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[Priest_Fan78] Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:11:24 PM 
I dig Metallica, but you can't compare them to Iron Maiden.
Metallica is faster and more aggressive, but Maiden is more heavy and melodic.

Iron Maiden.
Edited at: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:11:57 PM
[onetreehill] Friday, May 28, 2010 6:37:29 PM 
Maiden by a mile.

For me, Metallica are way over-hyped. They did some good stuff, but when you compare their sound to Iron Maiden, or Judas Priest, they don't have the diversity of sounds. It tends towards the monotone side of things for me. Iron Maiden, at their best, rivalled Priest in several ways, especially thematic and lyrical content. I much prefer songs about flying WWII fighter planes than telling people that I am private property.

Still prefer the Priest, but Iron Maiden are superior to Metallica, for sure.
[PriestFan44] Friday, May 28, 2010 6:33:32 PM 
Definatly Maiden...all the way
[rickpriest92] Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46:22 AM 
i agree, Priest is still fucking awesome, Iron Maiden had their golden years but now they aren't as great as they used to be, Metallica as well, had their golden years, both are still good, but not the same as they used to be. But i guess i will have to say i would chose metallica over Iron Maiden
[diamondusmc] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:53:23 PM 
Priest rules, Metallica is good but they just cannot compare to Rob and the boys.
[Metal.Ed] Saturday, March 06, 2010 4:04:46 AM 
Iron Maiden are way better than Metallica!
[ptaskas] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:59:16 PM 
I pick Maiden a thousand times over Metallica
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:05:04 AM 
Yup, neither are as good as they used to be. Maiden never sold out though, Metallica did big time.  
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:00:50 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:00:50 AM 
I'm sensing a little sarcasm(LOL). Maybe I'm doing it too, I'm not sure. The last thing I want is to get sucked into a back and forth 
about Maiden and Metallica. I've already had my problems here and I'm not totally convinced I'm right on this one.
  Lastly, screw Metallica and Maiden. They both suck when compared to their early shit. I loved them both at one time. I hate them both now.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:53:50 AM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:00:26 AM 

I don't think they are making fun of Maiden, I think they were just messing about as you do when your jamming. If anything it shows that they learned to play a maiden song. 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:54:02 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:54:02 AM 
You make a good point. I'll have to listen now to see if I get that same vibe. I'm not sure the "Run to the Hills" thing
 isn't making fun of Iron Maiden. Did you notice how out of tune it is?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:47:44 AM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:53:50 AM 

Yes I do, I always carry around a notebook of quotes from Metallica talking about how Maiden influenced them in case a debate such as this arises.

" I really like Iron Maiden" James Hetfield 1986.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:48:58 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:48:58 AM 

My original post on this subject was in reference to Metallica wouldn't exist without Maiden...
  That's false. Were Maiden never to exist I guarantee Metallica still would. I'm just curious,
    do you have any quotes that you can post from Metallica saying they were influenced by
      Iron Maiden?


Edited at: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:49:23 AM
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:47:44 AM 
I'm not saying Metallica are Maiden clones or anything but there are Maiden influences in their early work. Fade To Black is similar to the sort of thing maiden do, little classical sounding guitar intros leading into songs, Fight Fire, Justice For All, lyrical themes Four Horsemen, Creeping Death, Phantom Lord. That epic sound a lot of early Metallica songs had. They even jammed out the first few bars of Run To The Hills on Garage Days.
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:39:34 AM 

Lars and James were massive fans of the NWOBHM and Maiden were one of the bands that spearheaded the movement. 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:34:38 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:34:38 AM 
I've heard Metallica say they were influenced by Diamond Head and you can hear it in their music. There
is nothing Maiden like about Metallica.
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:31:02 AM 
Metallica were absolutely influenced by Maiden and many of the other British metal bands of the late 70s and early 80s. They've said so themselves many times.
[Budred] Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:27:06 AM 

I wouldn't say Metallica wouldn't exist without Maiden. Metallica is an American metal band, or at least
used to be. I don't think they were influenced by Maiden at all. Maiden was only out a few years when Metallica
started.

[iamnostradamus88] Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:49:02 PM 

I like Metallica more. However to give credit where credit is due, Iron Maiden is great. There would be no Metallica without them. I get it. I am just much more of a Metallica fan.

[HOT!!! FOR LOVE!!!] Monday, February 01, 2010 1:55:17 PM 



"A certain joker on here is about to get me fired up and that's one thing you don't want to do."


