| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 10:33:56 PM | |
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Well,I am a Cowboy fan too,I've liked them since Aikman & co. were "1 -15" 2 years before they won the Super Bowl. But lets face it,Minnesota were just a better team last year and Romo kept making poor throws out there.If your up against a better team you know that you can't make ANY mistakes at all,if you do you lose and thats what happened to Dallas last year.I'm not sure what to think about them right now,but I guess we'll see after 8 games half way through the season.
I didn't realize how much Sidney Rice means to Favre,man without that one guy Favre seems lost.The problem is that they still had Harvin out there and he and Favre were out of rhythm,thats odd. 0 -1 isn't time to panic but if they lose to Miami the week after sunday then its time to panic. Same with Dallas,if they lose to Washington Sunday no need to panic but they have got to win the next game.Nobnody wants to start at 0-2 because that 3rd game will either start to dig you out of a hole or seal your season.
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I'm not being too harsh. I'll admit he's worthy of coming back one more time,
I just hate him. I like the Cowboys so I didn't like him in Green Bay either. No disrespect
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| [Budred] Friday, September 10, 2010 7:48:04 PM | |
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I'm not being too harsh. I'll admit he's worthy of coming back one more time,
I just hate him. I like the Cowboys so I didn't like him in Green Bay either. No disrespect
to the man, I just hate him. After last years playoff game and some of the cooments he made
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| [Jeanine] Friday, September 10, 2010 7:46:05 PM | |
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Of course I am going to agree with you J.D. I love Brett Favre. So much so, I take crap from everyone at work (see I live in Wisconsin). I don't blame the loss entirely on him but him not showing up to camp really showed yesterday. Last year, it wasn't an issue but this year it affected the team. The guys just seemed out of sinc. I do understand he has the ankle issue but.... Hopefully they will come together soon and things will work out. I will be cheering for them.
Budred: I also have Brett's rookie card. I would hang on to that if i were you.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, September 10, 2010 2:53:09 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | LOL! Oh,I think your being to harsh on Favre Budred,I "was" even sick and tired of the media's "drama" with the "offseason" Favre bullshit,but it wasn't Favre's fault at all. Look who the vikings have for back up QB: "Tavaris Jackson". You think "Tavaris Jackson" could of beat the Saints last night? HAHAHA! Fuck of course not!
The smartest thing the Vikings have done is getting Brett Favre for one last season.Favre said before the season started that they may not beat the Saints in the season opener and if they don't they all go down swinging together,yet when they lose the media blames Favre and it looks like he is swinging all by himself . He even said that there are no guarantees that the Vikings will make it to the NFC Championship game,every season is different but since they were so close last season it would of been stupid of Favre to retire this year,at least he is giving it one more shot. Like him or hate him,Favre is good,he is overrated yes and he is not the best QB no,but this guy is very good and much much better than Tavaris Jackson.
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him. Honestly, I don't see him holding up very long. He's still struggling from last year, he'll
never catch up this year. I have a rookie Favre card, anyone want to buy it?(LOL) Best offer gets it.
 Advice to Brett!!! Give up now. Blame the ankle, you can still go out with dignity that way. People will buy it.(LOL)
| | | Budred wrote: | | I think Dallas and Minnesota play this year. I hope Favre lasts that long at least.
After his little celebration last year I would love to watch the Cowboys snap his neck,
(or at least his ankle). I saw the pictures of him after the Saints game last year.
I couldn't help but smile and wish evil things on him. I hope Dallas leaves bruises like
that on his whole body.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 2:53:09 PM | |
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LOL! Oh,I think your being to harsh on Favre Budred,I "was" even sick and tired of the media's "drama" with the "offseason" Favre bullshit,but it wasn't Favre's fault at all. Look who the vikings have for back up QB: "Tavaris Jackson". You think "Tavaris Jackson" could of beat the Saints last night? HAHAHA! Fuck of course not!
The smartest thing the Vikings have done is getting Brett Favre for one last season.Favre said before the season started that they may not beat the Saints in the season opener and if they don't they all go down swinging together,yet when they lose the media blames Favre and it looks like he is swinging all by himself . He even said that there are no guarantees that the Vikings will make it to the NFC Championship game,every season is different but since they were so close last season it would of been stupid of Favre to retire this year,at least he is giving it one more shot. Like him or hate him,Favre is good,he is overrated yes and he is not the best QB no,but this guy is very good and much much better than Tavaris Jackson.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:18:56 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | O.K., I don't want Brett Favre to get his neck snapped but I really do hope they get some shots at
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never catch up this year. I have a rookie Favre card, anyone want to buy it?(LOL) Best offer gets it.
