTTTT TIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE WIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL BE DIFFERENT
Head banger wrote:
should have told him "you got another think coming"!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
That seemed to have been an illegal confiscation on the part of the officer, HR. This comes directly from Canada's legal code on the subject:
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39. The following goods generally do not meet the definition of a prohibited weapon, and thus do not fall under TI 9898.00.00. Their misuse may nonetheless be punishable under other laws:
(a) cloth, nylon or plastic wristbands which may be weak and not effective as weapons;
(b) wristbands with dull ‘studs’ which may not be effective as weapons;
(c) spiked necklaces, ankle bracelets, belts, boots, spiked gloves and gauntlets or any other item of jewellery or clothing to which spikes are affixed.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
THE METAL MONSTER WHEELS ARE SPINNING IN MY HEAD
[Head banger] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:21:54 PM
should have strangled him with a shoelace. go to the local district office and complain. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:42:55 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE HEAR NOW .. WAS DESPERATE TO KEEP IT I WAS DRAGGING THE CONVERSATION ON HOPING THEY WOULD JUST LET ME KEEP IT.TOLD THEM I WOULD GRIND THE RIVOTS OFF THAT HOLD THE SPIKES ON WITH MY DREMEL.DID NOT WORK
NEEEEXXXTTTTTTTTTTTTT TIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE WIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL BE DIFFERENT
Head banger wrote:
should have told him "you got another think coming"!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
That seemed to have been an illegal confiscation on the part of the officer, HR. This comes directly from Canada's legal code on the subject:
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39. The following goods generally do not meet the definition of a prohibited weapon, and thus do not fall under TI 9898.00.00. Their misuse may nonetheless be punishable under other laws:
(a) cloth, nylon or plastic wristbands which may be weak and not effective as weapons;
(b) wristbands with dull ‘studs’ which may not be effective as weapons;
(c) spiked necklaces, ankle bracelets, belts, boots, spiked gloves and gauntlets or any other item of jewellery or clothing to which spikes are affixed.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
THE METAL MONSTER WHEELS ARE SPINNING IN MY HEAD
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:34:35 PM
THEY WERE 2 OF THEM ONE EARLY THIRTYS AND ONE LATE FOURTYS.
YEAH DEFINATLY KEEPING THAT INFO GUIDO FOUND IN MY WALLET NEXT TIME THEY PULL ME OVER
GOING TO LOOK MORE INTO ALSO SO I CAN FEEL AT TOTAL PEACE. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:23:30 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Must'a been a rookie. But yeah, keep the info that Guido gave you for the next time it happens to you, and ask other people that dress as you do (friends or family) to see if they've faced a similar event as yours. It's possible that you're not the only one. Good luck!
hellrider 31038 wrote:
I WAS CRUSING DOWN THE ROAD ON MY BIKE AND HE WHISTLED AT ME.SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THERE NAMES.APPARENTLY THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO TAKE IT.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
THAT SUCKS!!
How the heck did the officer nab you in the first place? Did he just spot you studded with spikes all over from his car and pulled you over, or were you walking by him and he stopped you then and there?
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
THE METAL MONSTER WHEELS ARE SPINNING IN MY HEAD
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:23:30 PM
Must'a been a rookie. But yeah, keep the info that Guido gave you for the next time it happens to you, and ask other people that dress as you do (friends or family) to see if they've faced a similar event as yours. It's possible that you're not the only one. Good luck!
I WAS CRUSING DOWN THE ROAD ON MY BIKE AND HE WHISTLED AT ME.SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THERE NAMES.APPARENTLY THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO TAKE IT.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
THAT SUCKS!!
How the heck did the officer nab you in the first place? Did he just spot you studded with spikes all over from his car and pulled you over, or were you walking by him and he stopped you then and there?
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
THE METAL MONSTER WHEELS ARE SPINNING IN MY HEAD
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:15:55 PM
I WAS CRUSING DOWN THE ROAD ON MY BIKE AND HE WHISTLED AT ME.SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THERE NAMES.APPARENTLY THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO TAKE IT. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:10:47 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
THAT SUCKS!!
How the heck did the officer nab you in the first place? Did he just spot you studded with spikes all over from his car and pulled you over, or were you walking by him and he stopped you then and there?
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
THE METAL MONSTER WHEELS ARE SPINNING IN MY HEAD
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:10:56 PM
I WONDER WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP.I AM READY FOR SOME ACTION ARE YOU
SAW SOMETHING ON EVENTFULL SITE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF PROBABLY A TOTAL WASTE
Rant:
I've been a Priest fan for may years but their management sucks when it comes to promoting their concerts. I live in Brasilia, Brazil, when Iron Maiden came through here a few months ago there were billboard concert ads, radio announcements 5x/day, whole I.M. albums played on our cable tv digital music (Globo FM) for a week or two leading up to the concert.
Judas Priest- NADDA!!! no signage, no radio ads, no albums played on our digital cable music....NOTHING! and they wonder why few come to their shows...hmmmm
I guarantee when Priest comes to Brasilia it will be a gost town compared to when Iron Maiden came.
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:10:47 PM
THAT SUCKS!!
How the heck did the officer nab you in the first place? Did he just spot you studded with spikes all over from his car and pulled you over, or were you walking by him and he stopped you then and there?
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
THE METAL MONSTER WHEELS ARE SPINNING IN MY HEAD
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:01:54 PM
I GUESS THEY JUST DONT LIKE IT AND MAKE THERE OWN LAWS HEY.KEEP A COPY OF THAT IN MY WALLET FOR THE NEXT TIME THANK YOU
SO BASICALLY THEY ARE SAYING ITS NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS YOU USE IT AS A WEAPON FROM MY UNDERSTANDING [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, September 07, 2011 6:52:39 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
That seemed to have been an illegal confiscation on the part of the officer, HR. This comes directly from Canada's legal code on the subject:
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39. The following goods generally do not meet the definition of a prohibited weapon, and thus do not fall under TI 9898.00.00. Their misuse may nonetheless be punishable under other laws:
(a) cloth, nylon or plastic wristbands which may be weak and not effective as weapons;
(b) wristbands with dull ‘studs’ which may not be effective as weapons;
(c) spiked necklaces, ankle bracelets, belts, boots, spiked gloves and gauntlets or any other item of jewellery or clothing to which spikes are affixed.
hellrider 31038 wrote:
ONE OF MY SPIKE GLOVES JUST GOT CONFISCATED RIDING HOME FROM A DENTAL APPOINTMENT
I AM FUUUUUCCCC???????EEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH WELL HE GOT MY CHEAP ONE IT DID NOT MATCH MY OTHER SMALL ONE
AND I GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM
SAID HE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY ATTIRE AND SPIKES ON MY HELMET IT WAS ONLY THE FIST
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS I CAN GET BIGGER SPIKES FOR THE HELMET AND I CAN WEAR MORE SPIKES AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT ON MY FIST.
DONT BOTHER ANYONE AND THEY FUC?????????? YOU AROUND