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:11:00 AM)
[Budred] Monday, February 01, 2010 9:30:03 AM 
For the record...
 I'm not jumping on Brian with my comments. I've just developed a hatred
  towards Bruce Dickenson. See my comment below, it may explain.
     If Brian loves Maiden so be it!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:48:15 AM)
[Budred] Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:48:15 AM 
That's how Maiden writes all their new music. (just a joke Maiden fans)
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:00:16 AM 
Hey, wait...WTF what that thing squatting an egg at the beginning of this vid?!? LOL!!!

I'll just wash it from my mind and still hold the line on this one.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:36:54 AM 
Oh, don't mention "Load" lest you want me to drop one! LOL!!!! What a steaming pile!

Sadly, I feel the same about most IM now myself. "Fear" had like ONE song that I think I liked? Can't ever remember what it was. Yeah, that memorable. Three guitarists now and it now sounds like they only have a bass player. What a mess.

I still stand by "Rainmaker," though. Gave me a glimpse of yesteryear. Bought it on the street in México, D.F. for about a buck, I think and I DO pay for the bands I like to support. Yeah, remember I have the full version of Nostra and a "working" copy. Never once would I think of doing that to Priest. Then again, I LISTEN to their music!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:11:00 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:11:00 AM 
 Brian Evens wrote: a certian joker on here is about to get me fired up and thats one thing you don't want to do...
Whoooo I am shakin' in my boots Brian(LMMFAO!!)   Dude,you are a "fucking joke" gone bad guy! Who gives a flyin fuck if Bruce "IS" the best vocalist(wich he is obviously not)and who cares if Steve Harris is the best bass player wich he may be,who cares if Nico is the best drummer....its thier stupid fucking "songs" that "SUCK" shit. Just like Budred below said,they suck!! And 90% of "metal fans" that your talking about don't even know Saxon has material past the 1980's.The fans that I have studied and talked with take this era of Saxon of Iron Maiden "any day".  

You have NO opinion about Iron Maiden exept that you like anything they put out.I was and am an old Maiden fan since 1982 probly before you were even fucking born little boy blue,so get the fuck off your fan-boy wagon and pull your lame unworthy uneducated head out of your ass.  At least I have an opinion of Maiden and other bands for that matter. If they put out "Load" or "Re-Load" albums you would be ranting how they are equal to anything they have ever done ect... thats why you have no say about opinions,you just have one opinion and its 100% Iron Maiden does no wrong,its a joke and I'm calling you out on it,everybody here sees that you are nothing but a fuckin fan-boy  so pack up your bags and go to your lame fan-boy Maiden forum,your not welcome here dumbshit.Now,what else must I say to (lol!) "fire you up" shit for brains??? Let me know,cause I'll push you as far as you can go dork metal-wannabe. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, January 29, 2010 11:14:10 PM)
Edited at: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:18:36 AM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, January 29, 2010 11:14:10 PM 
Iron Maiden has one of the best metal vocalist of all time, Bruce. Maybe the best metal bass player of all time, steve Harris. The three headed monster in guitarist - Dave Murray, Janick Gers, Adrian Smith and one of the best drummers in metal, Nicko. You can't say that about many metal bands. I bet 90% of metal fans would take Iron Maiden over Saxon. No brainer! This is not being a fan-boy  just the facts. And I tell you one thing, a certian joker on here is about to get me fired up and thats one thing you don't want to do. Now I'm going to go post something in my Southen Rock thread. Everyone feel free to post something in it but keep this crud out. Ha!
Edited at: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:38:04 PM
[Budred] Friday, January 29, 2010 6:53:28 PM 
I'm not in much of a position to express an opinion here(i've already been ask to leave).
But I'll give one anyway. Somewhere in Time should be Maiden's theme for the day. that time being the 80's and 
early 90's. I loved Maiden up until Poweslave(the beginning of the end). They basically have sucked since(to me).
I saw them 6 times in concert since 1981 the LAST(by choice) being in 2000. I saw them with Halford opening in Pittsburgh.
They didn't sound horrible it was Bruce Dickenson and his moronic rants. He was on stage, after Rob just plays, and talks 
about how wrong it is to be gay. We don't need homosexuals and things like that. If that's not disrespect than what is.
Does he forget who took his stupid ass out on tour when they were nobodies and gave them exposure. That's how I got 
hooked on them. This is the reason I started who would you kill thread. I was just hoping you guys wouldn't take it serious.
Back to my story, I also went to Cleveland for the same show. I watched Queensryche and Halford then threw the finger 
towards the Maiden stage and left. Whether this pisses anyone off or not I gotta say FUCK IRON MAIDEN!

