| [MotherSun] Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:02:02 PM | |
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| It would have to be Demolition since it's so mediocore and doesn't have any solid stand outs that Jugulator, Turbo, and Ram it down had which kinda balanced them out to make them listenable and enjoyable amist the few crappy songs. |
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| [Dissident.Aggressor] Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:55:50 PM | |
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Nostradamus is my least favourite album - not because it's not a great album (after playing Metal for so many years,it's quite understandable that they want to experiment), but because it's not the Priest I truely love.
As far as The Ripper Years are concerned - his voice kept the Halford spirit alive for 8 years - we all should thank him for that. My second favourite active vocalist today ! Let's hope that it will be quite some time, before he becomes my first favourite... |
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| [heykyleinsf] Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:56:07 AM | |
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| Take your pick of any Ripper ones..
Sorry.. didn't work for me.
With Rob, my least favorites were
Ram it down then Turbo |
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| [sadwings76] Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:57:29 PM | |
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| Weak or worst? personally the weakest for me was Turbo. Dont get me wrong, I love Turbo, but it just didnt have that priest groove to it, it was too.....normal, everday 80's metal. The worst album...I decided on the worst album by going through the track lists and tallying wich songs I liked and naturally the album with the least amount of enjoyable songs is the worst....very simple. For me it is Jugulator, only two songs I was able to enjoy. the rest, everything was just bad, bad lyrics, sloppy music, unimaginative solos. The ripper era Priest wasnt Priest in my opinion, Anyway Im supposed to be commenting on the worst or weakest Priest album and here I am bashing Ripper who held Priest together and like a man stepped down when asked...my apologies. |
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Monday, February 14, 2011 4:50:43 AM | |
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I wrote nothing about Ram It Down in that post!  I only wrote about Sin After Sin in general.
I've never thought RID to be a bad album, it's got those killer cuts like the title track, Hard as Iron and Blood Red Skies, just as you wrote there. The intro for Heavy Metal is also great, a precursor to Metal Meltdown, and the song is not that bad, although it would be lot better without the synths. I've always had a liking for Come and Get It, I'm a Rocker and Monsters of Rock as well. Johnny B. Goode might not do justice to the original but it's a decent one, and it's perfect in my MP3 player when I don't concentrate on the music much. Pretty much the only bad songs are Love Zone and Love You to Death.
Music-wise, it's a decent album, although some of the songs tend to be a bit unimaginative. Certainly not the worst the band has spilled out.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JudasRyan777 from Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:53:12 PM)| |  | JudasRyan777 wrote: | | are you nuts??? Ram it down is fucking killer with great tracks like " Ram it down " " Blood read skies" and of course the great Hard as Iron... although the Chuck Berry cover does ruing the record to be honest
| | | NupeTheJawbreaker wrote: | | Tuffv: Well, there's always the Judas Priest Info Pages that have much insight in all of the albums and the band's history in general: maddrakket.com/SINAFTERSIN.html
Maple Syrup: thanks for adding that up, never read the facts about Bink's resignation that thoroughly.
Personally, I think that Sin After Sin is very underrated as an album, just like the follow-up Stained Class. For me, this era was Judas Priest-style heavy metal at its purest, before the almost-pop sounding Killing Machine. With the first double-bass drummer ever in the band (instead of the jazz drummers before), the tempos were getting up (listen to Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey and you know what I mean), there was much less progressive rock influence than on the first two LPs, and Glenn and K.K. started to create some really great riffs. Sinner, Starbreaker, the excellent cover of Diamonds and Rust, Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey, Dissident Aggressor, all heavy songs indeed. Dissident Aggressor has that memorable extremely-high piched scream by Rob, probably the highest that has been put on a studio album. Here Come the Tears starts up slow but ends in full power, kind of a proto-power ballad. Raw Deal has some good guitarwork but is still mid-paced and quite long, a remnant from the earlier progressive-influenced days. And then there's one of the few actual Priest ballads (not a power ballad), Last Rose of Summer, making you calm down before the blistering drums of Let Us Prey kick in. All in all an excellent record that has been unjustifiably forgotten because most of the tracks aren't played live often, just like Stained Class. |
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| [JudasRyan777] Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:53:12 PM | |
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are you nuts??? Ram it down is fucking killer with great tracks like " Ram it down " " Blood read skies" and of course the great Hard as Iron... although the Chuck Berry cover does ruing the record to be honest
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by NupeTheJawbreaker from Friday, February 04, 2011 3:42:38 PM)| | | NupeTheJawbreaker wrote: | | Tuffv: Well, there's always the Judas Priest Info Pages that have much insight in all of the albums and the band's history in general: maddrakket.com/SINAFTERSIN.html
Maple Syrup: thanks for adding that up, never read the facts about Bink's resignation that thoroughly.