Advice to Brett!!! Give up now. Blame the ankle, you can still go out with dignity that way. People will buy it.(LOL)
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After his little celebration last year I would love to watch the Cowboys snap his neck,
(or at least his ankle). I saw the pictures of him after the Saints game last year.
I couldn't help but smile and wish evil things on him. I hope Dallas leaves bruises like
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| [acolyte55] Friday, September 10, 2010 12:42:01 PM | |
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| [Budred] Friday, September 10, 2010 8:18:56 AM | |
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O.K., I don't want Brett Favre to get his neck snapped but I really do hope they get some shots at
him. Honestly, I don't see him holding up very long. He's still struggling from last year, he'll
never catch up this year. I have a rookie Favre card, anyone want to buy it?(LOL) Best offer gets it.
Advice to Brett!!! Give up now. Blame the ankle, you can still go out with dignity that way. People will buy it.(LOL)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, September 10, 2010 6:34:44 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | I think Dallas and Minnesota play this year. I hope Favre lasts that long at least.
After his little celebration last year I would love to watch the Cowboys snap his neck,
(or at least his ankle). I saw the pictures of him after the Saints game last year.
I couldn't help but smile and wish evil things on him. I hope Dallas leaves bruises like
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I think Dallas and Minnesota play this year. I hope Favre lasts that long at least.
After his little celebration last year I would love to watch the Cowboys snap his neck,
(or at least his ankle). I saw the pictures of him after the Saints game last year.
I couldn't help but smile and wish evil things on him. I hope Dallas leaves bruises like
that on his whole body.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by acolyte55 from Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:30:32 PM)| | | acolyte55 wrote: | | | please let brett favre stand down and be done! a future hall of famer but im done with the drama! retire/un-retire enough! |
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| [acolyte55] Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:30:32 PM | |
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| please let brett favre stand down and be done! a future hall of famer but im done with the drama! retire/un-retire enough! |
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| [Jeanine] Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:17:33 PM | |
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| Though I love Brett, it was quite apparent tonight that he should have tried to attend at least pre-season games let alone training camp. I love him, I hope they have a great season. Tonight was close but mistake were quite obvious on both sides. |
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| [acolyte55] Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:35:38 PM | |
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| drew bree is on the cover of SI nfl preview, the kiss of death ?????????? and madden nfl ,will the curse strike again??????!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:10:20 AM | |
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| NFL begins today: Vikings at Saints,even with the return of Favre I think the Saints are too good to lose at home,so I'm betting on the Saints to win this game.Vikings will have to go 0-1 and then build all season long to try and end up with a better record than New Orleans for hopes of home field advantage.But going 0-1 isn't going to be easy,they would have to win the next 15 games to try and beat out the Saints for home field advantage. I'm not sure if the Vikings can make it to the NFC Championship game from 0-1 but we'll see. |
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Being from Minnesota... Vikes can't afford to go on with Jackson, no one here can stand him. (And Childress as coach is a big No-No also...) All of us here are still waiting for the typical Favre to actually come out and say he's done, and not his agent... Other than the Vikes, they weren't the Top NFC team this year, apparenlty it's the Cowboys (!?!?!?!?!) which I cannot see happening.. And other sources say the Pack will win the NFC, we'll just have to see... Drew Brees "Madden Curse" to happen this year? Who knows... Remember, Favre wants vengeance on Brees . . . But will it even happen? (MN @ NO - 1st Reg. Season game) [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:10:21 PM)
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| Finally,as of today August 3rd Brett Favre has just retired from the NFL and will not return for a 20th season. Finally the stupid drama queen bullshit is over and we no longer have to hear about "the Favre watch". Fucking irritating. Put a fork in the Minnesota Vikings because they are done,they will not even make it to the playoffs this year with Tavaris Jackson at QB. Thats weak. The Saints are going to toally destroy the NFC without the Vikings in thier path now. Edited at: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12:11 PM |
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Have you taken a good look at the Bears roster for this year?? And they have an all-star cast of former NFL head coaches to prepare them. I'm not saying they're gonna win it all, but don't count them out either... ; )
Good riddance Favre, one of the best!!
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| Finally,as of today August 3rd Brett Favre has just retired from the NFL and will not return for a 20th season. Finally the stupid drama queen bullshit is over and we no longer have to hear about "the Favre watch". Fucking irritating. Put a fork in the Minnesota Vikings because they are done,they will not even make it to the playoffs this year with Tavaris Jackson at QB. Thats weak. The Saints are going to toally destroy the NFC without the Vikings in thier path now. Edited at: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:12:11 PM |
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Finally,as of today August 3rd Brett Favre has just retired from the NFL and will not return for a 20th season. Finally the stupid drama queen bullshit is over and we no longer have to hear about "the Favre watch". Fucking irritating. Put a fork in the Minnesota Vikings because they are done,they will not even make it to the playoffs this year with Tavaris Jackson at QB. Thats weak. The Saints are going to toally destroy the NFC without the Vikings in thier path now.