Edited at: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:56:17 PM
[Deep Freeze] Friday, January 29, 2010 5:19:08 PM 
Well, I love ALL of you and you know that...and I think ol' Brian is a decent enough guy. Don't know how he really feels about every, single thing Maiden does. I mean, I am not in his head. He may make comments that indicate he likes everything they do but I did not actually see that in print so I assume he has a fairly level head about it all.
[Becks] Friday, January 29, 2010 5:15:31 PM 
Ugh that song grinds my gears too!
I'm not going to judge a band by it's great albums or songs, I take each album as it comes. If it's awesome, excellent, if not, then so be it. People who blindly think every album a particular band does is amazing need to get a bit of perspective I think.
And the metal world doesn't revolve around Iron Maiden, despite what some Maiden fanboys may think lol. They've produced their fair share of tedious music in their lifetime.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 29, 2010 4:54:34 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 29, 2010 5:00:50 PM 
See,thats what I'm talking about: You have an opinion of Nostradamus,you really like the album but have an opinion of "an album" and "songs".Your not just lumping Nostradamus in with all Priest and (like Brian Evens) saying that its all the same,every album or era is as good as anything they did. Thats the point.I have no problem with people's opinions,someone likes Maiden better than Saxon cool,good for them I have no problem with that,but to say that one band's entire discography is all the same across the board is fucking ridiculous.
 
That shows the individual really has no true opinion of that certain band at all.Brian Evens LOVES the next Iron Maiden album,and even though he hasn't even heard one song,not even one song title...he already claims this phantom album as good as The Number Of The Beast because he doesn't have to hear it first,its his Maiden band,they can do no fuckin wrong.This is the stupid shit that erks me and baffles my brain. Thats why I said he has no "valid opinions" at all.Maiden could re-record beat for beat Michael Jackson's Thriller album and Brian Evens would be estatic about it and claim its just as good as any Maiden album. This kind of "fan-boyism" makes me fuckin sick. Anything this loser says is not valid and should be thrown to the way-side as garbage.Fuckin fan-boy geek.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 29, 2010 4:02:12 PM)
[guidogodoy] Friday, January 29, 2010 4:54:34 PM 
No, en verdad, I believe it was "The Clairvoynant." While memory fails with age, it was certainly the Fear of the Dark tour and I hated that long, boring song! HAAAA!

pd. I do know that Clairvoyant wasn't on "FotD." They did play it on tour (sadly).

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Al-fons Blazing from Friday, January 29, 2010 4:15:23 PM)
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[Al-fons Blazing] Friday, January 29, 2010 4:15:23 PM 

"COJONES"   Yeah!!!!!!!!

You mean "Heaven can wait", right? I agree with you. When I saw them in 2008 in GDL, there was a chinese or japanese asshole onstage, who had no fucking clue about what he was doing there. Anyway, I was so close to the stage, that I could only hear the monitors. The P.A. was behind me, so the sound was awful.  I was expecting that concert for so long, and in the end, it was very disapointing.

Being an old maiden fan, I have the HUEVOS to say that. LOL.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 29, 2010 3:40:04 PM)
[guidogodoy] Friday, January 29, 2010 4:02:12 PM 
Well, you'll have to leave me out of the Nostra comment, but I do agree with you about IM, and any non-Rob JP album...yeah, that included Turbo. Flipped a car to that one, has a soft spot in my heart. LOL!!!

IM DIDN'T go as bad as Shitallica, though. No doubt. "Rainmaker" is the only example I can give, though. I was one of the biggest fans of both bands UNTIL they started to crank out what I consider crap. That was JP in the non-Rob years, IMO. I followed Halford. Yeah, Two sucked, not a huge fan of the xmas album but both are heads and shoulders above much of the nonsense put out nowadays. IM and Shitallica included. You know I appreciate Nostra. Fanboy or not, I just think it has more good than bad. We'll just set that one aside.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, January 29, 2010 3:47:24 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 29, 2010 3:47:24 PM 
LOL! Thats what I am saying Guido,the last 20 years of this band is "shit". I know you absolutely hate the 2006 "A Matter Of Life And Death" album,I however think its thier best since 1988's Seventh Son album but not better than that album.As I said below,how about a thread of Maiden's 1990 era 4 albums,they fucking suck shit and are nowhere close to albums such as Iron Maiden debut,Killers,Number Of The Beast,Piece Of Mind or Powerslave. 

