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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:38:40 PM
Finally confirmed,the new Saxon album will be called "Call To Arms" and should be out in April! Edited at: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:47:02 PM
[jimmyjames] Monday, January 03, 2011 5:24:05 PM
Well I purchased Lionheart yesterday and have listened to it twice so far. Have to say it was pretty good and I'm sure it will get even better with a few more listens.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 5:17:02 PM
Oh yeah,make no mistake about it Saxon "fucked up thier career" in the 80's from "crap" like Ride Like The Wind. The band's first 5 studio LPs are cool but they actually have 6 straight albums that are not good from Crusader 1984 to Forever Free 1992 then they turned thier career around starting from 1995 Dogs Of War album till now.
But yeah they really "sucked" in the mid to late 80's man,they were a freakin "joke" but people still think they are like that but they are not. Biff even said he wishes that he never "sold out" to the American market with the MTV glam rock scene,he said he regrets it very much and wishes that those albums were better,he doesn't even like the 1986 "Rock The Nations" album at all,as hecan't stand to listen to it. Saxon's Biff Byford always says that Saxon plays a mix between traditional british heavy metal that fits into the category with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden but they also have half thier albums that is traditional "rock" as well. Slow Lane Blues is a bluesey track off the new album and its a classic.
Thanks to Tina from Walsall England for getting me into Saxon in 2005,Tina you rock!
Sweet, thanks for the advice. I actually played Man and Machine on my show a couple of weeks ago. Cool track. A lot of their stuff is good. I have changed my tune about Saxon a bit since I realised they weren't all about that Ride Like The Wind shit.
Edited at: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:26:04 PM
[jimmyjames] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:37:07 PM
Sweet, thanks for the advice. I actually played Man and Machine on my show a couple of weeks ago. Cool track. A lot of their stuff is good. I have changed my tune about Saxon a bit since I realised they weren't all about that Ride Like The Wind shit.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:12:08 PM
Man And Machine -Lionheart
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:09:34 PM
Saxon - To live By The Sword - 2004 Lionheart This song totally kicks ass! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:42:44 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I am going to by a couple of Saxons later albums and check them out.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 31, 2010 4:00:25 PM
Thats cool Jimmy. With a "couple" meaning "2" then if I had to recommend an album to check out it would be 2004's "Lionheart". The next album I would check out is 2007's "The Inner Sanctum". Those are Saxon's best 2 albums but only in my opinion,there are some songs that are better than others as like all albums but on those 2 albums I actually like every song on both albums,that is very unusual for me.
Usually there are at least 2 songs out of 10 that I end up not liking,but like every track on both LPs. You may find a couple of tracks on these LPs that you don't like but hopefully you'll like the majority of both albums,you should still get 8 songs off each album that are quality and 8 songs makes up an album's worth at least.
I am going to by a couple of Saxons later albums and check them out.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
Edited at: Friday, December 31, 2010 4:01:45 PM
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:42:44 PM
I am going to by a couple of Saxons later albums and check them out. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:54:34 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:54:34 AM
Saxon - Valley Of The Kings - Into The Labyrinth - 2009 Another excellent Saxon track of quality and consistancy.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:14:14 AM
Saxon Demon Sweeny Todd - 2009 Into The Labyrinth album - totally kick ass British Heavy Metal! Edited at: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:14:28 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, December 27, 2010 4:42:13 PM
BATALLIONS OF STEEL - first track off the current album Into The Labyrinth(2009)one of Saxon's top 10 best tracks ever written. Judas Priest will always be the Godfathers of British Heavy Metal but with thier retirement Saxon takes the torch and continues heavy metal's traditional paths. Edited at: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:45:25 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, December 27, 2010 4:38:37 PM
Who would of thought back in the 80's that it would be Saxon that ended up ontop of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden in writting "quality" and "traditional" british heavy metal albums and with quality consistancy? I always thought that in the end Priest and Maiden would shape up in time to release thier best albums late in thier career but it has been anything but that.
Saxon is the band out of the 3 that ended up writting thier best material at this stage in thier career and with them giving thier fans a 19th studio album in March 2011 they haven't yet said anything about retireing but if they do at least we will get this new studio LP,that is fucking awsome!
