Interesting. The vast majority of rock music on my iPod is from the 60's, 70's and 80's. Plus the material from the 90's and 00's tend to be from the bands who have been around for man years. Maiden, Kiss, Priest, AC/DC etc. I like Airbourne though.
When the greats finally hang up their guitars music, who knows? Edited at: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:47:03 AM
[Sheba_69] Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:03:11 AM
NO
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:15:29 AM
RUNNING WILD - MASQUERADE -1995 Totally excellent pure heavy metal.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:01:41 PM
Check out this last track on Night Of The Stormrider "Travel In Stygian"...listen when the vocalist starts in,it reminds me of Halford influence big time,this album is like Judas Priest,old Iron Maiden and old Metallica with Cliff Burton's sound back then ect...this whole album is excellent,a true masterpiece of heavy metal.
Iced Earth - Night Of The Stormrider,Running Wild - Black Hand Inn,Running Wild - Masquerade....3 albums that belong in a heavy metal fan's collection in my opinion.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, May 01, 2010 1:42:48 PM) Edited at: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:07:17 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, May 01, 2010 1:59:58 PM
I'll let ya know Ron lol! The only 2 band's albums that I would recommend are not new but I would definately recommend Running Wild's Black Hand Inn album,or the Masquerade album,those 2 are total british heavy metal with a vocalist that doesn't irritate,or try to overkill it ect...
Check out those 2 albums,they are a pleasure to listen to minus a song or 2 but as I said there are more than enough songs on each album to make up an album's worth of british styled heavy metal. The other album would be Iced Earth's Night Of the Stormrider,that album is a classic of british styled heavy metal.
I'd have to agree with you there J.D.. It would be cool if there were a couple of them out there to bide the time between shows from out favorites, a couple I wouldn't shelling hard earned cash for. Let me know if you run across any!! (seriously)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I've heard them before,I don't have anything by them but yeah they are old school metal-punk from the 80's your correct.They are not bad for oldschool. And yeah,metal/heavy metal doesn't need to be as popular as Iron Maiden is when the traditional metal giants retire,but it would be cool if there were a band or 2 that emerged onto the scene that had more influences of Priest,old Maiden and Saxon.I wouldn't want a band to totally copy them,but I really think that more bands should try and incorporate traditional british heavy metal into thier style and image but somehow still write quality good songs,wich is easier said than done I know,but it would be nice,
aceroperuano wrote:
High Spirits is recent band I particulary like, the voice isn't "wow!" but is pretty decent for a demo, anyway I think is enough classic metal innfluenced to put a couple of song here:
About the topic: I actually agree about golden age of Heavy Metal being completely gone, the passion for classic Heavy Metal(Saxon, Diamond Head, Judas Priest,etc) will be dramatically reduced, most kids today are or into death/gore/black metal or trendy mallcore and crapcore, that can't be changed, kids always want the louder and noisier music, even if is crap music(mallcore), and old classic metal bands dissapearing is not helping, and as any kind of music, Is not gonna actually disappear, just reduced the amount of listeners, I hardly believe that a new band will appear and gonna be as great as the traditional metal giants, so we must accept that Heavy Metal will become a more dark and underground movement that it is right now, I can live with that, for me this was never about belonging to a larger group or a trend, it just will be more difficult to find metalheads, true metalheads, in the future.
PD: hey J.D., that's one great speed metal album I tell ya, Exciter has always been an amazing speed metal trio, and talking about metal trios, have you ever listened Warfare??, great britsh punkish metal vibe:
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[ron h] Saturday, May 01, 2010 1:42:48 PM
I'd have to agree with you there J.D.. It would be cool if there were a couple of them out there to bide the time between shows from out favorites, a couple I wouldn't shelling hard earned cash for. Let me know if you run across any!! (seriously) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:40:35 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I've heard them before,I don't have anything by them but yeah they are old school metal-punk from the 80's your correct.They are not bad for oldschool. And yeah,metal/heavy metal doesn't need to be as popular as Iron Maiden is when the traditional metal giants retire,but it would be cool if there were a band or 2 that emerged onto the scene that had more influences of Priest,old Maiden and Saxon.I wouldn't want a band to totally copy them,but I really think that more bands should try and incorporate traditional british heavy metal into thier style and image but somehow still write quality good songs,wich is easier said than done I know,but it would be nice,
aceroperuano wrote:
High Spirits is recent band I particulary like, the voice isn't "wow!" but is pretty decent for a demo, anyway I think is enough classic metal innfluenced to put a couple of song here:
About the topic: I actually agree about golden age of Heavy Metal being completely gone, the passion for classic Heavy Metal(Saxon, Diamond Head, Judas Priest,etc) will be dramatically reduced, most kids today are or into death/gore/black metal or trendy mallcore and crapcore, that can't be changed, kids always want the louder and noisier music, even if is crap music(mallcore), and old classic metal bands dissapearing is not helping, and as any kind of music, Is not gonna actually disappear, just reduced the amount of listeners, I hardly believe that a new band will appear and gonna be as great as the traditional metal giants, so we must accept that Heavy Metal will become a more dark and underground movement that it is right now, I can live with that, for me this was never about belonging to a larger group or a trend, it just will be more difficult to find metalheads, true metalheads, in the future.