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| [iamnostradamus88] Monday, March 15, 2010 1:42:38 PM | |
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| LaDanian Tomlinson went to the JETS!!!!! Being a Jets fan i am stoked. I really believe that his decline came from being a little unhappy with his place and I really see a solid 1000+ yard season from LT. |
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| [ron h] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:23:52 AM | |
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Good morning JJ!! I'm heading out the door to work now and unfortunately I miss the conversations with you and J.D.!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:02:23 AM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Good morning Ron by the way.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Ok guys, bringing the football talk to the NFL thread...lol
I think one of the differences as far as contact goes between Rugby and the NFL is that each offensive play in the NFL starts from a set position...that means the defense has more time to 'measure' an offensive ball handler up before contact is made...sometimes it's intantanious (contact), but more often than not the defender has the chance at a running start. 'Timing' is an important skill when throwing the ball and the receiver is focused on catching the ball and has little to no time to get into a position to protect themselves against a hit, so the hits are truly more dramatic and painful (even with protective gear). And there's a psycological impact to that as well that can disrupt a game plan. Ever hear a player being accused of having 'alligator arms'?
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Good morning Ron by the way.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53:35 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Ok guys, bringing the football talk to the NFL thread...lol
I think one of the differences as far as contact goes between Rugby and the NFL is that each offensive play in the NFL starts from a set position...that means the defense has more time to 'measure' an offensive ball handler up before contact is made...sometimes it's intantanious (contact), but more often than not the defender has the chance at a running start. 'Timing' is an important skill when throwing the ball and the receiver is focused on catching the ball and has little to no time to get into a position to protect themselves against a hit, so the hits are truly more dramatic and painful (even with protective gear). And there's a psycological impact to that as well that can disrupt a game plan. Ever hear a player being accused of having 'alligator arms'?
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Often hitting guys in NFL is like shooting fish in a barrel, The defensive player is charging forward to make the hit while the attacking player is practically standing still or moving sideways. In rugby league you have the offensive and defensive lines moving towards each other at pace making for some mighty collisions and lots of injuries, it's AWESOME!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53:35 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Ok guys, bringing the football talk to the NFL thread...lol
I think one of the differences as far as contact goes between Rugby and the NFL is that each offensive play in the NFL starts from a set position...that means the defense has more time to 'measure' an offensive ball handler up before contact is made...sometimes it's intantanious (contact), but more often than not the defender has the chance at a running start. 'Timing' is an important skill when throwing the ball and the receiver is focused on catching the ball and has little to no time to get into a position to protect themselves against a hit, so the hits are truly more dramatic and painful (even with protective gear). And there's a psycological impact to that as well that can disrupt a game plan. Ever hear a player being accused of having 'alligator arms'?
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Ok guys, bringing the football talk to the NFL thread...lol
I think one of the differences as far as contact goes between Rugby and the NFL is that each offensive play in the NFL starts from a set position...that means the defense has more time to 'measure' an offensive ball handler up before contact is made...sometimes it's intantanious (contact), but more often than not the defender has the chance at a running start. 'Timing' is an important skill when throwing the ball and the receiver is focused on catching the ball and has little to no time to get into a position to protect themselves against a hit, so the hits are truly more dramatic and painful (even with protective gear). And there's a psycological impact to that as well that can disrupt a game plan. Ever hear a player being accused of having 'alligator arms'?
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:18:00 PM | |
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I actually think Jim Kelly "SHOULD" be trown in with "elite" quarterbacks such as Montana,Bradshaw,Elway,Aikman,Brady because Jim took the Bills to 4 straight Super Bowls...He won 4 straight AFC Championships in a row man,I know that he and the Bills didn't win any of thier 4 Super Bowls but come on ya know,just getting there 4 times in a row is an incredible accomplishment that I believe will NEVER happen again EVER,that is very impressive and out of 4 Super Bowls they only got thier asses kicked twice because they should of won the first one had it not been for Scott Norwood's misses field goal at the end of the game and the last one they were in they were ahead of Dallas at half time but Thurman Thomas fumbled the ball 3 times in the second half resulting in 21 points for Dallas so if it were not for Thurman's fumbles I think Buffalo would of won that game.