I'll bet that Saxon will record thier 20th studio album in 2013,they are extremely motivated when it comes to writting albums. If this new studio album turns out excellent in quality ect...then they will have 8 studio albums in a row that are the band's best material,we'll wait and see.
The only reason there is a 3 year gap between 2001 and 2004 is because the label wanted Saxon to record "Heavy Metal Thunder" which is a re-recorded CD of tracks from the 80's and there is a 3 year gap between 2004 and 2007 because Biff's house burnt down in France,otherwise there would be an album every 2 years and actually there would be yet even another studio album out.
Dogs Of War ---------------1995
Unleash The Beast-------1997
Metalhead-------------------1999
Killing Ground--------------2001
Lionheart--------------------2004
The Inner Sanctum-------2007
Into The Labyrinth---------2009
New Album in March -----2011
These are Saxon's 7 best albums in my opinion and we'll wait and see if the new album is good quality song writting....
Saxon is a great band that unfortunately never really hit it big here in the states
it's a shame that they dont come around very often they've always been one of my favorites
Edited at: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:08:19 PM
[the highway terror] Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:51:15 PM
Saxon is a great band that unfortunately never really hit it big here in the states
it's a shame that they dont come around very often they've always been one of my favorites
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 17, 2010 5:04:09 PM
Very cool Jimmy. Heavy Metal Thunder is a very classic quality Saxon track. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, December 10, 2010 5:44:46 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's some Saxon for you JD, I'm sure you've seen it before though
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon to release thier 19th studio album in March 2011 !!!!!! This is great news for Saxon fans after getting out hearts ripped out today,at least its something to look forwards to.
[jimmyjames] Friday, December 10, 2010 5:44:46 PM
Here's some Saxon for you JD, I'm sure you've seen it before though
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon to release thier 19th studio album in March 2011 !!!!!! This is great news for Saxon fans after getting out hearts ripped out today,at least its something to look forwards to.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:15:23 PM
Saxon to release thier 19th studio album in March 2011 !!!!!! This is great news for Saxon fans after getting out hearts ripped out today,at least its something to look forwards to.
[Head banger] Friday, October 29, 2010 8:21:32 AM
I aint a neo anything. I am original! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:20:00 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
You, sir, are a "neo-maxi-zoom-dweebie!" BWWAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!!
Head banger wrote:
like totaly dude...
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 5:46:31 AM
Hey Zomby nice to see you here my friend. No,I don't think I saw that one,was it an old 80's video clip or nowadays? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by zomby from Friday, October 29, 2010 5:33:21 AM)
zomby wrote:
bloody brilliant cant you find the one where guitarist smashes his guittar jd
[Zomby] Friday, October 29, 2010 5:33:21 AM
bloody brilliant cant you find the one where guitarist smashes his guittar jd
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 5:26:14 AM
Opening track from the Chronicles Wacken DVD "Motorcycle Man",professionally shot video with 5.1 surround this DVD fuckin kicks ass!!! Iron Maiden can't touch this shit not even close!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, October 29, 2010 4:49:54 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Thoughts? Of course. Its pretty quite simple Guido,lets face it...Saxon's quality of music in the 1980's was nowhere near the "kick ass factor" that Judas Priest had,and Iron Maiden "had"....with albums like Unleashed In The East,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith(1979 - 1984) and Iron Maiden 1980 debut ,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave......and Motorhead's Bomber,Ace Of Spades,Iron Fist albums....
These albums in my opinion and many others were and are better than Saxon's first 5 studio albums from thier debut album "Saxon" in 1979,Wheels Of Steel 1980,Strong Arm Of The Law,Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory(1983.)
Sure these Saxon albums are cool yes,but they are not as "good" as the other band's albums,they are just not and then you had Saxon's image,it spanked of "cheese" and they looked silly.They just couldn't top Priest,Maiden and Motorhead. That is "why" Guido but the dagger for Saxon was in 1984 with thier 6th studio album "Crusader" ...sure the song 'Crusader" is total classic Saxon and is one hell of a kick ass song and I mean that,but the rest of the entire album "sucked balls" and they went "glam" with the rest of the album's sound and the band's image,it just sucked.
