| [guidogodoy] Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:46:18 PM | |
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The bombshell at least resolves one issue. I do NOT want to hear "Sinner" played.
Give me five minutes and I can add 20+ songs to the list.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:28:36 PM | |
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 Well said Don! It's a long tour to spend on the bus with people that you don't get along with. Your emotions come through in how you play and in your performance. He wouldn't be our KK up there and he knows it. I'm very sad that he will miss that final bow and see the admiration in all his fans eyes. But he would only be the shell of the man that we know. Better to bow out now so that we can remember him as the incredible guitarist that he is. It will be difficult to look over at the left side of the stage and see and hear someone else, but I will be there to see Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott one last time as well.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by don8724 from Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:37:32 PM)| |  | don8724 wrote: | | I can understand why people are upset with KK retiring right before the farewell tour kicks off. Any true Priest fan will undoubtedly think it borders on sacrilege to have another guitar player playing KK’s licks on stage. This is a sentiment that I share as well. However I think the point that fans might miss is how demanding touring is. And this is going to be one LONG tour. KK will be 60 years old in a few months. He’s been on a tour bus most of his adult life. He just doesn’t want to get on the bus with these guys anymore. He’s had enough. While I would prefer that he does the farewell tour he just can’t bring himself to do it. I can’t blame the man for wanting to stop. He’s given us everything he could and now he’s done. Richie Faulkner DOES want to get on the bus so I’ll go and see Richie Faulkner play KK’s licks on stage. I’m not going to sit at home and pout and miss my last chance to Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott one last time. |
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| [don8724] Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:37:32 PM | |
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I can understand why people are upset with KK retiring right before the farewell tour kicks off. Any true Priest fan will undoubtedly think it borders on sacrilege to have another guitar player playing KK’s licks on stage. This is a sentiment that I share as well. However I think the point that fans might miss is how demanding touring is. And this is going to be one LONG tour. KK will be 60 years old in a few months. He’s been on a tour bus most of his adult life. He just doesn’t want to get on the bus with these guys anymore. He’s had enough. While I would prefer that he does the farewell tour he just can’t bring himself to do it. I can’t blame the man for wanting to stop. He’s given us everything he could and now he’s done. Richie Faulkner DOES want to get on the bus so I’ll go and see Richie Faulkner play KK’s licks on stage. I’m not going to sit at home and pout and miss my last chance to Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott one last time. |
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| [elandfill] Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:24:48 PM | |
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Since I don't have enough "respect points" (I've been a fan for 30 years, own all their cds and have seen them 6 times) to post this elsewhere, I'll do it here. If you guys can't get along at this stage of your career, the hell with all of you. There is no way now that I will attend the epitaph tour.
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| [icomearoundnow] Saturday, April 23, 2011 7:09:55 PM | |
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I can't believe the lack of outrage. What if it was Glenn? Now that's a question worth pondering. KK needs to get it together and go back, he does owe the fans, the ones who made him who he is. No one works the tremelo bar like KK, not even Glenn. This is ridiculous, no offense (like the fans should ever apologize to the rock stars..give me a break!)I'll stay home.
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| [wwol] Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:06:15 PM | |
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| It's a "FAREWELL TOUR". Our chance as fans to Thank Priest for the music we've listened to our whole lives. Selfishly, I want to KK there at the end of the show taking one final bow with the other Metal Gods............ Whether he plays or not............ I do hope he re-considers, straps on a guitar and becomes part of this historical event, I think he'll regret it if he doesn't. We ALL want an opportunity to wish KK a "FAREWELL", he's earned it.............KK if you're reading, be Frankie Lee, Priest isn't a house, it's a home. Me & all your fans will help you with your load. |
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| [spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 6:38:22 PM | |
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Well said Don. Like the lack of bitterness. I know we would all beg him as a group on our knees if we thought it would work, but it wont and we must respect his wishes and rememeber all he has given to us for so many years.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by don8724 from Friday, April 22, 2011 5:34:18 PM)| | | don8724 wrote: | | I was certainly shocked and saddened when I saw the news a couple of days ago. I never thought that KK would quit the Priest until they ALL called it a day. I’ve been waiting for the US tour dates to be announced and I see the reason for the delay now. They’ve been trying to talk him out of retirement for a few months now but he’s made up his mind. I think we need to respect his decision. The way I see it is all a performer owes me or any fan is the best performance they can give. If KK wasn’t in a position to give 100% then he did the right thing and stepped down. A half-assed effort would have been a rip-off. It’s unfair to compare Richie Faulkner to KK Downing but Richie can play guitar just fine and he WANTS to be there. It’s better to see Richie Faulkner giving 100% effort than KK going through the motions.