Personally, I think that Sin After Sin is very underrated as an album, just like the follow-up Stained Class. For me, this era was Judas Priest-style heavy metal at its purest, before the almost-pop sounding Killing Machine. With the first double-bass drummer ever in the band (instead of the jazz drummers before), the tempos were getting up (listen to Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey and you know what I mean), there was much less progressive rock influence than on the first two LPs, and Glenn and K.K. started to create some really great riffs. Sinner, Starbreaker, the excellent cover of Diamonds and Rust, Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey, Dissident Aggressor, all heavy songs indeed. Dissident Aggressor has that memorable extremely-high piched scream by Rob, probably the highest that has been put on a studio album. Here Come the Tears starts up slow but ends in full power, kind of a proto-power ballad. Raw Deal has some good guitarwork but is still mid-paced and quite long, a remnant from the earlier progressive-influenced days. And then there's one of the few actual Priest ballads (not a power ballad), Last Rose of Summer, making you calm down before the blistering drums of Let Us Prey kick in. All in all an excellent record that has been unjustifiably forgotten because most of the tracks aren't played live often, just like Stained Class. |
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| [JudasRyan777] Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:47:48 PM | |
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| in the halford Era 74 - 90 I would say Point of entry if it wasn't for Hot rockin'... |
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| [metalmaz] Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:57:28 AM | |
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| I'm sticking to the Halford era.
Nostraboreus closely followed by Ram It Down |
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 04, 2011 3:42:38 PM | |
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Tuffv: Well, there's always the Judas Priest Info Pages that have much insight in all of the albums and the band's history in general: maddrakket.com/SINAFTERSIN.html
Maple Syrup: thanks for adding that up, never read the facts about Bink's resignation that thoroughly.
Personally, I think that Sin After Sin is very underrated as an album, just like the follow-up Stained Class. For me, this era was Judas Priest-style heavy metal at its purest, before the almost-pop sounding Killing Machine. With the first double-bass drummer ever in the band (instead of the jazz drummers before), the tempos were getting up (listen to Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey and you know what I mean), there was much less progressive rock influence than on the first two LPs, and Glenn and K.K. started to create some really great riffs. Sinner, Starbreaker, the excellent cover of Diamonds and Rust, Call for the Priest/Let Us Prey, Dissident Aggressor, all heavy songs indeed. Dissident Aggressor has that memorable extremely-high piched scream by Rob, probably the highest that has been put on a studio album. Here Come the Tears starts up slow but ends in full power, kind of a proto-power ballad. Raw Deal has some good guitarwork but is still mid-paced and quite long, a remnant from the earlier progressive-influenced days. And then there's one of the few actual Priest ballads (not a power ballad), Last Rose of Summer, making you calm down before the blistering drums of Let Us Prey kick in. All in all an excellent record that has been unjustifiably forgotten because most of the tracks aren't played live often, just like Stained Class. |
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| [Maple Syrup] Friday, February 04, 2011 12:27:27 PM | |
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Nupe:
Wanted to chime in on the Les Binks thing. It is well known Priest wasnt happy with Les Binks live performance and felt he was more of a session or studio drummer. It is pretty apparent in the bootlegs from 77-79 that Les didnt cut the mustard live. You can look into this at the jp info pages.
IMO: Holland brought a tight and detailed thump that Priest sorely missed, especially live. MpleSyrp Edited at: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:27:51 PM
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| [tuffy-77] Friday, February 04, 2011 12:20:39 PM | |
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hahahaha yeah I knew that about Scott Travis. I had a momentary brain fart.