John Elway deserves to be in this group too,he only won 2 Super Bowls back to back but he took Denver to 5 Super Bowls,the only quarterback to have played in 5 Super Bowls! But going back to Jim Kelly,to me again this is the ONLY time when I would claim a quarterback who never won a Super Bowl belongs in the elite club of Super Bowl winners because of how great Jim Kelly was. Jim Kelly was better than Peyton Manning by far. And if Peyton Manning wins another 2 Super Bowls before he is finished then he will be ranked in with the greats for sure but I really can't see him winning another Super Bowl,he's been to 2 of them ....its hard enough just getting to 2 Super Bowls let alone 3 or 4. The 6 best QBs of all time:
Joe Montana
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Freaky...I'm not saying he's not a great QB, he most definitely IS!!! But he's ALSO overrated, IMO...the truly GREAT QB's don't break in the big games, they RISE to the challenge, which he FAILED to do. Jim Kelly took his team to 4 straight SB's and lost all 4 and he was arguably one of if not the best at that time. Had he won all 4, he would live in infamy!!
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You guys must get all your info from the NFL channel..........
Peyton Manning has a record 4 MVP titles and a Super Bowl championship so he must be...... very overrated!
I'm sure if he left the Colts for some reason no other teams would be interested because he's such a choke artist!
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| [Deep Freeze] Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:45:35 AM | |
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Why, my friend how soon you forget!! This is how I show my love!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:50:08 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | AHHHH, yes I did!! As it's too late to edit, my mistake will live in...LOL
My point was, as I'm sure you know, that the big games are what define a QB and losses in such games can and will define how a QB will be remembered.
As for my elementary mistake? It's Valentines Day, where's the love?! LOL HAAHAA!!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Umm, Ron old friend of mine...infamy? I believe you may have misspoke!
infamy (n): something grossly criminal. An act of shocking brutality or evil.
Perhaps he would have lived in a state of regarded recognition or glory? Hitler was infamous. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | ron h wrote: | | Freaky...I'm not saying he's not a great QB, he most definitely IS!!! But he's ALSO overrated, IMO...the truly GREAT QB's don't break in the big games, they RISE to the challenge, which he FAILED to do. Jim Kelly took his team to 4 straight SB's and lost all 4 and he was arguably one of if not the best at that time. Had he won all 4, he would live in infamy!!
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You guys must get all your info from the NFL channel..........
Peyton Manning has a record 4 MVP titles and a Super Bowl championship so he must be...... very overrated!
I'm sure if he left the Colts for some reason no other teams would be interested because he's such a choke artist!
Jeez!
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AHHHH, yes I did!! As it's too late to edit, my mistake will live in...LOL
My point was, as I'm sure you know, that the big games are what define a QB and losses in such games can and will define how a QB will be remembered.
As for my elementary mistake? It's Valentines Day, where's the love?! LOL HAAHAA!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:21:51 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Umm, Ron old friend of mine...infamy? I believe you may have misspoke!
infamy (n): something grossly criminal. An act of shocking brutality or evil.
Perhaps he would have lived in a state of regarded recognition or glory? Hitler was infamous. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | ron h wrote: | | Freaky...I'm not saying he's not a great QB, he most definitely IS!!! But he's ALSO overrated, IMO...the truly GREAT QB's don't break in the big games, they RISE to the challenge, which he FAILED to do. Jim Kelly took his team to 4 straight SB's and lost all 4 and he was arguably one of if not the best at that time. Had he won all 4, he would live in infamy!!
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You guys must get all your info from the NFL channel..........
Peyton Manning has a record 4 MVP titles and a Super Bowl championship so he must be...... very overrated!
I'm sure if he left the Colts for some reason no other teams would be interested because he's such a choke artist!
Jeez!
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Umm, Ron old friend of mine...infamy? I believe you may have misspoke!
infamy (n): something grossly criminal. An act of shocking brutality or evil.
Perhaps he would have lived in a state of regarded recognition or glory? Hitler was infamous. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:11:35 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Freaky...I'm not saying he's not a great QB, he most definitely IS!!! But he's ALSO overrated, IMO...the truly GREAT QB's don't break in the big games, they RISE to the challenge, which he FAILED to do. Jim Kelly took his team to 4 straight SB's and lost all 4 and he was arguably one of if not the best at that time. Had he won all 4, he would live in infamy!!
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You guys must get all your info from the NFL channel..........
Peyton Manning has a record 4 MVP titles and a Super Bowl championship so he must be...... very overrated!
I'm sure if he left the Colts for some reason no other teams would be interested because he's such a choke artist!
Jeez!
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Freaky...I'm not saying he's not a great QB, he most definitely IS!!! But he's ALSO overrated, IMO...the truly GREAT QB's don't break in the big games, they RISE to the challenge, which he FAILED to do. Jim Kelly took his team to 4 straight SB's and lost all 4 and he was arguably one of if not the best at that time. Had he won all 4, he would live in infamy!!