Then they did Innosence Is No Excuse in 1985 and that album full blown "sucked",it is utterly terrible.Then in 1986 they did the shitty "Rock The Nations" album with the same glam crap,then again in 1988 with "Destiny". So from 1984 to 1989 they killed themselves out of the scene they were really never able to uphold popularity in,in the first place and rightfully so with those shitty albums.
Even if they didn't go "glam" and kept putting out albums like Wheels Of Steel with old guitarist Grahm Oliver they still wouldn't of been in the same quality elite group of Judas Priest,Iron Maiden and Motorhead obviously.
Although in 1990 and 1992 with Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free albums they were only half good and still didn't harness a "kick ass factor". It wasn't untill 1995 that Saxon started "kicking some ass" and they released Dogs Of War with 10 tracks,7 of them kick ass,3 were glammy left-overs but they were headed in the right direction. Then in 1997 the Unleash The Beast album totally kicked ass man,again with Metalhead album in 99' then Killing Ground,Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum and Into The Labyrinth(2009)....
I belive if Saxon would of been putting these albums out in the early 80's with the band's now-a-days image of black cloths and leather jackets ect....I think they would of "took off" a little bit more Guido...no not as much and not as popular as Judas Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but yeah I really think that they would of taken flight a little more with the metal fans of the 1980's back then.
Imagine if Lionheart was released in 1983 with the band's current image,next to albums like Piece of Mind,Sceaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Iron Fist...ect...it would of made a much bigger impression with metal fans....again they still wouldn't be as "popular" as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but it would of been much more exposure for them back then. I was being a smart ass when I said Priest should take lessons from Saxon,but I still belive that because of how Saxon puts out an album every 2 years man!! lol!
Not to mention,yes Judas Priest is better than Saxon obviously and yes they are my favorite band but Saxon has been so,so much more "consistant" with "quality" releases of studio albums these last 15 years,they actually wipe up the floor with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden with "quality" studio albums these last 15 years except for Angel Of Retibution which is just as good as Saxon's last 7 studio albums,better in some cases.
Its a shame that Saxon are really not heard of these days,they deserve so much more yet they NEVER complain about any of this,they just love what they are doing and keep British Heavy Metal alive with thier brand of hard rock and heavy metal. Anybody who thinks they are not worthy,I'd challenge them to watch and listen to the Wacken concert 2001 in Germany that they headlined with about 30 or 40 thousand heavy metal fans ,thats in the Saxon Chronicles DVD,check it out Guido.
(Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 29, 2010 4:49:54 AM
Thoughts? Of course. Its pretty quite simple Guido,lets face it...Saxon's quality of music in the 1980's was nowhere near the "kick ass factor" that Judas Priest had,and Iron Maiden "had"....with albums like Unleashed In The East,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith(1979 - 1984) and Iron Maiden 1980 debut ,Killers,The Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind and Powerslave......and Motorhead's Bomber,Ace Of Spades,Iron Fist albums....
These albums in my opinion and many others were and are better than Saxon's first 5 studio albums from thier debut album "Saxon" in 1979,Wheels Of Steel 1980,Strong Arm Of The Law,Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory(1983.)
Sure these Saxon albums are cool yes,but they are not as "good" as the other band's albums,they are just not and then you had Saxon's image,it spanked of "cheese" and they looked silly.They just couldn't top Priest,Maiden and Motorhead. That is "why" Guido but the dagger for Saxon was in 1984 with thier 6th studio album "Crusader" ...sure the song 'Crusader" is total classic Saxon and is one hell of a kick ass song and I mean that,but the rest of the entire album "sucked balls" and they went "glam" with the rest of the album's sound and the band's image,it just sucked.
Then they did Innosence Is No Excuse in 1985 and that album full blown "sucked",it is utterly terrible.Then in 1986 they did the shitty "Rock The Nations" album with the same glam crap,then again in 1988 with "Destiny". So from 1984 to 1989 they killed themselves out of the scene they were really never able to uphold popularity in,in the first place and rightfully so with those shitty albums.
Even if they didn't go "glam" and kept putting out albums like Wheels Of Steel with old guitarist Grahm Oliver they still wouldn't of been in the same quality elite group of Judas Priest,Iron Maiden and Motorhead obviously.