I want to thank Mr. Downing for all the years of great music and I certainly wish him well in retirement – the man has earned it. So while it will be strange to see Priest without KK Downing on guitar I will be going to the show when they come to Minneapolis.
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| [ScottW] Friday, April 22, 2011 6:26:34 PM | |
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| [don8724] Friday, April 22, 2011 5:34:18 PM | |
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I was certainly shocked and saddened when I saw the news a couple of days ago. I never thought that KK would quit the Priest until they ALL called it a day. I’ve been waiting for the US tour dates to be announced and I see the reason for the delay now. They’ve been trying to talk him out of retirement for a few months now but he’s made up his mind. I think we need to respect his decision. The way I see it is all a performer owes me or any fan is the best performance they can give. If KK wasn’t in a position to give 100% then he did the right thing and stepped down. A half-assed effort would have been a rip-off. It’s unfair to compare Richie Faulkner to KK Downing but Richie can play guitar just fine and he WANTS to be there. It’s better to see Richie Faulkner giving 100% effort than KK going through the motions.
I want to thank Mr. Downing for all the years of great music and I certainly wish him well in retirement – the man has earned it. So while it will be strange to see Priest without KK Downing on guitar I will be going to the show when they come to Minneapolis.
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| [icomearoundnow] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:59:52 PM | |
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| ....and it's not a health issue, of course that would be a different set of circumstances, BUT THAT ISN'T THE CASE HERE SO WHY EVEN BRING THAT INTO THIS???? That's like saying 'if my stuff didn't work I would understand my wife cheating, so even though it does, it's OK because if it didn't....." I just don't get people's dumb logic. And if he was sick, I think they should cancel the tour so there you go. |
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| [icomearoundnow] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:49:04 PM | |
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What total BS.....these guys grew up together, they survived Disco, New WAve, Punk, Glam, Thrash, withstood every trend and flew their unique Priest style; they were the first band ever to play music that heavy with a calibre of talent that would put them in the same company with any other group. Only the Scorpions could write metal music as good as Priest, and give metal the respect we the fans craved. I, for one, walked a little taller when Priest was able to break through the mainstream, it was like I won too. If the Scorpions can put their massive egos in check for them to do a final tour than bloody hell so can KK Downing and Priest. The fans don't deserve this, they deserve the original lineup, and as a discriminating listener I can tell miles of difference between KK, who has a very deep blues base in his shredding, to any other guitarist, don't care how good they are. GET IT TOGETHER GUYS AND WORK THIS OUT; I WON'T GO TO A PRIEST CONCERT WITHOUT KK DOWNING. PERIOD.
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| [ScottW] Friday, April 22, 2011 2:03:54 PM | |
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OK, I have to say my piece and then I’ll let this rest. There have been a few days to absorb this. It is my hope that KK will read all of these posts and somehow work out his differences and rejoin for one final tour.
KK, Thank you for 42 years of Judas Priest. You leave us with an amazing body of work in both quantity and quality. You have inspired many guitarists, myself included, all of those years. You were always my favorite part of Judas Priest. You had the right look and those flying v’s. That is the ultimate heavy metal guitar. I wanted to be just like KK Downing. Never quite made it that far but it was fun trying.