PD: hey J.D., that's one great speed metal album I tell ya, Exciter has always been an amazing speed metal trio, and talking about metal trios, have you ever listened Warfare??, great britsh punkish metal vibe:
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:40:35 PM
Yeah I've heard them before,I don't have anything by them but yeah they are old school metal-punk from the 80's your correct.They are not bad for oldschool. And yeah,metal/heavy metal doesn't need to be as popular as Iron Maiden is when the traditional metal giants retire,but it would be cool if there were a band or 2 that emerged onto the scene that had more influences of Priest,old Maiden and Saxon.I wouldn't want a band to totally copy them,but I really think that more bands should try and incorporate traditional british heavy metal into thier style and image but somehow still write quality good songs,wich is easier said than done I know,but it would be nice, [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by aceroperuano from Friday, April 30, 2010 1:51:09 PM)
aceroperuano wrote:
High Spirits is recent band I particulary like, the voice isn't "wow!" but is pretty decent for a demo, anyway I think is enough classic metal innfluenced to put a couple of song here:
About the topic: I actually agree about golden age of Heavy Metal being completely gone, the passion for classic Heavy Metal(Saxon, Diamond Head, Judas Priest,etc) will be dramatically reduced, most kids today are or into death/gore/black metal or trendy mallcore and crapcore, that can't be changed, kids always want the louder and noisier music, even if is crap music(mallcore), and old classic metal bands dissapearing is not helping, and as any kind of music, Is not gonna actually disappear, just reduced the amount of listeners, I hardly believe that a new band will appear and gonna be as great as the traditional metal giants, so we must accept that Heavy Metal will become a more dark and underground movement that it is right now, I can live with that, for me this was never about belonging to a larger group or a trend, it just will be more difficult to find metalheads, true metalheads, in the future.
PD: hey J.D., that's one great speed metal album I tell ya, Exciter has always been an amazing speed metal trio, and talking about metal trios, have you ever listened Warfare??, great britsh punkish metal vibe:
Iced Earth's first 2 albums "Iced Earth"(1990) and Night Of The Stormrider(1992)are by FAR the 2 best Iced Earth albums of all,the other albums are in a compleately different style,but for some reason the first 2 albums I really like.
Some of those other bands I mentioned are not pure heavy metal jimmy,some are in a heavy metal/trash style like Hallow's Eve,Razor,Hirax and Deathrow but they still have some heavy metal influences,just mixed with thrash like old Metallica.
If you want any of these cds after you listen to them,let me know I'll burn you them so you don't have to hassle with it ect....
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:08:27 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
That was a pretty cool song, might look into some of those bands you mentioned.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Running Wild - Black Hand Inn -1994 This reminds me of hints of old Iron Maiden with Running Wild's signature style,but very british heavy metal styled,this album is good except for like 2 songs,but there are 8 tracks that make up an albums worth of worthy british styled heavy metal and for me a tolerable vocalist.
I'm glad I bought this album,a breath of fresh air and a worthy heavy metal album when I am not reaching for Judas Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Motorhead,Dio,(old)Iron Maiden,Exciter,Hallow's Eve,Agent Steel(first album),Razor(Executioner's Song album only)Hirax(A New Age Of Terror LP)Deathrow(Raging Steel album)Iced Earth (first 2 albums only)King Diamond(Fatal Portrait,The Eye,Voodoo & The Puppet Master albums only!)cds to play.
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[aceroperuano] Friday, April 30, 2010 1:51:09 PM
High Spirits is recent band I particulary like, the voice isn't "wow!" but is pretty decent for a demo, anyway I think is enough classic metal innfluenced to put a couple of song here:
About the topic: I actually agree about golden age of Heavy Metal being completely gone, the passion for classic Heavy Metal(Saxon, Diamond Head, Judas Priest,etc) will be dramatically reduced, most kids today are or into death/gore/black metal or trendy mallcore and crapcore, that can't be changed, kids always want the louder and noisier music, even if is crap music(mallcore), and old classic metal bands dissapearing is not helping, and as any kind of music, Is not gonna actually disappear, just reduced the amount of listeners, I hardly believe that a new band will appear and gonna be as great as the traditional metal giants, so we must accept that Heavy Metal will become a more dark and underground movement that it is right now, I can live with that, for me this was never about belonging to a larger group or a trend, it just will be more difficult to find metalheads, true metalheads, in the future.
PD: hey J.D., that's one great speed metal album I tell ya, Exciter has always been an amazing speed metal trio, and talking about metal trios, have you ever listened Warfare??, great britsh punkish metal vibe:
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 30, 2010 1:43:33 PM
EXCITER - LONG LIVE THE LOUD -1985 Edited at: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:43:46 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 30, 2010 2:08:57 AM
Iced Earth - Stormrider -1992
Iced Earth's first 2 albums "Iced Earth"(1990) and Night Of The Stormrider(1992)are by FAR the 2 best Iced Earth albums of all,the other albums are in a compleately different style,but for some reason the first 2 albums I really like.
Some of those other bands I mentioned are not pure heavy metal jimmy,some are in a heavy metal/trash style like Hallow's Eve,Razor,Hirax and Deathrow but they still have some heavy metal influences,just mixed with thrash like old Metallica.
If you want any of these cds after you listen to them,let me know I'll burn you them so you don't have to hassle with it ect....
That was a pretty cool song, might look into some of those bands you mentioned.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Running Wild - Black Hand Inn -1994 This reminds me of hints of old Iron Maiden with Running Wild's signature style,but very british heavy metal styled,this album is good except for like 2 songs,but there are 8 tracks that make up an albums worth of worthy british styled heavy metal and for me a tolerable vocalist.
I'm glad I bought this album,a breath of fresh air and a worthy heavy metal album when I am not reaching for Judas Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Motorhead,Dio,(old)Iron Maiden,Exciter,Hallow's Eve,Agent Steel(first album),Razor(Executioner's Song album only)Hirax(A New Age Of Terror LP)Deathrow(Raging Steel album)Iced Earth (first 2 albums only)King Diamond(Fatal Portrait,The Eye,Voodoo & The Puppet Master albums only!)cds to play.
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:08:27 PM
That was a pretty cool song, might look into some of those bands you mentioned. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:14:12 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Running Wild - Black Hand Inn -1994 This reminds me of hints of old Iron Maiden with Running Wild's signature style,but very british heavy metal styled,this album is good except for like 2 songs,but there are 8 tracks that make up an albums worth of worthy british styled heavy metal and for me a tolerable vocalist.