That would be like all of us saying that Turbo,Ram It Down,Demolition and Nostradamus are just as great as British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Painkiller.Its a joke and shows that individual has no true opinions,you can't just like everything across the board equally it just doesn't happen.Even the utter most faithful fan of any band has opinions of quality of songs and albums,anything more than that crosses into "fan-boyism" and thats what this idiot lame Brian Evens is.He is an Iron Maiden "fan-boy".They can do no wrong,ever.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, January 29, 2010 3:40:04 PM)
Edited at: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:01:48 PM
[guidogodoy] Friday, January 29, 2010 3:40:04 PM 
I have the cojones to say that I was on stage during one of the WORST songs I could have imagined. Probably why they wanted people to come up on stage.

Fear of the Dark tour. GAAAA! While I was excited to be there and my buddy had no clue as to the song we were supposed to show up on "stage left" (literally),  that also marks the last IM album I purchased (legally).
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, January 29, 2010 3:32:27 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 29, 2010 3:32:27 PM 
Why should they read any "crap" there when they can read it "here"?! (lmmfao guys) Dude,you are a worthless stupid fucking Iron Maiden "fan-boy" who has NO valid opinions of this band at all. Nobody is saying that you can't like all Iron Maiden songs/albums the same way,but your doing it because your a "fan-boy" idiot. Why don't you create a thread on 1990's 4 albums by Iron Maiden as see what they response will be just at this forum alone,95% will be "negative" 5% will be fan-boys like your dumb fuckin ass.

If Maiden put out a Boy George Culture Club album you would love it because to you its all the same. If Maiden put out a country western album you would love it,since to you its all the same. You claim that 1990's era Maiden is just as good as early 80's Maiden,its your opinion,but your all alone on that one,thats all I was saying in the first fucking place.(lol!) 

Your a dumb fucking moron who doesn't have enough "balls" to post something negative about your Maiden band,to you they crush Saxon blah blah blah to funny,who the fuck cares? I don't ya idiot,I'm just laughing my fuckin ass off reading your false stupid posts about how great Iron Maiden is when they are almost just as overrated as shittalica. 

At least I HAVE an opinion of Saxon,I know when they put out a shitty song or a shitty album,just as I know it when Priest or Maiden does....you don't have a fucking clue as to what a shitty song or album is since to you Maiden can do no wrong,to you they have golden balls haha! Dude,your such a stupid little fucking fan boy and really do you need to be here? No.So do us all a favor and get the fuck out,alls you are is a lame fucking fan-boy Iron Maiden ass-kisser who has no balls and an invalid opinion of heavy metal music. Hey Brian...."GO FUCK YOURSELF AND THEN WHEN YOUR THROUGH WITH THAT LITTLE TASK,GO FUCK IRON MAIDEN" shit for brains.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, January 29, 2010 12:20:02 AM)
Edited at: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:40:06 PM
[Brian_Evans] Friday, January 29, 2010 12:20:02 AM 
If anyone wants to read all the crap that joker wrote about me for no reason at all just click on Vaillant 3.0 post below. Ha!
[Brian_Evans] Friday, January 29, 2010 12:13:51 AM 
I'd like to hear that guy in Saxon try to pull this off. Ha!
[Brian_Evans] Friday, January 29, 2010 12:04:49 AM 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:12:19 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Friday, January 29, 2010 12:01:55 AM 
Hey smart-mouth, I see you edited your post there. Joker! Ha!! Thats funny!! I say I like Iron Maiden and that they dominate Saxon and you can't handle it. Whats your problem?  My opinion about 1990's Iron Maiden is the same as any other era, they completly destroy and dominate Saxon. And Motorhead? Ha!! I drove 100 miles to see them and the jokers didn't show up! I go to see Iron Maiden and they put on a great show. Like I said before that guys voice  in Saxon just doesn't cut in my opinion.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:56:28 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:25:48 PM 
I don't like "From Here To Eternity"  but I left that one off of the lame list of songs on this album just to give the album a break but that doesn't even save it, what about these 7 tracks:

Afaid To Shoot Strangers
Fear Is The Key
Childhood's End
Wasting Love
Chains Of Misery
The Apparation
Weekend Warrior