I have been waiting for a US tour date to be released. My oldest son is now at the age to go to concerts, and I wanted him to see the Priest. My wife and I are still planning on going. I still believe that musically, it will be a good show. I’m sure the band has picked an experienced guitarist and the music will not suffer. But KK is who I really wanted to see even more so than any other member of the band.
It appears that Judas Priest is not immune to the old “musical differences” problem. Musicians need to make music they are happy with first. Each and every band member needs to be happy with it. Selling records is secondary. Management, who f&#*ing likes management. They were probably trying to take too much. The band deserves at least half of what is brought in, not a bunch of f&#*ing CEO’s that couldn’t play an E5 power chord.
Not that any of us fans are really owed more of an explanation, but I know I have many more questions that I would like answered. In time, we may get to hear more of the story.
KK, I wish you well. Even if you don’t go on this tour, maybe someday the full Judas Priest line-up will make it to the northeast of the US. Maybe by then my youngest will be old enough to go too. |
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| [ralexander24] Friday, April 22, 2011 12:42:09 PM | |
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KK has done his time, i honestly believe he has not been interested for a couple years now, but all is good its not like Priest lost Halford again,
So smile and thank all of them for 30 years of awesome heavy metal Horns up for KK... \m/ \m/
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| [PhillipMousseau] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:49:59 AM | |
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all i want to do is cry truly a shame Even though he is still alive it seems as if the music world has lost a pioneer in the genre and im truly saddened
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| [thekissofjudas] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:22:57 AM | |
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KK leaving the band is like flagging the really epitaph of the band. Ok, this has happened for some serious reason, something woud not be right with him. A guitar leader like him woud not have retired just because he's tired of touring or quarreled with some other band's member. Any way, I just am going to the show if the visit my country and of course, long for his presence and his gleamming metal sound, it is impossible to avoid the frustration.... |
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| [Head banger] Friday, April 22, 2011 5:52:03 AM | |
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all true. shame this wasnt anounced before they started selling tix. that would have reduced some of the outcry
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rik_ from Friday, April 22, 2011 4:29:46 AM)| | | Rik_ wrote: | | KK has left the band, end of story. The fact he's done it on the eve of their final tour and that fans who've already bought tickets will be dissapointed means he's probably not going to change his mind. No point getting all bitter about it. Either go and see them or stay at home. I've supported the band myself since the 1970s and would have liked to see him play once more, but there you go...
Priest pioneered the twin guitar lead, true, but many bands have adopted the style since and are very good at it. Faulkner must be up to the task or they wouldn't have hired him. He's not some busker dragged in from the street, (mind you a lot of them are excellent musicians too !!!). If the tour had been cancelled there'd have been hell on from most fans, a lot would have been directed at KK I reckon too for not seeing it through. Continuing the tour is the best option for all concerned, and had KK Downing been injured or ill this is what most would have wanted and Faulkner would have been the man who saved the day, and his praises would have been sung, although the connoisseurs and musicians amongst you will say they can notice the difference in playing or simply say "but it's not KK". Personally for instance If I were to go and see Dio's band touring this year I would notice that it is Ripper Owens & Toby Jepson (ex Little Angels) on vocals before I'd notice craig Goldy was playing guitar & not Doug Aldridge, much as I like them both.
Nobody is indespensable, the world carries on.
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| [Head banger] Friday, April 22, 2011 5:50:31 AM | |
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if his hearts not in it, the show wont be the same. I just think they should have anounced it before the tix went on sale but...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by nightprowler42 from Friday, April 22, 2011 2:29:33 AM)| | | nightprowler42 wrote: | | | This is a total and complete shock......I have been a Priest fan for too many years to count.....The dual guitars performed by KK and Glenn will never be able to be replaced by another guitarist. I was super pissed when Rob left, and after a few years, I saw them on tour in New Orleans, LA (House of Blues) that performance, however great the music was, the replacement made me sick. This is supposed to be a "Farewell" Tour, WTF??????...You can't have a "Farewell" Tour without ALL the original memebrs. KK, whatever disagreements you are having with the management and or WHATEVER...........Put the fans first for this tour, then do what you want. I hate to see you leave and you can NEVER be replaced, but do not make us fans suffer. |
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| [Rik_] Friday, April 22, 2011 4:29:46 AM | |
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KK has left the band, end of story. The fact he's done it on the eve of their final tour and that fans who've already bought tickets will be dissapointed means he's probably not going to change his mind. No point getting all bitter about it. Either go and see them or stay at home. I've supported the band myself since the 1970s and would have liked to see him play once more, but there you go...