I'm glad I bought this album,a breath of fresh air and a worthy heavy metal album when I am not reaching for Judas Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Motorhead,Dio,(old)Iron Maiden,Exciter,Hallow's Eve,Agent Steel(first album),Razor(Executioner's Song album only)Hirax(A New Age Of Terror LP)Deathrow(Raging Steel album)Iced Earth (first 2 albums only)King Diamond(Fatal Portrait,The Eye,Voodoo & The Puppet Master albums only!)cds to play.
Edited at: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24:21 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:14:12 PM
Running Wild - Black Hand Inn -1994 This reminds me of hints of old Iron Maiden with Running Wild's signature style,but very british heavy metal styled,this album is good except for like 2 songs,but there are 8 tracks that make up an albums worth of worthy british styled heavy metal and for me a tolerable vocalist.
I'm glad I bought this album,a breath of fresh air and a worthy heavy metal album when I am not reaching for Judas Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Motorhead,Dio,(old)Iron Maiden,Exciter,Hallow's Eve,Agent Steel(first album),Razor(Executioner's Song album only)Hirax(A New Age Of Terror LP)Deathrow(Raging Steel album)Iced Earth (first 2 albums only)King Diamond(Fatal Portrait,The Eye,Voodoo & The Puppet Master albums only!)cds to play.
Edited at: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24:21 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:10:52 PM
Well the sound is heavy metal but I can't really get into the vocalist,but that doesn't mean that my opinion should be a deciding factor,to others they may be excellent. First listen,I just can't get into it. The only heavy metal band that I've recently got into was Running Wild but only half of thier discography,the other half is not to my likings. I think that Running Wild's vocalist R.Kasperik sounds good because his vocals are low ranged and sounds a bit like Paul Di Anno from the Killers album,that kind of style. But again,my opinion means nothing as its just "an opinion" nothing more. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:37:01 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
What do you think of these guys JD? White Wizzard.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Absolutely not. There are no current bands that I've seen/heard that are grabbing my attention and have the british heavy metal sound with good song writting and good vocals,there is just not. There are many bands with good music but when the vocals start,it ruins it for me,just like Craig W. doesn't mind Saxon's music but for him its ruined when Biff starts to sing.
To me Biff is heavy metal's second best vocalist but to others Biff is irritating,it is what it is. But I just haven't heard anything that "kicks ass"....sure there are "ok" stuff but nothing that is exciting. I think bands should first focus on a good vocalist,then the song writting and I think they should up-tune thier guitars like British Steel,Blizzard Of Oz,ect....instead of down tuning them to go with the trend.
jimmyjames wrote:
I meant like Priest, Maiden, Saxon etc. Have you heard of any newer bands that are good playing that kind of metal?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No. I do not like any "new" bands in the black metal underground or the death metal underground. The scenes are ruined and have been for years now,something I never thought would happen 15 years ago but it has arrived.
Especially the last 5 or 6 years,it has become a circus of embarressment. The last new bands to come out that I like was Cult Of Daath(2000), Graven(2000) Sargeist(2000) all black metal bands.But thats about it.
No black/death metal bands that I like play in a traditional metal sense,they play in the black/death traditional sense,not heavy metal. A few bands that I like called it quits because of how lame the so called "scene" is like A.J.Harris Judas Iscariot quit in 2002 and the legendary Mutiilation from France that started in 1992 just recently quit in 2008. Its a sad joke
This scene used to be hidden and elite I remember back in 1994 around that time,there was not as many people that got into this music back then,it made up for a great scene where things were fresh and exciting,but nowadays the kiddies in thier bedrooms through the help of the internet and endless trend record labels swampped the scene and made this into a mear "joke".
I really am sick by this and is one of many reasons why I joined this forum on January 1st 2005,it was more satisfying to me to talk to fans of heavy metal vs.black metal the way it was heading.
Hey I know you're into black metal and a lot of that underground stuff but are there any bands around these days who are newish and play the sort of music you like in a more traditional metal sense?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:37:01 PM
What do you think of these guys JD? White Wizzard.
Absolutely not. There are no current bands that I've seen/heard that are grabbing my attention and have the british heavy metal sound with good song writting and good vocals,there is just not. There are many bands with good music but when the vocals start,it ruins it for me,just like Craig W. doesn't mind Saxon's music but for him its ruined when Biff starts to sing.
To me Biff is heavy metal's second best vocalist but to others Biff is irritating,it is what it is. But I just haven't heard anything that "kicks ass"....sure there are "ok" stuff but nothing that is exciting. I think bands should first focus on a good vocalist,then the song writting and I think they should up-tune thier guitars like British Steel,Blizzard Of Oz,ect....instead of down tuning them to go with the trend.
jimmyjames wrote:
I meant like Priest, Maiden, Saxon etc. Have you heard of any newer bands that are good playing that kind of metal?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No. I do not like any "new" bands in the black metal underground or the death metal underground. The scenes are ruined and have been for years now,something I never thought would happen 15 years ago but it has arrived.
Especially the last 5 or 6 years,it has become a circus of embarressment. The last new bands to come out that I like was Cult Of Daath(2000), Graven(2000) Sargeist(2000) all black metal bands.But thats about it.
No black/death metal bands that I like play in a traditional metal sense,they play in the black/death traditional sense,not heavy metal. A few bands that I like called it quits because of how lame the so called "scene" is like A.J.Harris Judas Iscariot quit in 2002 and the legendary Mutiilation from France that started in 1992 just recently quit in 2008. Its a sad joke
This scene used to be hidden and elite I remember back in 1994 around that time,there was not as many people that got into this music back then,it made up for a great scene where things were fresh and exciting,but nowadays the kiddies in thier bedrooms through the help of the internet and endless trend record labels swampped the scene and made this into a mear "joke".
I really am sick by this and is one of many reasons why I joined this forum on January 1st 2005,it was more satisfying to me to talk to fans of heavy metal vs.black metal the way it was heading.
Hey I know you're into black metal and a lot of that underground stuff but are there any bands around these days who are newish and play the sort of music you like in a more traditional metal sense?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30:59 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:25:37 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:15:50 AM
Absolutely not. There are no current bands that I've seen/heard that are grabbing my attention and have the british heavy metal sound with good song writting and good vocals,there is just not. There are many bands with good music but when the vocals start,it ruins it for me,just like Craig W. doesn't mind Saxon's music but for him its ruined when Biff starts to sing.
To me Biff is heavy metal's second best vocalist but to others Biff is irritating,it is what it is. But I just haven't heard anything that "kicks ass"....sure there are "ok" stuff but nothing that is exciting. I think bands should first focus on a good vocalist,then the song writting and I think they should up-tune thier guitars like British Steel,Blizzard Of Oz,ect....instead of down tuning them to go with the trend. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:29:48 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
I meant like Priest, Maiden, Saxon etc. Have you heard of any newer bands that are good playing that kind of metal?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No. I do not like any "new" bands in the black metal underground or the death metal underground. The scenes are ruined and have been for years now,something I never thought would happen 15 years ago but it has arrived.
Especially the last 5 or 6 years,it has become a circus of embarressment. The last new bands to come out that I like was Cult Of Daath(2000), Graven(2000) Sargeist(2000) all black metal bands.But thats about it.
No black/death metal bands that I like play in a traditional metal sense,they play in the black/death traditional sense,not heavy metal. A few bands that I like called it quits because of how lame the so called "scene" is like A.J.Harris Judas Iscariot quit in 2002 and the legendary Mutiilation from France that started in 1992 just recently quit in 2008. Its a sad joke
This scene used to be hidden and elite I remember back in 1994 around that time,there was not as many people that got into this music back then,it made up for a great scene where things were fresh and exciting,but nowadays the kiddies in thier bedrooms through the help of the internet and endless trend record labels swampped the scene and made this into a mear "joke".
I really am sick by this and is one of many reasons why I joined this forum on January 1st 2005,it was more satisfying to me to talk to fans of heavy metal vs.black metal the way it was heading.
Hey I know you're into black metal and a lot of that underground stuff but are there any bands around these days who are newish and play the sort of music you like in a more traditional metal sense?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30:59 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:25:37 PM
[ron h] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:54:51 PM
I have to admit that I'm about as stuck as stuck can be on traditional Heavy Metal. To me, It;s the greatest form of music to ever grace my ears. It's what I grew up with, it's what most of my memories are linked to, it's in my blood!! That's NOT to say there aren't good bands today to a certain degree, but they in no way, shape or form come close to the music of days gone by. Today's music has no life, no spirit, no mesmerizing drawing power to me. I may be out of the loop, so to speak, of todays music, but nothing compares to the history I have with traditional Heavy Metal. No band sticks together long enough to endear themselves to me.
I don't think Heavy Metal will ever die, but once the bands of my youth are gone, Heavy Metal will never be the same. I doubt I'll be around much longer than they will be anyway, so it won't really matter to me at that point. lol
As far as progress goes, take it, it's all yours. Call me closed minded all you want, cool, I can live with that. My heart wants what it wants!!
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:29:48 PM
I meant like Priest, Maiden, Saxon etc. Have you heard of any newer bands that are good playing that kind of metal? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:24:56 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
No. I do not like any "new" bands in the black metal underground or the death metal underground. The scenes are ruined and have been for years now,something I never thought would happen 15 years ago but it has arrived.
Especially the last 5 or 6 years,it has become a circus of embarressment. The last new bands to come out that I like was Cult Of Daath(2000), Graven(2000) Sargeist(2000) all black metal bands.But thats about it.
No black/death metal bands that I like play in a traditional metal sense,they play in the black/death traditional sense,not heavy metal. A few bands that I like called it quits because of how lame the so called "scene" is like A.J.Harris Judas Iscariot quit in 2002 and the legendary Mutiilation from France that started in 1992 just recently quit in 2008. Its a sad joke
This scene used to be hidden and elite I remember back in 1994 around that time,there was not as many people that got into this music back then,it made up for a great scene where things were fresh and exciting,but nowadays the kiddies in thier bedrooms through the help of the internet and endless trend record labels swampped the scene and made this into a mear "joke".
I really am sick by this and is one of many reasons why I joined this forum on January 1st 2005,it was more satisfying to me to talk to fans of heavy metal vs.black metal the way it was heading.
Hey I know you're into black metal and a lot of that underground stuff but are there any bands around these days who are newish and play the sort of music you like in a more traditional metal sense?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30:59 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:25:37 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:24:56 PM
No. I do not like any "new" bands in the black metal underground or the death metal underground. The scenes are ruined and have been for years now,something I never thought would happen 15 years ago but it has arrived.
Especially the last 5 or 6 years,it has become a circus of embarressment. The last new bands to come out that I like was Cult Of Daath(2000), Graven(2000) Sargeist(2000) all black metal bands.But thats about it.
No black/death metal bands that I like play in a traditional metal sense,they play in the black/death traditional sense,not heavy metal. A few bands that I like called it quits because of how lame the so called "scene" is like A.J.Harris Judas Iscariot quit in 2002 and the legendary Mutiilation from France that started in 1992 just recently quit in 2008. Its a sad joke
This scene used to be hidden and elite I remember back in 1994 around that time,there was not as many people that got into this music back then,it made up for a great scene where things were fresh and exciting,but nowadays the kiddies in thier bedrooms through the help of the internet and endless trend record labels swampped the scene and made this into a mear "joke".
I really am sick by this and is one of many reasons why I joined this forum on January 1st 2005,it was more satisfying to me to talk to fans of heavy metal vs.black metal the way it was heading.
Hey I know you're into black metal and a lot of that underground stuff but are there any bands around these days who are newish and play the sort of music you like in a more traditional metal sense?