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You guys must get all your info from the NFL channel..........
Peyton Manning has a record 4 MVP titles and a Super Bowl championship so he must be...... very overrated!
I'm sure if he left the Colts for some reason no other teams would be interested because he's such a choke artist!
Jeez!
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It's going to be a long 6 months till the 2010 season and I'm looking forward to see how the Saints handle that super bowl hangover. Every team they play will look at iti as their superbowl.......the Saints have a bullseye painted on their back now.......its gonna be fun! ROFL!!! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:16:51 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Hey the Jets are really not to far behind the Colts man.That game week 16 against the Jets yeah they didn't play that game because it was meaningless as they already had home field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs but the Jets next year may be stronger than they are now and if they somehow were to get home field the Colts probly wouldn't be able to beat them there. And as far as Manning goes...hes my favorite QB of today with Brady being my second fav. but the media ala "ESPN and a few other sources were trying to claim Peyton possibly being the best or at least one of the best QBs to ever play the game and I think its bullarky man!! lol!!
Yes he is above average and yes he is great but there is no way he is up there with Troy Aikman,Tom Brady let alone Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw. If Peyton wins another 2 super bowls before he retires I will say I'm wrong but for now I think its fair to say that Peyton Manning is overrated as to what "they" are saying about him. (Quoting Message by FreakyMetalHead from Monday, February 08, 2010 8:06:54 PM)
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| [iamnostradamus88] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:46:55 PM | |
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spot on J.D. Calling Peyton overrated doesn't necesarily mean we are really putting him down. He's accomplished alot man. Have a super bowl win in itself means he is an Elite QB and will always be remembered as one. The jets also are going to have Kris Jenkins and Leon Washington back. If they can keep the injuries at a low, who knows. And does anybody know the Ladanian Tomilson deal? Hes getting trade or hes a free agent or something? Either way, Thomas Jones ain't too happy with the Jets at least financially so hmmm.......i know thats probably ridiculous but ohh man LT on the JETS? HAHAHA i'm sucha dreamer. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:16:51 AM | |
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Hey the Jets are really not to far behind the Colts man.That game week 16 against the Jets yeah they didn't play that game because it was meaningless as they already had home field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs but the Jets next year may be stronger than they are now and if they somehow were to get home field the Colts probly wouldn't be able to beat them there. And as far as Manning goes...hes my favorite QB of today with Brady being my second fav. but the media ala "ESPN and a few other sources were trying to claim Peyton possibly being the best or at least one of the best QBs to ever play the game and I think its bullarky man!! lol!!
Yes he is above average and yes he is great but there is no way he is up there with Troy Aikman,Tom Brady let alone Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw. If Peyton wins another 2 super bowls before he retires I will say I'm wrong but for now I think its fair to say that Peyton Manning is overrated as to what "they" are saying about him. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by FreakyMetalHead from Monday, February 08, 2010 8:06:54 PM)
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Yes.... they will be there if Caldwell and the Colts put in their second string players again.......
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Yeah the Jets may be in the Super Bowl next year,anything is up for grabs in the entire AFC conference.
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| yea J.D i agree with you mostly. I believe strongly that peyton could very well win another super bowl before its all said and done. Still yes I agree hes a bit overrated. When hes great hes great though. God I hope Mark Sanchez and the Jets keep it up. I can't take it. I am proud of there playoff run, but god it took alot out of me lol. |
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| [FreakyMetalHead] Monday, February 08, 2010 8:06:54 PM | |
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Yes.... they will be there if Caldwell and the Colts put in their second string players again.......
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Monday, February 08, 2010 4:59:20 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Yeah the Jets may be in the Super Bowl next year,anything is up for grabs in the entire AFC conference.
| | | iamnostradamus88 wrote: | | | yea J.D i agree with you mostly. I believe strongly that peyton could very well win another super bowl before its all said and done. Still yes I agree hes a bit overrated. When hes great hes great though. God I hope Mark Sanchez and the Jets keep it up. I can't take it. I am proud of there playoff run, but god it took alot out of me lol. |
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| [FreakyMetalHead] Monday, February 08, 2010 7:56:15 PM | |
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You guys must get all your info from the NFL channel..........
Peyton Manning has a record 4 MVP titles and a Super Bowl championship so he must be...... very overrated!
I'm sure if he left the Colts for some reason no other teams would be interested because he's such a choke artist!