Although in 1990 and 1992 with Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free albums they were only half good and still didn't harness a "kick ass factor". It wasn't untill 1995 that Saxon started "kicking some ass" and they released Dogs Of War with 10 tracks,7 of them kick ass,3 were glammy left-overs but they were headed in the right direction. Then in 1997 the Unleash The Beast album totally kicked ass man,again with Metalhead album in 99' then Killing Ground,Lionheart,The Inner Sanctum and Into The Labyrinth(2009)....
I belive if Saxon would of been putting these albums out in the early 80's with the band's now-a-days image of black cloths and leather jackets ect....I think they would of "took off" a little bit more Guido...no not as much and not as popular as Judas Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but yeah I really think that they would of taken flight a little more with the metal fans of the 1980's back then.
Imagine if Lionheart was released in 1983 with the band's current image,next to albums like Piece of Mind,Sceaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Iron Fist...ect...it would of made a much bigger impression with metal fans....again they still wouldn't be as "popular" as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead but it would of been much more exposure for them back then. I was being a smart ass when I said Priest should take lessons from Saxon,but I still belive that because of how Saxon puts out an album every 2 years man!! lol!
Not to mention,yes Judas Priest is better than Saxon obviously and yes they are my favorite band but Saxon has been so,so much more "consistant" with "quality" releases of studio albums these last 15 years,they actually wipe up the floor with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden with "quality" studio albums these last 15 years except for Angel Of Retibution which is just as good as Saxon's last 7 studio albums,better in some cases.
Its a shame that Saxon are really not heard of these days,they deserve so much more yet they NEVER complain about any of this,they just love what they are doing and keep British Heavy Metal alive with thier brand of hard rock and heavy metal. Anybody who thinks they are not worthy,I'd challenge them to watch and listen to the Wacken concert 2001 in Germany that they headlined with about 30 or 40 thousand heavy metal fans ,thats in the Saxon Chronicles DVD,check it out Guido.
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[Becks] Friday, October 29, 2010 12:05:00 AM
I agree totally Spa. Considering Priest were hitting their stride before I was born, I am forever grateful that they are still around producing heavy metal. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:28:38 PM)
spapad wrote:
Rob has got to rest at some time too, or should. So six months beyond the end of the Halford tour they might get in the studio. If you think about it, most bands when they reach "maturity" don't put out as many albums as they used to, IF they do at all! We all should be happy that JP is still around and delivering the goods. I do hope for a more traditional album next time and I'm sure they will give us a beauty. For the Faithful!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:20:00 PM
You, sir, are a "neo-maxi-zoom-dweebie!" BWWAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:09:13 PM)
Head banger wrote:
like totaly dude...
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:09:13 PM
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[spapad] Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:28:38 PM
Rob has got to rest at some time too, or should. So six months beyond the end of the Halford tour they might get in the studio. If you think about it, most bands when they reach "maturity" don't put out as many albums as they used to, IF they do at all! We all should be happy that JP is still around and delivering the goods. I do hope for a more traditional album next time and I'm sure they will give us a beauty. For the Faithful! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:27:12 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:27:12 PM
I don't know why HB, but the use of the word "fail" like that makes me laugh. Are you trying to talk like the trendy kids of today, HB?
J.D., I think Judas Priest did take some lessons from Saxon in regards to releasing albums every two years or so, at least in the 80s... and then they released the disaster (for some, and probably for them) that was Turbo, which took two years to make after the release of DOTF. But then again, they got back with Painkiller, which also took two years to make after the release of RID. One size does not fit all, IMO, especially if it becomes incompatible with the work ethic of a band. How is JP's work ethic now? Well...you be the judge. They're either writing new material right now, or still relaxing, or waiting for Rob to come back from his tour with his solo band so that they can begin writing, or...something else. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:28:31 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:37:07 PM
well, anything that gets us a new disc. I wish I liked nost, but still thats priest albums in 20 years. the solo stuff by Rob, Glen, other bands that Scott worked with are not priest. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
At the risk of upsetting your Beiber worship (heh), I would also prefer that they not take lessons from him either. While I don't have much of a comment on the Ripper-era albums, some of us really appreciate Nostra and hardly consider it a "useless" recording. Throw the Halford / solo albums in there and the ratio years = production goes even higher.