Priest pioneered the twin guitar lead, true, but many bands have adopted the style since and are very good at it. Faulkner must be up to the task or they wouldn't have hired him. He's not some busker dragged in from the street, (mind you a lot of them are excellent musicians too !!!). If the tour had been cancelled there'd have been hell on from most fans, a lot would have been directed at KK I reckon too for not seeing it through. Continuing the tour is the best option for all concerned, and had KK Downing been injured or ill this is what most would have wanted and Faulkner would have been the man who saved the day, and his praises would have been sung, although the connoisseurs and musicians amongst you will say they can notice the difference in playing or simply say "but it's not KK". Personally for instance If I were to go and see Dio's band touring this year I would notice that it is Ripper Owens & Toby Jepson (ex Little Angels) on vocals before I'd notice craig Goldy was playing guitar & not Doug Aldridge, much as I like them both.
Nobody is indespensable, the world carries on.
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| [Juda Sve�enik] Friday, April 22, 2011 4:19:20 AM | |
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It will be strange without Priest founder, but I think we all have to accept it, even though KK is indispensable! :// |
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| [nightprowler42] Friday, April 22, 2011 2:29:33 AM | |
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| This is a total and complete shock......I have been a Priest fan for too many years to count.....The dual guitars performed by KK and Glenn will never be able to be replaced by another guitarist. I was super pissed when Rob left, and after a few years, I saw them on tour in New Orleans, LA (House of Blues) that performance, however great the music was, the replacement made me sick. This is supposed to be a "Farewell" Tour, WTF??????...You can't have a "Farewell" Tour without ALL the original memebrs. KK, whatever disagreements you are having with the management and or WHATEVER...........Put the fans first for this tour, then do what you want. I hate to see you leave and you can NEVER be replaced, but do not make us fans suffer. |
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| [Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:57:16 PM | |
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| I put this here also so the newbies can comment if they choose. |
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| [Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:54:33 PM | |
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| [spapad] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:54:01 PM | |
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The tour has not started.
Look at posts on the other side of the board under General Judas Priest Discussion. Even if you can't post, you can read anything over there.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:45:22 PM)| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | So did he just quit? They are in the middle of playing dates! The fans don't deserve this! They need to get it together.. amd don't BS me with this nonsense of the new guy 'fitting in perfectly' my ears can tell the difference!! Priest is too special and they have a too unique a chemistry! This is devastating.
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| [icomearoundnow] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:45:22 PM | |
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So did he just quit? They are in the middle of playing dates! The fans don't deserve this! They need to get it together.. amd don't BS me with this nonsense of the new guy 'fitting in perfectly' my ears can tell the difference!! Priest is too special and they have a too unique a chemistry! This is devastating.
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| [wwol] Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:29:15 PM | |
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I know right. How can they replace him? He co-created the dual guitar sound. Can someone else step in (I just puked in my mouth saying that) and have the same chemistry with Glen it took 40+ yrs to develop? |
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:02:47 PM | |
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I've already gone on record about my nuts. They were kicked with that announcement so hard yesterday that I can still barely speak (or type). "WTF?!" seems to be the only consistent thought going through my mind.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by wwol from Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:58:10 PM)| | | wwol wrote: | | | I respect his choice. I'm just so bummed out. Seeing Priest one more time is EPIC, but now I feel like I just got kicked in the nuts. Won't be the same. What do you think? |
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| [wwol] Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:58:10 PM | |
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| I respect his choice. I'm just so bummed out. Seeing Priest one more time is EPIC, but now I feel like I just got kicked in the nuts. Won't be the same. What do you think? |
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