1990 "Painkiller" enters, Scott Travis.
Does anybody know what Rob, KK, Glenn have to say about Sin After Sin?
Maybe a link to an interview discussing that album.
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Thanks for the small "Phillips" history.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by NupeTheJawbreaker from Friday, February 04, 2011 9:17:41 AM)| | | NupeTheJawbreaker wrote: | | "Simon was a great drummer. Why they didn't keep him I don'know. But I also like their latest drummer that's been with them since after Sin After Sin."
Actually, the band would have wanted to keep Simon Phillips as their drummer, but he declined because of other commitments. They eventually had Les Binks with them for the next two years, until the band decided that they needed a more straight-forward drummer. In came Dave Holland, who lasted through the whole 80s, before he quit because of health and personal reasons. Since then Scott Travis has been the band's drummer.
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Friday, February 04, 2011 9:17:41 AM | |
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"Simon was a great drummer. Why they didn't keep him I don'know. But I also like their latest drummer that's been with them since after Sin After Sin."
Actually, the band would have wanted to keep Simon Phillips as their drummer, but he declined because of other commitments. They eventually had Les Binks with them for the next two years, until the band decided that they needed a more straight-forward drummer. In came Dave Holland, who lasted through the whole 80s, before he quit because of health and personal reasons. Since then Scott Travis has been the band's drummer.
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| [tuffy-77] Friday, February 04, 2011 8:35:42 AM | |
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Hey yeah and thanks for the welcome. One of the rumors I've heard about was the reason for an unusual great Priest album was because
something to the lines of complications in record label at the time. Their deal with the previous 2 records reached a negative situation thus they entered into a new management
and record deal which obviously didn't last. The new Priest sound didn't last at least in U.S.A. The album did have a touch of almost a southern rock feel to it and It was either dismissed or ignored. I love everything about this album. Simon was a great drummer. Why they didn't keep him I don'know. But I also like their latest drummer that's been with them since after Sin After Sin.
Never the less it's still a great release to some Priest fans I know. I knew the album was different but I also fell in love with it because I imagined the awesomeness power of the riffs. I knew for some reason these tunes would just crank out live. If you or any other members here could help out in this "history" part of Judas Priest would be awesome.
I'll get my young friend in here and get him researching himself soon.
Thanks in advance.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by sentinel84 from Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:59:49 PM)| | | sentinel84 wrote: | | hey and welcome! I think sin after sin is my favorite 70's judas priest album and my second overall favorite (next to defenders) its a very dark album with very heavy riffs that were way before its time. Sure it does have some weak moments on it (raw deal) but it still is freakin great. Definately a good topic to write a paper on
| | | tuffy-77 wrote: | | Hello, I'm new here and have been a Priest fan for quite a few years. My love for JP has been since "Deffenders Of The Faith" all the way through "Painkeller"
Not too familiar with the newer stuff except that of "A Touch Of Evil" the latest live that I know of. I have one question for a paper that I'm helping a young Priest fan write
for an Eng Comp.2 college course.
What do you guys think of the "Sin After Sin" the third Priest album? I personaly love the album and also feel like it's an underrated album. My young Priest fan feels the same way.
And that is the topic of his paper (Underrated) and he's doing it on Judas Priest's Sin After Sin. I tend to agree with him, but why"
So, what do you guys really think of "Sin After Sin", seriously? |
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| [sentinel84] Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:59:49 PM | |
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hey and welcome! I think sin after sin is my favorite 70's judas priest album and my second overall favorite (next to defenders) its a very dark album with very heavy riffs that were way before its time. Sure it does have some weak moments on it (raw deal) but it still is freakin great. Definately a good topic to write a paper on
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by tuffy-77 from Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:38:47 PM)| | | tuffy-77 wrote: | | Hello, I'm new here and have been a Priest fan for quite a few years. My love for JP has been since "Deffenders Of The Faith" all the way through "Painkeller"
Not too familiar with the newer stuff except that of "A Touch Of Evil" the latest live that I know of. I have one question for a paper that I'm helping a young Priest fan write
for an Eng Comp.2 college course.
What do you guys think of the "Sin After Sin" the third Priest album? I personaly love the album and also feel like it's an underrated album. My young Priest fan feels the same way.