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM
At the risk of upsetting your Beiber worship (heh), I would also prefer that they not take lessons from him either. While I don't have much of a comment on the Ripper-era albums, some of us really appreciate Nostra and hardly consider it a "useless" recording. Throw the Halford / solo albums in there and the ratio years = production goes even higher. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM)
Head banger wrote:
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[Head banger] Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:45:48 PM
they could take lessons from Justine Beiber if it meant we would get a new album. 4 in 2 decades, with one of these completly useless, 2 with a "backup" singer.... FAIL!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:54:29 PM
I'd actually argue AGAINST Priest "taking lessons from Saxon." While I personally like Saxon and even admire the speed in which they produce new material, it cannot be denied that they do not hold a candle to the mighty Priest in terms of overall popularity worldwide. That goes for now and before. Sure, the same argument could and has been made with Priest vs. Maiden but Saxon isn't even in the running. Hell, Motorhead even swamps them. Why?
I've often asked myself the same question about Priest. Sadly, I too am on the "blame marketing" bandwagon. Over the years, I do think that the "label" has really made some really poor judgement calls in the marketing of Priest. What about Saxon? While I, along with many, see Priest shirts in airports and cities around the globe (albeit sporadically) , I rarely if EVER see a Saxon shirt. Mention them and very few even recognize the name. That even goes for classic metal fans.
While this particular aspect has always pissed me off about the handling decisions regarding Priest, it is more a "curious puzzling" about Saxon as to why they never really "took off." Thoughts? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
Edited at: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:58:50 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:37:29 PM
Saxon is headed into the studios next month to begin recording a new studio album!!!!! It probably should be out summer 2011 !!!!!!!! Thats only 2 years and 4 months apart from thier last studio album "Into The Labyrinth" in Feb. 2009,these guys fuckin kick ass man,they don't fuck around they get a new album out every 2 fuckin years,Biff even said that they do this because he wants to get as much metal out there to the fans that they can and he said he isn't getting any younger! lol!
Judas Priest should take some classes from Saxon.....they may learn a thing or 2 hahaha!!
[hellrider 31038] Friday, October 15, 2010 4:19:53 PM
I THINK YOU BETTER DISPOSE THAT BAD GREEN YOU GOT MAN.THE MOST INTENSE JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL IS COMING MAN.YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME PREPARING YOURSELF BEFORE IT WAMOS (BLAST)YOU IN THE FACE
I wasn't there and I wasn't discussing him. I was merely trying to compliment you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:22:10 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Excuse me Buderd but have you checked the Iron Maiden thread lately?? He has no problem speaking his mind there. lmao
Here's some nice guitar work by Saxon:
Budred wrote:
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
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Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:22:10 PM
Excuse me Buderd but have you checked the Iron Maiden thread lately?? He has no problem speaking his mind there. lmao
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[metallo] Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:04:08 PM
Great band. They was my second heavy metal concert in 1982 (the first was Motorhead in 1981), It was in Rome and we were 12.000 fans. They are, in my opinion really one of the best band of ever. Some very good albums, some less as for all the bands, but they was together with Priest and Maiden the gotha of NWOBHM and still they are.
The eagle has landed,... but taken off again and again for a never ending flight
[Budred] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:23:15 PM
Open, closed, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is I notice you'll say you don't like something or it's
not for you before you say it sucks. That shows consideration to others and that's a cool trait.
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
(Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM)
Budred wrote:
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:04:19 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:11 PM
Well,I don't think I'm that "open minded" as you may think,I'm just admiting that there is not right or wrong answer when it comes to music,its just fun to bash the shit ya don't like lol!!
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:26:36 PM
[Budred] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM
J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
(Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
Edited at: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:21:35 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:18:27 AM
lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
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[pedro68] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM
Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol .
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, September 13, 2010 1:13:12 PM
Yeah,they killed themselves by thier 6th studio album is what happened. The band had an ok sound and song writting from albums 1979 'Saxon" till 1983 "Power & The Glory" but thier image spanked of poor design it was terrible,however they were and still are both a heavy metal and a rock band,so beings they had "rock" mixed with traditional heavy metal thier image didn't need to be 100% heavy metal but what they were wearing at that time spanked of ugly and it was "cheesey".
But the music on the first 5 albums were good,then they put out 1984's "Crusader" album,the song "Crusader" is a classic british heavy metal song and its a jewel but the album is god awful,the Crusader song is the only worthy track on the album,and along with it came the "hair glam" image and then they did 3 more albums like this, 1985 "Innocense Is No Excuse",then 1986 "Rock The Nations" then 1988 "Destiny",so from 1984 to 1989 they were a washed up pretty boy glam band that was very "weak.
Biff said they were burned out and were cashing in on the American market at that time wich now he fully regrets doing. I remember Saxon through this back then and they sucked,sure thier first 5 studio albums were cool but the next 4 albums just killed them,not that they were as popular as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead in the first place cause they weren't,but it really killed the band. It wasn't till 1990 "Solid Ball Of Rock" and 1992 "Forever Free" albums that kick started Saxon's career again but those 2 albums only were half good,both of them had half an albums worth of lame hair band era songs on them,but it was a start. Then they put out Dogs Of War 1995 and that album has 8 out of 10 songs that are great british heavy metal/rock.
I wasn't actually around at the time so I can't be sure of this, but in the late 80s when contemporaries like Maiden and Def Lep were consolidating their fanbases, Saxon released a couple of truly terrible albums, and kind of dropped off the radar in the UK. They were actually pretty popular before that. They did tour the States because I've read an old review of them- I think it was '83, L.A, Metallica were the support.. neither band got reviewed well however. I don't know how the American public received them- J.D. probably knows.
One place they do seem to be very popular is Germany- They quite often headline festivals there.
pedro68 wrote:
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
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[K2M] Monday, September 13, 2010 11:14:31 AM
SAXON, Crusader, Armored Saint was the opener. Crusader 1984 [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by pedro68 from Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
[kiamat] Monday, September 13, 2010 6:30:16 AM
I wasn't actually around at the time so I can't be sure of this, but in the late 80s when contemporaries like Maiden and Def Lep were consolidating their fanbases, Saxon released a couple of truly terrible albums, and kind of dropped off the radar in the UK. They were actually pretty popular before that. They did tour the States because I've read an old review of them- I think it was '83, L.A, Metallica were the support.. neither band got reviewed well however. I don't know how the American public received them- J.D. probably knows.
One place they do seem to be very popular is Germany- They quite often headline festivals there.
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
[pedro68] Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM
Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
I
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:20:13 PM
I'm not "Painkiller" pedro68 (lol). And yes,on the 1988 Destiny album I forgot,they covered a Christopher Cross track "Ride Like The Wind" and its utterly terrible and "embarrassing". Even Biff regrets doing it,and the Destiny album too haha!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by pedro68 from Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:27:40 AM)
pedro68 wrote:
Thanks Painkiller I didnt know they coverd that song thats interesting.I seem to recall maybe they did a song called Ride like the wind by Christopher Cross.
Not sure if it made its way on to a album,but i know they played it live and it rocked, cheers.
[pedro68] Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:27:40 AM
Thanks Painkiller I didnt know they coverd that song thats interesting.I seem to recall maybe they did a song called Ride like the wind by Christopher Cross.
Not sure if it made its way on to a album,but i know they played it live and it rocked, cheers.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:06:27 PM
LOL jimmy!!! Yeah the song isn't anything to write home about to begin with ya know,but yeah Saxon did a cover song of it "Set Me Free" in 1984 from the crappy "Crusader" album,so I burned it onto a disc and got rid of the CD because that was the only other worthy track on the album besides the song "Crusader" and then years later when I met my girlfriend she saw that Saxon covered it,so she busts out a copy of the same track on Vince Neil's solo album and it totally killed it for me,not that I played that song very much anyway but it wasn't bad and then boom,she laughed her ass off and I've not listened to it since haha!! Fuckin squeaky Vince jimmy I'll tell ya lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:26:08 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Squeaky Vince strikes again.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!!
pedro68 wrote:
Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers