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30:59 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:25:37 PM
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:06:55 PM
Hey I know you're into black metal and a lot of that underground stuff but are there any bands around these days who are newish and play the sort of music you like in a more traditional metal sense? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:21:26 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
(Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30:59 AM
[K2M] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:19:23 PM
No
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:21:26 AM
Sounds like Godsmack & Disturbed mixed together,it definately doesn't sound "good" to me at all but if you enjoy it,good for you.....if this is whats out there then take a shovel and crack my head with it untill I'm back in the underground where there are still a "few" good bands there...jeeze lofl jimmy!!!!
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30:59 AM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:09:45 PM
These guys are cool too and should be around for a long time. Only problem is their latest album, Crack The Skye is definately a little softer for want of a better word. Probably Mastodons equivalent to the Black album. Let's hope they don't go to shit like Metallica did. This song is off their Leviathan album from 04.
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36:36 PM
It doesn't sound like Godsmack or Disturbed at all. And I didn't say they sounded British. It's just an example of how there's still good stuff out there and new bands coming through. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:18:49 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not.
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:18:49 PM
Sounds like 'Godsmack" and Disturbed,and shit like that,not sure if you think they sound british heavy metal or not,but none the less...news flash for others...its not. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:12:20 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:12:20 PM
Here's another cool new band from the States. Baroness. They have two albums, this is off their first.
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:02:59 PM
I like it. That song is probably my favourite on the album. When I first heard it I thought the vocals were bit wrong but if you give it a few listens he sounds awesome. What I love about this album is that there are only 8 songs on it and it is under 50 minutes. That song, Snakes For The Divine is the longest at 8.24 so it's not one of those long drawn out 14 song 75 minute albums, it's easy to get into. Kind of like Metallica were doing with Ride and Master. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:15:21 AM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
Hey Jimmy that was excellent. Not that crazy about the vocalist but it gets the job done. Is the entire album this good?
jimmyjames wrote:
There is definately some awesome stuff coming out of Europe and Canada at the moment. A lot of traditionalist stuff and also a lot of stuff that approaches metal from different angles. That's definately where the future of the genre is. In saying that though there's some good stuff in the US as well, it's just harder to find amongst all the commercial crap thats coming out there. Check out this from High On Fires latest album. Fucking Awesome!!!
aceroperuano wrote:
Aw, man, there are actually a shitload of bands rthat try and many times succed at sounding like classic oldschool heavy metal bands,if they don't get media exposure, too bad, but metal is not a fucking mainstream music listeners, is for fucking metalheads!!! you want classic heavy metal sound bands?? search it!! or made your own classic metal sound band for fucksake!!probably the amount of real metalheads who enjoy oldschool metal will decrease, but real metalheads will survive, plus, I give you guys a tip: try search bands from outside!!! like Europe and South America scenes!!! most metal bands from USA, no offense, are Pantera/Machine Head/Slikpnot/Hatebreed worshippers and metalcore trendy bands, when in Europe and South America are most influenced by are Judas Priest, Saxon, Warfare, old Slayer, Celtic Frost,Razor,Voivod, Anvil, Sarcofago, Pestilence, Vio-Lence, Violent Force, Bolthrower, old Mayhem and so kind of bands, also Canadian scene is a good choice,oh and some times there are actually good USA metal band hardcore influenced by oldschool heavy metal, anyway, this are some classic heavy metal/NWOBHM influenced bands:
from Mexico:
http://www.myspace.com/voltaxband
from Canada:
http://www.myspace.com/skullfisted
from USA:
http://www.myspace.com/highspiritsrock
http://www.myspace.com/waitandprayinsane (this band sound like show no mercy Slayer)
From Peru:
http://www.myspace.com/cobraperu
From Australia(very AC/DC sound):
http://www.myspace.com/airbourne
From Sweden:
http://www.myspace.com/enforcerswe
http://www.myspace.com/helvetetsport
From Poland:
http://www.myspace.com/crystalviperofficial
There are more but I'm too lazy to put them now, maybe later.
Maybe any of these bands are great as the classics but at least they are trying to preserve classic heavy metal, and that cvounts for something, I guess.
And don't even make begin with oldschool thrash metal sound new bands, because that ones are in big ass amounts.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I hear you Budred,but I'll be as you call it"stuck in the rut" listening to all my traditinal shit,fuck these "nu-bands" and thier "nu-sounds". Its not cool to "move on" without "true heavy metal". If there are no bands that take the torch from the masters then so be it,I'll listen to the shit that I've got already,I'm not going to "move on" and I'm not saying that your telling me to,I'm just saying that I'm a traditionalist when it comes to metal/hard rock and I can not and will not stomach bands that are not "cool" lol!!!!!
Heavy metal will die out like a smoldering fire and the fire is almost out already,and its because of there are not enough bands that want to carry on the traditional heavy metal aesthetics and most importantly the british style heavy metal sound,with "quality" song writting,there are simply just not enough bands that are willing to take it that far with heavy metal. When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect...
And as you wrote: Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of course I will,but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music.
When they retire I will enjoy the metal I already have,I don't need to listen to "nu" corporate watered down commercial rock like the terrible Disturbed..."sorry spa and Victoria" HA!
Budred wrote:
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[acolyte55] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:00:19 PM
i agree some good stuff coming out of canada , got some real good local talent here in the valley ! thats why i can do a metal night every few months in a town of only 30 000 ppl!
[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:15:21 AM
Hey Jimmy that was excellent. Not that crazy about the vocalist but it gets the job done. Is the entire album this good?