Take one off that list and you still have 6 shitty songs out of 12.Even take 2 songs off it and you still have a shitty album because of the 5 shit songs remaining.This is why I don't consider Fear Of The Dark a good album.That would be like me trying to say that Saxon's 1992 Forever Free is a good album because its got 4 songs on it that are cool and 6 songs that are a joke let alone an embarrasment,same with 1990's Solid Ball Of Rock album,its got 4 songs that are great Saxon tracks and like 6 others that are horrible,so I don't consider them good LPs and I feel the same about No Prayer For The Dying and Fear Of The Dark,put Brave New World and Dance Of Death in that category as well. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:22:52 PM)
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[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:44:35 PM 
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't worry, man. We all have our goof-ups when we wake up!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:06:42 PM)
[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:53:56 PM 
Attention Jimmy and J.D., I deserve that, That conversation has evolved much like myself.
                              I'll stay out of it from now on. Go to web police we can discuss anything. You guys
                             hate me right now but you'll see, I'm not that bad. Just an ass sometimes. Aren't
                            we all? I fucked up!
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:44:43 PM 
Cool, can't wait to see it.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Al-fons Blazing from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:28:27 PM)
[Al-fons Blazing] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:28:27 PM 
I don't like Bruce's singing in this whole album. 

I do love Maiden, but I can´t stand some of their albums.

I played a Maiden tribute last month. As soon as i get the DVD, I'll post it here.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:22:52 PM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:22:52 PM 
Can't believe you don't like it. I think it's a great song, something a bit different from Maiden for sure but awesome in my opinion.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Al-fons Blazing from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:20:29 PM)
[Al-fons Blazing] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:20:29 PM 

The only good thing about this song, is when it appeared in Beavis and Butthead...

"Even if they did this unplugged, they would still had explotions"

Beavis commented on this song video... HUHUHUHU.. That was cool...
www.youtube.com/watch


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:12:19 PM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:13:41 PM 
It would just melt in your mouth Freeze.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:03:57 PM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:12:19 PM 
You forgot.....

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:07:00 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:07:00 PM 

In my opinion Fear Of The Dark is fucking lame. The only good tracks on that album out of 12 songs 4 of them are only woth a shit: Be Quick Or Be Dead,The Fugative,Judas Be My Guide and Fear Of The Dark.Those other 8 songs to me are fucking terrible!!!   Even if somebody was to fight for 2 more songs...thats still only 6 good tracks out of 12..the album sucks big time to me.I can't and never understood how people like this LP all the way through.

Afaid To Shoot Strangers
Fear Is The Key
Childhood's End
Wasting Love
Chains Of Misery
The Apparation
Weekend Warrior


Those 7 songs are freaking TERRIBLE!!!  


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:51:38 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:03:57 PM 
A dog with leprosy???? Oh MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! FOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:51:38 PM)
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:51:38 PM 
Here's an opinion on 90's Maiden. No Prayer is crap, Tailgunner, Running Silent, Bring Your Daughter only good songs. Fear Of The Dark is a good album. Blaze era is musical equivalent of blowing a dog with leprosy. So in summary 10 years, one good album + 3 songs.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:40:07 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:40:07 PM 
LOL! Well,Brian is "Butt hurt " I'm sure because I've been trying to crack an actual opinion out of him about the 1990's Iron Maiden,but as fanboyish as he is,it seems everything they do is golden? lol!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:35:00 PM)
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[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:35:00 PM 
HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Yeah, I just hope Brian isn't...... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:32:32 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:32:32 PM 
LOL! Yeah I pulled a stupid one there Freeze,as I said....maybe I should wake up alittle more before I post something? lofl Freeze! At least I can laugh at myself while others would of been "butt-hurt" right? lol!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:13:54 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:13:54 PM 
I feel bad for poor Brian.......HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:06:42 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:06:42 PM 
HAHAHAHAHA I haven't been up but 15 minutes lol!!! Maybe I should go back to bed Vail?? lofl!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:58:39 PM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:58:39 PM 
*psst* Umm...J.D....that's not Brian Evans.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:56:28 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:56:28 PM 
Oh shut the fuck up dweeb lol!  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:13:22 AM)
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[jimmyjames] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:43:53 PM 

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  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:13:22 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:13:22 AM 
Just curious, when did Metallica become Saxon? The topic is Metallica vs. Maiden.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:09:08 AM 
Also,lets forget about Saxon....lets bring in Motorhead...Lemmy isn't supposed to have a voice as good as Bruce,but yet Motorhead's albums the last 15 years are excellent and consistant for "Motorhead fans"and Maiden's last 7 albums are not consistant at all.I know its all opinions but from the fan base I've read and with what I have personally heard from fans here the last 20 years of Iron Maiden's songs are really not  consistant at all.They only give you a couple of worthy tracks on each record and the rest are b-side worthy tracks at best. 