Jeez!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, February 08, 2010 5:02:25 PM | |
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LOL! Yeah thats what I'm saying ron,Manning is very good and hes my favorite player today but he is overrated big time,hes not as good as everybody says he is at all. Now the best quarterback to ever play the game in my opinion is Joe Montana!!! And not just because he holds 4 Super Bowl rings,its everything rolled into one that he accomplished in his career,its amazing.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Monday, February 08, 2010 4:44:54 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Peyton Manning is a 4 time NFL MVP with only 1 SB win, hardly close to the best QB!!!
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | llol! Yeah Jets may have beaten the Saints!! I like Manning too but I have to cower down and finally admit that he really is overrated and he can't mesure up to the "hype" that the midia gives him ranting and raving about how Manning is one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL...I say no way is he even close to a "clutch" quarterback like Joe Montana or Tom Brady theres just no way. Peyton has fallen short of trying to match what is expected of him all because he is one of the best only during the regular season,playoffs he is no better than any qb that makes it to the playoffs .
Like Mark Sanchez the rookie for example,he is just as good if not better than Peyton Manning during his first playoff run while during the regular season Manning can be as good as Montana or Brady consistantly but you get him in the playoffs and he chokes under pressure.He only has a super bowl ring because the Colts lucked out by only having to play the Bears with Rex Grossman that year so really when we hear all the hype of "Peyton Manning" we can all say that he is not close to it. (Quoting Message by iamnostradamus88 from Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:45:00 PM)
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| I'm a Jets fan so seeing Peyton lose was important haha. I actually like Peyton but can't like him right now :-P. But hey seriously congrats to the Saints. They deserved it. I said early on in the season they were gonna be a top dog. Good for New Orleans too. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, February 08, 2010 4:59:20 PM | |
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Yeah the Jets may be in the Super Bowl next year,anything is up for grabs in the entire AFC conference.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by iamnostradamus88 from Monday, February 08, 2010 4:00:49 PM)| | | iamnostradamus88 wrote: | | | yea J.D i agree with you mostly. I believe strongly that peyton could very well win another super bowl before its all said and done. Still yes I agree hes a bit overrated. When hes great hes great though. God I hope Mark Sanchez and the Jets keep it up. I can't take it. I am proud of there playoff run, but god it took alot out of me lol. |
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| [iamnostradamus88] Monday, February 08, 2010 4:00:49 PM | |
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| yea J.D i agree with you mostly. I believe strongly that peyton could very well win another super bowl before its all said and done. Still yes I agree hes a bit overrated. When hes great hes great though. God I hope Mark Sanchez and the Jets keep it up. I can't take it. I am proud of there playoff run, but god it took alot out of me lol. |
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| [jimmyjames] Monday, February 08, 2010 4:46:35 AM | |
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| Morning Ron, how you been? |
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| [ron h] Monday, February 08, 2010 4:44:54 AM | |
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Peyton Manning is a 4 time NFL MVP with only 1 SB win, hardly close to the best QB!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:04:40 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | llol! Yeah Jets may have beaten the Saints!! I like Manning too but I have to cower down and finally admit that he really is overrated and he can't mesure up to the "hype" that the midia gives him ranting and raving about how Manning is one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL...I say no way is he even close to a "clutch" quarterback like Joe Montana or Tom Brady theres just no way. Peyton has fallen short of trying to match what is expected of him all because he is one of the best only during the regular season,playoffs he is no better than any qb that makes it to the playoffs .
Like Mark Sanchez the rookie for example,he is just as good if not better than Peyton Manning during his first playoff run while during the regular season Manning can be as good as Montana or Brady consistantly but you get him in the playoffs and he chokes under pressure.He only has a super bowl ring because the Colts lucked out by only having to play the Bears with Rex Grossman that year so really when we hear all the hype of "Peyton Manning" we can all say that he is not close to it. (Quoting Message by iamnostradamus88 from Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:45:00 PM)
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| I'm a Jets fan so seeing Peyton lose was important haha. I actually like Peyton but can't like him right now :-P. But hey seriously congrats to the Saints. They deserved it. I said early on in the season they were gonna be a top dog. Good for New Orleans too. |
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| [spapad] Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:09:27 PM | |
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| As a nonbiased person, I thought both teams brought it to the game only at different times. First half looked like Colts would easily win and then after half time the Saints reinvented themselves in 30 minutes and through the Colts off bigtime. After that the Colts just seem to loose the momentum and make mistake after mistake at the most inoportune time. Good game! |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:04:40 PM | |
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llol! Yeah Jets may have beaten the Saints!! I like Manning too but I have to cower down and finally admit that he really is overrated and he can't mesure up to the "hype" that the midia gives him ranting and raving about how Manning is one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL...I say no way is he even close to a "clutch" quarterback like Joe Montana or Tom Brady theres just no way. Peyton has fallen short of trying to match what is expected of him all because he is one of the best only during the regular season,playoffs he is no better than any qb that makes it to the playoffs .