There is definately some awesome stuff coming out of Europe and Canada at the moment. A lot of traditionalist stuff and also a lot of stuff that approaches metal from different angles. That's definately where the future of the genre is. In saying that though there's some good stuff in the US as well, it's just harder to find amongst all the commercial crap thats coming out there. Check out this from High On Fires latest album. Fucking Awesome!!!
aceroperuano wrote:
Aw, man, there are actually a shitload of bands rthat try and many times succed at sounding like classic oldschool heavy metal bands,if they don't get media exposure, too bad, but metal is not a fucking mainstream music listeners, is for fucking metalheads!!! you want classic heavy metal sound bands?? search it!! or made your own classic metal sound band for fucksake!!probably the amount of real metalheads who enjoy oldschool metal will decrease, but real metalheads will survive, plus, I give you guys a tip: try search bands from outside!!! like Europe and South America scenes!!! most metal bands from USA, no offense, are Pantera/Machine Head/Slikpnot/Hatebreed worshippers and metalcore trendy bands, when in Europe and South America are most influenced by are Judas Priest, Saxon, Warfare, old Slayer, Celtic Frost,Razor,Voivod, Anvil, Sarcofago, Pestilence, Vio-Lence, Violent Force, Bolthrower, old Mayhem and so kind of bands, also Canadian scene is a good choice,oh and some times there are actually good USA metal band hardcore influenced by oldschool heavy metal, anyway, this are some classic heavy metal/NWOBHM influenced bands:
from Mexico:
http://www.myspace.com/voltaxband
from Canada:
http://www.myspace.com/skullfisted
from USA:
http://www.myspace.com/highspiritsrock
http://www.myspace.com/waitandprayinsane (this band sound like show no mercy Slayer)
From Peru:
http://www.myspace.com/cobraperu
From Australia(very AC/DC sound):
http://www.myspace.com/airbourne
From Sweden:
http://www.myspace.com/enforcerswe
http://www.myspace.com/helvetetsport
From Poland:
http://www.myspace.com/crystalviperofficial
There are more but I'm too lazy to put them now, maybe later.
Maybe any of these bands are great as the classics but at least they are trying to preserve classic heavy metal, and that cvounts for something, I guess.
And don't even make begin with oldschool thrash metal sound new bands, because that ones are in big ass amounts.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I hear you Budred,but I'll be as you call it"stuck in the rut" listening to all my traditinal shit,fuck these "nu-bands" and thier "nu-sounds". Its not cool to "move on" without "true heavy metal". If there are no bands that take the torch from the masters then so be it,I'll listen to the shit that I've got already,I'm not going to "move on" and I'm not saying that your telling me to,I'm just saying that I'm a traditionalist when it comes to metal/hard rock and I can not and will not stomach bands that are not "cool" lol!!!!!
Heavy metal will die out like a smoldering fire and the fire is almost out already,and its because of there are not enough bands that want to carry on the traditional heavy metal aesthetics and most importantly the british style heavy metal sound,with "quality" song writting,there are simply just not enough bands that are willing to take it that far with heavy metal. When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect...
And as you wrote: Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of course I will,but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music.
When they retire I will enjoy the metal I already have,I don't need to listen to "nu" corporate watered down commercial rock like the terrible Disturbed..."sorry spa and Victoria" HA!
Budred wrote:
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[soccer star] Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:36:19 AM
That track sounded great until.........the vocals came in :-( a lot of bands with trad influences have some cool music but for me it goes down hill when the 'singing' starts.
There a are billion bands at the the mo who have the same vocal style and if thats what they want to do then 'great' go for it but sometimes i think people sing like that just to try and be different or because they don't have
to learn how to really sing (in the traditional sense of the word) as learning to sing is hard and can a long time to perfect.
But as i said if some bands get off on that that style then go for it but i don't really care for it and a lot of people find it too extreme to get into...
I do fear for the big metal fests of the future cus when the big guns have gone these events will attract smaller crowds cus as i said a lot of today's new metal groups(who will headline these future fests) are too 'heavy' for the bulk of trad metalheads to really.... like.
I do think the golden age of Heavy Metal has been and gone.
[jimmyjames] Monday, April 26, 2010 10:12:17 PM
There is definately some awesome stuff coming out of Europe and Canada at the moment. A lot of traditionalist stuff and also a lot of stuff that approaches metal from different angles. That's definately where the future of the genre is. In saying that though there's some good stuff in the US as well, it's just harder to find amongst all the commercial crap thats coming out there. Check out this from High On Fires latest album. Fucking Awesome!!!
Aw, man, there are actually a shitload of bands rthat try and many times succed at sounding like classic oldschool heavy metal bands,if they don't get media exposure, too bad, but metal is not a fucking mainstream music listeners, is for fucking metalheads!!! you want classic heavy metal sound bands?? search it!! or made your own classic metal sound band for fucksake!!probably the amount of real metalheads who enjoy oldschool metal will decrease, but real metalheads will survive, plus, I give you guys a tip: try search bands from outside!!! like Europe and South America scenes!!! most metal bands from USA, no offense, are Pantera/Machine Head/Slikpnot/Hatebreed worshippers and metalcore trendy bands, when in Europe and South America are most influenced by are Judas Priest, Saxon, Warfare, old Slayer, Celtic Frost,Razor,Voivod, Anvil, Sarcofago, Pestilence, Vio-Lence, Violent Force, Bolthrower, old Mayhem and so kind of bands, also Canadian scene is a good choice,oh and some times there are actually good USA metal band hardcore influenced by oldschool heavy metal, anyway, this are some classic heavy metal/NWOBHM influenced bands:
from Mexico:
http://www.myspace.com/voltaxband
from Canada:
http://www.myspace.com/skullfisted
from USA:
http://www.myspace.com/highspiritsrock
http://www.myspace.com/waitandprayinsane (this band sound like show no mercy Slayer)
From Peru:
http://www.myspace.com/cobraperu
From Australia(very AC/DC sound):
http://www.myspace.com/airbourne
From Sweden:
http://www.myspace.com/enforcerswe
http://www.myspace.com/helvetetsport
From Poland:
http://www.myspace.com/crystalviperofficial
There are more but I'm too lazy to put them now, maybe later.
Maybe any of these bands are great as the classics but at least they are trying to preserve classic heavy metal, and that cvounts for something, I guess.