Like the Brave New World album...the tracks The Wicker Man,Ghoast Of The Navigator,The Nomad,Out Of The Silent Planet and The Thin Line...those tracks are great Maiden tracks but the tracks Brave New World,Blood Brothers,Dream Of Mirrors,The Mercenary,Fallen Angel...those 5 tracks are really not that great,I know they don't have to be as good as the other 5 tracks but to me they are hard to listen to,they don't come close to making up the rest of the album to make a great record.Thats how I see it,or hear it if you will.

And I'm an Iron Maiden fan and have been since 1982 man,I am extreamly picky but not being ridiculous with a negative opinion,I am closely listening for classic quality songs by this band and the old school fan base craves material as good as Piece Of Mind and Powersalve and earlier of course,but they come up short with thier song writting .

Is 1990's No Prayer For The Dying that great to you? It wasn't for me.There were 10 tracks on it and only maybe 4 of them were cool...Tailgunner,Run Silent Run Deep,Assassin and Mother Russia....the other 6 songs are shit and anoying and they spank of band song writting choices. Same goes with Fear Of The Dark....was that areally that great of an album? I mean I love the track Be Quick Or Be Dead...fuckin awsome,and maybe The Fugitive and the track "Fear Of The Dark...maybe one more but thats only 4 good songs and that album has 12 songs on it so there are the other 8 songs that are totally lame and it baffles me that they write a great track in Be Quick Or Be Dead and then botch the rest of the album with crappy songs? Its lazy.
 
And you along with I don't like either album by Blaze Baily(yuk) and that Dance Of Death album...really,there is only maybe 2 or 3 songs on it that are cool(I don't like any of that album)and is the rest really that good it can compare to other tracks on Piece Of Mind or Powerslave or even Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son? Really there isn't.So I can't see other Iron Maiden fans passing the band's last 7 albums off as if they were just as good as The Number Of The Beast album,because they are nowhere close,where as other bands such as Saxon and Motorhead are writting the best albums of their career.I'm not trying to get you to like Saxon or Motorhead better than you like Maiden,I'm just comparing my opinions to yours because again,I'm an Iron Maiden fan too.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:08:43 AM)
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:27:51 AM 
HAHAHA!! Whatever floats yer boat dude.In my opinion Iron Maiden are "overrated" while Saxon is big time "underrated". And Biff Byford in my opinion is better than Dickinson.Bruce goes off on this caterwalling "pavaroti wannabe" type of singing live while Biff keeps it real,

Bruce is the most irritating live singer in the history of metal.I love his studio work but his live irritating vocals I can't stand.Some live tracks are ok but others are plain right out "over-done" by the vocalist.  Maiden doesn't come close in "destroying" Saxon at all dude.

like I said...if you think Maiden's songs and albums from 1990 - till now are better than Saxon good for you but they are not.I can't say that everyone says that Maiden from 1990 -till now are better than Saxon but I have heard that at least 90% of fans think that Maiden's material of song writting from the 1990 No Prayer For The Dying album till now sucks big time. 

Like I keep saying,the last 7 studio album from Iron Maiden are extreamly "poor" quality albums with the only exception of thier last album and even thats not as good as anything from the last 7 studio albums by Saxon.I suppose your just one of the "fan-boy" Maiden fans...anything they do is A+ material...well good for you.

I actually have a valid opinion of both bands.You just drool over anything Maiden does apparently.So really,your opinion from a "fan-boy" is irrelevant to me.Saxon crushes the crap out of Iron Maiden and they have now for the last 15 years!!!  

 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:08:43 AM)
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[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:08:43 AM 
Looks like I win! Ha! Can't beliveve you think that guy in Saxon is even in the same league as Bruce Dickinson. Maiden basically destroys Saxon!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:35:12 AM)
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:48:32 PM 
CRANK IT.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:08:37 PM 
LOL! Well,I'm just so sick and tired of everybody ranting and raving whoo hooo about "Iron Maiden"...at how they are the best metal band in the freaking world,they have no shitty songs,every one of thier albums are a+ quality material,no matter what...whatever they write MUST BE BETTER THAN PRIEST,MOTORHEAD,SABBATH,DIO,SAXON,ect....its a freakin "joke"jimmy to say the least man.I'm not saying Saxon are better than Judas Priest,oh hell no...Priest are my #1 favorite band in the world.But I'm going "against the grain"....against the norm,I'm sticking up for Saxon because "I'm givin credit where credit is due". 

I'm not Saying that Saxon doesn't do no wrong either...they still write a couple of boring cheesey tunes too but they only write maybe 2 shit songs on an average on each of thier albums and the rest are cool.If Saxon has 10 songs on an album,at least 8 of them are cool (this is from the last 7 studio albums starting from 1995)where as Maiden writes an album and only if your lucky half of thier songs are cool and the other half are total "shit".
 