Like Mark Sanchez the rookie for example,he is just as good if not better than Peyton Manning during his first playoff run while during the regular season Manning can be as good as Montana or Brady consistantly but you get him in the playoffs and he chokes under pressure.He only has a super bowl ring because the Colts lucked out by only having to play the Bears with Rex Grossman that year so really when we hear all the hype of "Peyton Manning" we can all say that he is not close to it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by iamnostradamus88 from Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:45:00 PM)
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| I'm a Jets fan so seeing Peyton lose was important haha. I actually like Peyton but can't like him right now :-P. But hey seriously congrats to the Saints. They deserved it. I said early on in the season they were gonna be a top dog. Good for New Orleans too. |
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| [iamnostradamus88] Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:45:00 PM | |
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| I'm a Jets fan so seeing Peyton lose was important haha. I actually like Peyton but can't like him right now :-P. But hey seriously congrats to the Saints. They deserved it. I said early on in the season they were gonna be a top dog. Good for New Orleans too. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:14:52 PM | |
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Well congrats to the New Orleans Saints for winning the Super Bowl fair and square,as much as I love watching Peyton Manning during the regular season this comes as no suprise at all as Peyton is a choke artist just like Brett Favre is even though they both have a super Bowl ring,they are lucky to have one.Now I think its definately official that Peyton Manning is the biggest "overrated" quarterback in the "history" of the National Football League. Yes he is good but he is not good enough to be compared to the greats like Joe Montana,Terry Bradshaw Troy Aikman and Tom Brady.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by FreakyMetalHead from Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:07:58 PM)
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| Hope the Colts beat the Saints and the ref's don't let the Saints defense take late cheap shots on Peyton Manning like they did Favre in the NFC championship..... I can't stand the Saints. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:11:38 AM | |
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Well the Cowboys are building right now as you know,I don't think that the score indicated the real Cowboys out there,34 - 3 was not thier best effort even against Minnesota,I'm not saying they would of won that game against the Vikings but they should of been closer then they were.I think Romo kinda choked a little bit,right now as in next season they need to fight harder during the regular season to win the NFC's best record for home field advantage throughout the playoffs of course.Thats what Romo needs this early in his career is to have the crowd to fire him up.On the road is very hard to win as it is let alone Tony Romo! lol!
But if Favre comes back for what would obviously be his last season then I dunno,the Vikings are very strong if they put it together as in learn how to win games by not turning the ball over.Dallas could give the Vikings and Saints a run for thier money next season.I would say that the Cowboys are the 3rd best team in the NFC next to the Vikings and Saints. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:47:24 PM)
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...Since 1976 for me...the first time they played the Steelers in the Superbowl. Every one was rooting for the Steelers so I went for the Cowboys.
Of course the Cowboys lost and I got ridiculed but I stuck with them. 34 years later and I still root for them. And yeah, Minnesota put it to them!
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| [Budred] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:47:24 PM | |
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...Since 1976 for me...the first time they played the Steelers in the Superbowl. Every one was rooting for the Steelers so I went for the Cowboys.
Of course the Cowboys lost and I got ridiculed but I stuck with them. 34 years later and I still root for them. And yeah, Minnesota put it to them! |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:19:48 PM | |
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LOL! Ohh your just butt-hurt because Favre beat the crud out of you Cowboys!! lol! I also am a Cowboys fan,I have been since 1990 when they were 1-15 before thier Super Bowl wins ect..
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:15:09 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | It's all good man. I actually agree with you. I'm a Cowboys fan. Someone I work with
who's favorite team is (Brett Favre) just went on and on about what the Vikings did to them.
Very arrogant. Therefore I was praying for Favre to get his neck snapped so I could look at
this dude and go HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! He didn't get his neck snapped but I got a kick out of
watching him get beat up as bad as he did. Loudmouth at work didn't have anything to say.
Farve made a few comments too that were a little disrespectful and then that last touchdown.
Definitely unnecessary. He got what he deserved.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Yeah Favre is a choke artist,but the Vikings never would of ended up in the NFC Championship game without him,and the Saints won that game by a field goal in overtime to beat them??? With the Vikings turning the ball over 5 fucking times? And it wasn't the defense that caused these turnovers,3 fumbles were all by the sloppy play of the Vikings and Favre's 2 ints were his fault,not New Orleans causing those 2 ints.
If the Vikings didn't turn the ball over once they would of beat the Saints by at least 21 points. The Colts may turn the ball over maybe twice in the Super Bowl but I gaurantee they will not lose it 5 times,no way.Peyton Manning will destroy the New Orleans Saints come Sunday.
| | | Budred wrote: | | The Super Bowl is going to be fantastic this year.  No freakin' Steelers.