And don't even make begin with oldschool thrash metal sound new bands, because that ones are in big ass amounts.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I hear you Budred,but I'll be as you call it"stuck in the rut" listening to all my traditinal shit,fuck these "nu-bands" and thier "nu-sounds". Its not cool to "move on" without "true heavy metal". If there are no bands that take the torch from the masters then so be it,I'll listen to the shit that I've got already,I'm not going to "move on" and I'm not saying that your telling me to,I'm just saying that I'm a traditionalist when it comes to metal/hard rock and I can not and will not stomach bands that are not "cool" lol!!!!!
Heavy metal will die out like a smoldering fire and the fire is almost out already,and its because of there are not enough bands that want to carry on the traditional heavy metal aesthetics and most importantly the british style heavy metal sound,with "quality" song writting,there are simply just not enough bands that are willing to take it that far with heavy metal. When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect...
And as you wrote: Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of course I will,but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music.
When they retire I will enjoy the metal I already have,I don't need to listen to "nu" corporate watered down commercial rock like the terrible Disturbed..."sorry spa and Victoria" HA!
Budred wrote:
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, April 26, 2010 1:46:38 PM
Hummm....not sure what your "rant" is here aceroperuano,I never said there wern't "any" bands in our world that are supporting british heavy metal.Heres what I just posted a few posts down...
I said :
"When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect..."
Thats what I said,and I won't be buying all those bands you listed because 90% of them in my opinion have terrible vocals,so I'll weed out the lame vocalists and come up with a band or 2 that I can stomach to listen to
[Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by aceroperuano from Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:03:50 PM) Edited at: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:47:16 PM
[aceroperuano] Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:03:50 PM
Aw, man, there are actually a shitload of bands rthat try and many times succed at sounding like classic oldschool heavy metal bands,if they don't get media exposure, too bad, but metal is not a fucking mainstream music listeners, is for fucking metalheads!!! you want classic heavy metal sound bands?? search it!! or made your own classic metal sound band for fucksake!!probably the amount of real metalheads who enjoy oldschool metal will decrease, but real metalheads will survive, plus, I give you guys a tip: try search bands from outside!!! like Europe and South America scenes!!! most metal bands from USA, no offense, are Pantera/Machine Head/Slikpnot/Hatebreed worshippers and metalcore trendy bands, when in Europe and South America are most influenced by are Judas Priest, Saxon, Warfare, old Slayer, Celtic Frost,Razor,Voivod, Anvil, Sarcofago, Pestilence, Vio-Lence, Violent Force, Bolthrower, old Mayhem and so kind of bands, also Canadian scene is a good choice,oh and some times there are actually good USA metal band hardcore influenced by oldschool heavy metal, anyway, this are some classic heavy metal/NWOBHM influenced bands:
from Mexico:
http://www.myspace.com/voltaxband
from Canada:
http://www.myspace.com/skullfisted
from USA:
http://www.myspace.com/highspiritsrock
http://www.myspace.com/waitandprayinsane (this band sound like show no mercy Slayer)
From Peru:
http://www.myspace.com/cobraperu
From Australia(very AC/DC sound):
http://www.myspace.com/airbourne
From Sweden:
http://www.myspace.com/enforcerswe
http://www.myspace.com/helvetetsport
From Poland:
http://www.myspace.com/crystalviperofficial
There are more but I'm too lazy to put them now, maybe later.
Maybe any of these bands are great as the classics but at least they are trying to preserve classic heavy metal, and that cvounts for something, I guess.
And don't even make begin with oldschool thrash metal sound new bands, because that ones are in big ass amounts. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:00:24 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I hear you Budred,but I'll be as you call it"stuck in the rut" listening to all my traditinal shit,fuck these "nu-bands" and thier "nu-sounds". Its not cool to "move on" without "true heavy metal". If there are no bands that take the torch from the masters then so be it,I'll listen to the shit that I've got already,I'm not going to "move on" and I'm not saying that your telling me to,I'm just saying that I'm a traditionalist when it comes to metal/hard rock and I can not and will not stomach bands that are not "cool" lol!!!!!
Heavy metal will die out like a smoldering fire and the fire is almost out already,and its because of there are not enough bands that want to carry on the traditional heavy metal aesthetics and most importantly the british style heavy metal sound,with "quality" song writting,there are simply just not enough bands that are willing to take it that far with heavy metal. When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect...
And as you wrote: Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of course I will,but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music.
When they retire I will enjoy the metal I already have,I don't need to listen to "nu" corporate watered down commercial rock like the terrible Disturbed..."sorry spa and Victoria" HA!
Budred wrote:
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[Budred] Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:24:51 PM
Cool is in the mind of the beholder. What one thinks is cool someone else doesn't.
It's all good. One thing no one can take from us is what we think,(unless they shoot
us in the head)(LOL). A big Peace to ya'! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:00:24 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I hear you Budred,but I'll be as you call it"stuck in the rut" listening to all my traditinal shit,fuck these "nu-bands" and thier "nu-sounds". Its not cool to "move on" without "true heavy metal". If there are no bands that take the torch from the masters then so be it,I'll listen to the shit that I've got already,I'm not going to "move on" and I'm not saying that your telling me to,I'm just saying that I'm a traditionalist when it comes to metal/hard rock and I can not and will not stomach bands that are not "cool" lol!!!!!
Heavy metal will die out like a smoldering fire and the fire is almost out already,and its because of there are not enough bands that want to carry on the traditional heavy metal aesthetics and most importantly the british style heavy metal sound,with "quality" song writting,there are simply just not enough bands that are willing to take it that far with heavy metal. When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect...
And as you wrote: Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of course I will,but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music.
When they retire I will enjoy the metal I already have,I don't need to listen to "nu" corporate watered down commercial rock like the terrible Disturbed..."sorry spa and Victoria" HA!