Look at the No Prayer For The Dying LP1990...that album has 10 songs on it and really there is only 3 songs on it that are good Maiden tracks...I could be nice and let them get away with 4 songs. Same thing with 1992 "Fear Of The Dark" that album has 12 songs on it and only 3 of them are good Iron Maiden,the rest is fucking garbage man. 

Look at the next 2 albums 1995 The X Factor and 1998 Virtual Eleven both with lame singer Blaze Baily but still all of those fucking songs suck big time...maybe you could get 3 ok tracks between both albums? Maybe if your lucky.Look at the next album year 2000 Brave New World...10 trakcs on the LP and really only 5 of them are good,maybe you could argue a 6th track,but thats still 4 shitty songs on the album.Look at 2003 album Dance Of Death...I hate that entire record and label it as Bruce Dickinson's worst album with Iron Maiden,10 tracks on that album and maybe you could squeeze 2 worthy songs off it,but in my opinion it all sucks. 

Then 2006 album A Matter Of Life And Death....10 songs on this LP and I actually like 8 of them,but the 2 songs that totally fucking suck are the 2 songs that the band put out as videos and as the first 2 singles off the album,not to mention track#1 off the album is one of the songs that sucks "Different World"..it blows like Benjamin Bragg does(yuk) but at least the rest of the album is good Iron Maiden in my opinion.So I just covered the last 20 years from Iron Maiden wich is the last 7 studio albums and they are mother fucking "overrated" big time jimmy!!!! lol! 

They are a bunch of overrated musicians that thier fans buy anything by them no matter how much the album sucks they buy it for the picture of Eddie on the front cover and they go see Iron Maiden to hear them play "The Number Of The Beast"...thats just about it,that sums up the average Iron Maiden fan.
 
Again,I'm not saying Saxon doesn't have any flaws because they write some stupid songs too but they are no where near the amount that Maiden writes. 1995 album Dogs Of War...10 songs and only 2 of them suck,1997 Unleash The Beast....11 tracks and only 2 songs suck,1999 Metalhead album...only 2 songs suck,2001 Killing Ground album only 1 song sucks,2004 Lionheart...all the songs are awsome! 2007 The Inner Sanctum...all the songs are awsome!! 2009 Into The Labyrinth...only 2 songs suck out of 13 songs. 

So Saxon the last 7 studio albums are extreamly way more consistant at writting good songs and obviously writting good albums than the unconsistant overrated band Iron Maiden and I'm comparing the 2 bands on the last 7 studio albums approx. the last 20 years by both bands. In The 80's Iron Maiden blows Saxon away with Maiden's first 5 studio album up to Powerslave but not anymore as I've said Saxon kicks Maiden's ass these days man.

Saxon doesn't get enough credit for thier song writting. 2004 album "Lionheart" is Saxon's best LP and it stands up to such albums as "Screaming For Vengeance,Holy Diver,Diary Of A Madman,The Number Of The Beast,Ride The Lightning...easily yet nobody ever hears of them,so I'm just giving credit where credit is due,thats all.Hails to the most underrated heavy metal band in the world...Saxon! lol!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:57:09 PM) Edited at: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:15:16 PM
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[jimmyjames] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:57:09 PM 
Seriously, Saxon should put you on the payroll.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:35:12 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:35:12 AM 
LOL! HAHA sure I'll humor you,why not...heres "To lIve By The Sword" off of Lionheart album.The Nomad song is cool too,but the problem is that Brave New World only has 5 songs out of 10 songs that are cool,the other 5 songs suck man. They have 5 killer Maiden tracks: The Wicker Man,Ghost Of The Navigator, The Nomad,Out Of The Silent Planet  and The Thin Line Between Love And Hate .And they have 5 shitty boring mundane overrated tracks like the boring: Brave New World, Blood Brothers,The Mercenary ,Dream Of Mirrors  and The Fallen Angel.

That makes only a half an album thats worth a shit,this is all my personal opinions of course but I'm basing this off of feed back from multiple fans who have commented on both Maiden albums and Saxon albums.What I'm saying is that Saxon for what they are supposed to be doing are doing it "better" than what Maiden has been doing the last 20 years thats the last 7 studio albums from them. They are all "half-assed" with the exception of 2006's "A Matter Of Life And Death"...that album has 10 songs on it and in my opinion 8 of them are classic Iron Maiden,thier best album since 1988's Seventh Son album.