No Cowboys either but I can deal with that.
Watching Favre get "BEATEN" up after last weeks comments was quite satisfying.
I was screaming like I just hit the lottery when he got hurt.
....Too bad it wasn't worse...
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| [Budred] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:15:09 PM | |
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It's all good man. I actually agree with you. I'm a Cowboys fan. Someone I work with
who's favorite team is (Brett Favre) just went on and on about what the Vikings did to them.
Very arrogant. Therefore I was praying for Favre to get his neck snapped so I could look at
this dude and go HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! He didn't get his neck snapped but I got a kick out of
watching him get beat up as bad as he did. Loudmouth at work didn't have anything to say.
Farve made a few comments too that were a little disrespectful and then that last touchdown.
Definitely unnecessary. He got what he deserved.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:50:33 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Yeah Favre is a choke artist,but the Vikings never would of ended up in the NFC Championship game without him,and the Saints won that game by a field goal in overtime to beat them??? With the Vikings turning the ball over 5 fucking times? And it wasn't the defense that caused these turnovers,3 fumbles were all by the sloppy play of the Vikings and Favre's 2 ints were his fault,not New Orleans causing those 2 ints.
If the Vikings didn't turn the ball over once they would of beat the Saints by at least 21 points. The Colts may turn the ball over maybe twice in the Super Bowl but I gaurantee they will not lose it 5 times,no way.Peyton Manning will destroy the New Orleans Saints come Sunday.
| | | Budred wrote: | | The Super Bowl is going to be fantastic this year. No freakin' Steelers.
No Cowboys either but I can deal with that.
Watching Favre get "BEATEN" up after last weeks comments was quite satisfying.
I was screaming like I just hit the lottery when he got hurt.
....Too bad it wasn't worse...
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:50:33 PM | |
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Yeah Favre is a choke artist,but the Vikings never would of ended up in the NFC Championship game without him,and the Saints won that game by a field goal in overtime to beat them??? With the Vikings turning the ball over 5 fucking times? And it wasn't the defense that caused these turnovers,3 fumbles were all by the sloppy play of the Vikings and Favre's 2 ints were his fault,not New Orleans causing those 2 ints.
If the Vikings didn't turn the ball over once they would of beat the Saints by at least 21 points. The Colts may turn the ball over maybe twice in the Super Bowl but I gaurantee they will not lose it 5 times,no way.Peyton Manning will destroy the New Orleans Saints come Sunday.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, February 01, 2010 12:50:57 PM)| | | Budred wrote: | | The Super Bowl is going to be fantastic this year. No freakin' Steelers.
No Cowboys either but I can deal with that.
Watching Favre get "BEATEN" up after last weeks comments was quite satisfying.
I was screaming like I just hit the lottery when he got hurt.
....Too bad it wasn't worse...
Like he said, it's what he came back for. HA,HA,HA,Ha,............... |
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| [Budred] Monday, February 01, 2010 12:50:57 PM | |
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The Super Bowl is going to be fantastic this year. No freakin' Steelers.
No Cowboys either but I can deal with that.
Watching Favre get "BEATEN" up after last weeks comments was quite satisfying.
I was screaming like I just hit the lottery when he got hurt.
....Too bad it wasn't worse...
Like he said, it's what he came back for. HA,HA,HA,Ha,............... |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:23:01 PM | |
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| Whos going to the Super Bowl? I want the Vikings and the Colts,but I think its going to be the Jets and the Saints.Or the Colts and the Saints,I don't think Minnesota can beat New Orleans,but I can wish. |
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Well first off I'm glad because Philadelphia and Green Bay are eliminated from the NFC,that leaves the Saints,Vikings,Cardinals and Cowboys and I don't mind who gets in now from the NFC.
But in the ACF,I want the Colts to go to the Super Bowl,if they choke then I want to see the Jets,I'll settle with the Ravens if the Colts or Jets don't make it but as long as San Diego doen't make
it then I'll be happy! lol!! I can't stand Philip Rivers,he is very good I know but I can't stand him...fuck the Chargers!!!!
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| [iamnostradamus88] Monday, January 11, 2010 2:59:30 PM | |
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| For christmas I recieved a Jets Team Gnome. I put it by my tv while I watch the games. So far the gnome is 3-0 so awesome. Being a longtime Jets fan I am extremely proud of what they've accomplished. Typical Jets year thus far. I bite my tongue though. That's all I will say. |
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| go cards in a tight defensive battle with the green bay packers ( said with a dripping sarcasm voice) they pull it out 51-45 wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cant be giving the saints that many trys!!!!! |
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