And that is the topic of his paper (Underrated) and he's doing it on Judas Priest's Sin After Sin. I tend to agree with him, but why"
So, what do you guys really think of "Sin After Sin", seriously? |
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| [tuffy-77] Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:38:47 PM | |
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Hello, I'm new here and have been a Priest fan for quite a few years. My love for JP has been since "Deffenders Of The Faith" all the way through "Painkeller"
Not too familiar with the newer stuff except that of "A Touch Of Evil" the latest live that I know of. I have one question for a paper that I'm helping a young Priest fan write
for an Eng Comp.2 college course.
What do you guys think of the "Sin After Sin" the third Priest album? I personaly love the album and also feel like it's an underrated album. My young Priest fan feels the same way.
And that is the topic of his paper (Underrated) and he's doing it on Judas Priest's Sin After Sin. I tend to agree with him, but why"
So, what do you guys really think of "Sin After Sin", seriously? |
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:09:00 AM | |
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The one found on this site (under "Tour Info") is the official listing, and contains all of the shows announced so far. You can't get a more accurate one because they simply haven't yet announced any more concerts (but they surely will). Don't worry, I'm sure they'll announce the US dates early enough so that people can plan well ahead.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JudasRyan777 from Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:33:45 AM)| | | JudasRyan777 wrote: | | | Well, I was wondering about the current epitaph tour dates, I'm trying to see them as much as possible during their last tour and I don't have an accurate tour plan + the tour dates for USA are not even listed |
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| [JudasRyan777] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:33:45 AM | |
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| Well, I was wondering about the current epitaph tour dates, I'm trying to see them as much as possible during their last tour and I don't have an accurate tour plan + the tour dates for USA are not even listed |
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| [MJ66] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:10:57 AM | |
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I have to admit I kind of went off Priest after Rob left. Not that I couldn't appreciate Ripper, but after seeing just about every tour with Rob, well it didn't seem like Priest anymore. So is it unfair to say that the Ripper years were my least fave when I didn't really give them much of a listen? I do like "Close to You" a lot, but agree that if Rob had done it, it would be a truly amazing song!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Sunday, January 30, 2011 12:54:05 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I think we all know what Jugulator was about, trying to prove to Rob that Priest could be as heavy as anyone. They accomplished that for sure, but the only song I really like on it is Cathedral Spires. I thought with Demolition, they came back to being Priest once again. Unfortunately, Ripper just doesn't have the ability to come up with a great melody to sing the song. He can sing for sure and he kept Priest alive. I will forever be grateful to him for that. The songs were really pretty good on Demolition, they had all the structure, they just needed help with the way they were sung. "Close To You" is an incredible song, written from the heart. Rob could have really done that song justice, but Ripper fell short in my opinion.
The only Priest album that I have ever put on and was disappointed in was Turbo. The only song on that album that I like is "Out In The Cold" - which is a GREAT opening number. So for me, it's a tie between Jugulator and Turbo. (Quoting Message by soccer star from Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:11:21 AM)
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Jugulator and Demolition are bottom of my list.There were Afew good track's but even Glen said Jugulator was Priest trying to be something they were not.
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:26:07 AM | |
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Sad to hear, didn't know the full story behind the site.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, January 31, 2011 6:38:15 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Um...probably because Madrakket passed on. The site was simply uploaded and left untouched by his friends years ago.
| | | NupeTheJawbreaker wrote: | | http://maddrakket.com/MENU.html#ALBUMS
Click on each of the (studio) album covers and you can see all the tour dates for that particular album. Doesn't contain info about the Nostradamus or British Steel 30th Anniversary tours, though.
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| [guidogodoy] Monday, January 31, 2011 6:38:15 PM | |
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Um...probably because Madrakket passed on. The site was simply uploaded and left untouched by his friends years ago.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by NupeTheJawbreaker from Monday, January 31, 2011 1:35:52 PM)| | | NupeTheJawbreaker wrote: | | http://maddrakket.com/MENU.html#ALBUMS
Click on each of the (studio) album covers and you can see all the tour dates for that particular album. Doesn't contain info about the Nostradamus or British Steel 30th Anniversary tours, though.
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