But the last 7 studio albums by Maiden are really not that great. Brave New World to me is only half good,Dance Of Death is absolutely terrible in my opinion.Now I know you hate the Blaze era and so do I!!! But lets go 2 albums before tha...1990 "No Prayer For The Dying" and 1992 "Fear Of The Dark"...both those albums are extreamly "poor" song writting and theres only like 2 songs from each album that are worthy,the rest of those 2 albums are throw-away material to the max man,they are fucking garbage. I'm not saying you have to like Saxon better than Maiden,I'm just sticking up for Saxon because they have blown Iron Maiden out of the freaking water with Saxon's last 7 studio albums,they tower over Iron Maiden. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, January 25, 2010 11:23:45 PM)
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[Brian_Evans] Monday, January 25, 2010 11:23:45 PM 
Bruce dickinson is way better than that guy in Saxon. Do you really think that guy in Saxon could pull off a song like Nomad ,The Tropper, Aces High?? I don't think so. That guy in Saxon is just not at the same level as Bruce.

How about an Iron Maiden-Saxon shootout?

Post a Saxon video as good as the one I posted below and I guarantee you i'll post something by Maiden that is better.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, January 25, 2010 10:23:04 PM 
HAHAHA well to maybe you they are,but no denying that the last 7 studio album by Saxon are far better,really....the last 7 stidio albums by Maiden are really not that good at all.Biff Byford's voice is much better than Bruce's voice in my opinion,its just all opinions but Saxon are way better than Iron Maiden from 1990 till now,maybe Iron Maiden from 1980-1985 were better I agree but from 1990 till now ....no freaking way man,Saxon are far far better song writters,Maiden are the biggest overrated band in the world besides Metallica.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, January 25, 2010 7:25:18 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Monday, January 25, 2010 7:31:33 PM 
This is sick!!!
[Brian_Evans] Monday, January 25, 2010 7:25:18 PM 
Well Iron Maiden is still way better than Saxon any day. Except maybe the Blaze Bayly era. And I don't care for that guys voice in Saxon at all. Maiden has a superior singer, better guitarist, bass, drums, ect. Iron Maiden is sick!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, January 25, 2010 5:33:59 AM 

No way,Maiden can't touch Saxon these days.The last 7 studio albums by Saxon blow away the last 7 studio albums by Iron Maiden by FAR.

Saxon's last 7:

1995 -Dogs Of War
1997-Unleash The Beast
1999-Metalhead
2001-Killing Ground
2004-Lionheart
2007-The Inner Sanctum
2009-Into The Labyrinth

(Out of these 7 studio albums only 7 songs are crappy,where as on Maiden's last 7 studio albums they are filled with shitty b-side throw away tracks  and only have very little amount of worthy tracks in my opinion:)

VS.

Iron Maiden's last 7

1990 -No prayer For The Dying(crappy album)
1992 -Fear Of The Dark (crappy album)
1995-The X Factor(fucking horrible,worst Iron Maiden album ever)
1998-Virtual Eleven(absolutely terrible)
2000-Brave New World(half good,haf total crap album)
2003-Dance Of Death(shit album,the worst album with Bruce ever)
2006-A Matter Of Life And Death(finally,a worthy album,not thier best but the best album since 1988 Seventh Son album)

No freakin' way are Iron Maiden better than Saxon the last 7 studio albums,Saxon blows Maiden out of the water in quality song writting.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:47:44 PM)
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[Becks] Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:10:04 PM 
A very succinct description there of Lars Ulrich JJ.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:03:15 PM)
[jimmyjames] Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:03:15 PM 
I'd have to say Maiden because they aren't a bunch of arrogant, dipshits and they've never compromised their sound. Also they don't have a drummer who is the most irritating little cockhead on the planet.
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:47:44 PM 
Two outstanding bands but Maiden rules. And Maiden is way better than Saxon.
[Budred] Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:36:45 PM 
I've seen Iron Maiden 6 times since 1981 and Metallica 10 times since 1987.
Metallica destroys Iron Maiden(and I like Maiden).Peace!  }: o 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:53:45 PM 
Yes Iron Maiden are better than shitallica,but dude..."that ain't sayin' much at all man!! Its ridiculous to post Judas Priest Vs. whomever because we are on the freakin' Judas Priest forum,but put Maiden up against a real band like "Saxon"....my vote goes out to Saxon obviously,they kick the livin shit out of Maiden the last 20 years(1990-2010)no contest.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Frosty from Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:46:06 PM)
[Frosty] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:46:06 PM 
I fuckin hate Metallica, so Maiden every time.
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