Budred wrote:
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:00:24 PM
I hear you Budred,but I'll be as you call it"stuck in the rut" listening to all my traditinal shit,fuck these "nu-bands" and thier "nu-sounds". Its not cool to "move on" without "true heavy metal". If there are no bands that take the torch from the masters then so be it,I'll listen to the shit that I've got already,I'm not going to "move on" and I'm not saying that your telling me to,I'm just saying that I'm a traditionalist when it comes to metal/hard rock and I can not and will not stomach bands that are not "cool" lol!!!!!
Heavy metal will die out like a smoldering fire and the fire is almost out already,and its because of there are not enough bands that want to carry on the traditional heavy metal aesthetics and most importantly the british style heavy metal sound,with "quality" song writting,there are simply just not enough bands that are willing to take it that far with heavy metal. When these godfathers of heavy metal retire I won't be buying anything new of heavy metal anymore,maybe a band or 2 but they will be far into the underground and obscurity for anyone to notice ect...
And as you wrote: Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of course I will,but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music.
When they retire I will enjoy the metal I already have,I don't need to listen to "nu" corporate watered down commercial rock like the terrible Disturbed..."sorry spa and Victoria" HA! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:53:46 PM)
Budred wrote:
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:23:04 PM
It'll survive but it won't be as good. Just like wrestling carried on without Hogan and Andre.
[Budred] Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:53:46 PM
I'm not you so I'm surely not going to argue you're opinion. I've stressed that mine only matters to me.
I think those bands mentioned are quite heavy and I've already embraced the changes to metal. I don't
like everything out there but I didn't back in the day either. Everything changes, you can choose to roll with it or you can stay stuck in a rut. The great thing is that we all have the right to decide. When I say
(you) I mean everyone not you particularly. And, quite honestly, I enjoy many styles of music now not
just metal so it's easier for me to move on. Will I miss Priest and the other bands you mentioned? Of
course I will, but I won't let it keep me from enjoying music. I'm glad you disagree sometimes, it makes
for good discussions. It also gives me the opportunity to re-examine what I post and think it through.
On this one I stand by my (opinion) as I'm sure you will yours. Take care man, I enjoy this. It's why I'm here.
Peace!
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[spapad] Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:46:34 PM
I like Disturbed J.D. I really do! lolI know you would like to put them on a cart to the center of the world, but I like them. That is one band we always agree to disagree on. lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:12:35 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch.
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:12:35 PM
I couldn't "disagree" with you more here if I tried my hardest Bured. That is absolutely "untrue". Nobody in the realm of heavy metal wants "originality" to the point of crossing over the line leaving the heavy metal ballpark.They want "heavy metal" not alternative commercialism.You don't have to like them but look at old Running Wild,old early 90's Iced Earth.....when they were released people got into them,not complaining that they "sound too British -like"...they embraced it because it reminded them of old Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Saxon..ect.... if you take that image & sound away too far,its not "heavy metal" anymore.
Disturbed,Godsmack,System Of A Down are not "heavy metal" they are an alternative hard-rock-nu commercialism,not "metal" they are far from being "metal". Trust me when Priest,Saxon,Black Sabbath,Dio,King Diamond,Exciter and even Maiden retire and there are no more bands to take thier place,you will be the first one bitching about how there are no bands taking the torch of british styled heavy metal. Watch. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:06:26 AM)
Budred wrote:
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:28:55 PM
Thats what I like about Maiden, their sound has changed some over the years but its still good metal. Progression. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by nancy101 from Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:21:53 PM)
nancy101 wrote:
Yes it can survive,if we let ourselves have an open mind about the new metal bands thats emerging. Isnt it called PROGRESS? Even in the METAL WORLD?
[nancy101] Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:21:53 PM
Yes it can survive,if we let ourselves have an open mind about the new metal bands thats emerging. Isnt it called PROGRESS? Even in the METAL WORLD?
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:11:04 PM
I like your opinion here Budred, that makes a lot of sense. You can't expect every generation of metalheads to like the same thing. Thats just being closed minded. I think good heavy metal will always be around even without the older classic bands. I'm sure new bands will come out with a more classic sound but will never be quite as good as Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. If they were even 50% as good as Maiden or Priest they would be worth listening to. I like some of the new bands although they are not as good as Priest and Maiden but still enjoy their music. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:06:26 AM) Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:26:28 PM
[Budred] Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:06:26 AM
I like J.D. so I hope he doesn't take this as a shot at him. If today's bands tried to copy
or maintain that British style of music we would probably be here complaining about how
there is no originality anymore. I think a lot of (us) older fans are resistant to change and
fail to give today's music a chance because of it. Do you remember when we were young
and the older folks were asking "WTF are you listening to?" "All they do is scream and (twang)
on those damn guitars." All the while you were wryly grinning saying to yourself "You don't
have a clue." Well the tides have changed and now were the ones asking "WTF are you listening to?"
I've always tried to not get stuck in a rut like that. I enjoy alot of today's bands. I could do without
most of the (growl) thing but no-one is going to like everything. I love bands like Disturbed, Godsmack,Slipknot, System... and others. I think as long as we have angry youth we'll have heavy music albeit
different than what were used to. I'm glad music is ever evolving. This is just my opinion. It only
matters to me. I'm not trying to change anyone, I'm just trying to provoke thought. Peace!
Edited at: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:07:44 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 24, 2010 1:10:09 PM
No it won't survive at all when Judas Priest and every other heavy metal band retire. Running Wild already retired after starting in 1984 with thier first album,I'm using this track as an example of traditional heavy metal's sound.Bands of today don't follow the same patterns of bitish heavy metal in the traditional way,they don't sound traditional,they don't look traditional and they don't have the same passion of traditional british heavy metal as bands like Priest and Saxon.
There aren't enough studs,spikes,leather ect...to have the image wich pushes the music forwards to actually write a kick ass heavy metal album. Bands like current Iced Earth...thier first 2 studio LP's reaked of traditional british styled heavy metal in the traditional way,now they sound so far progressive they have lost thier way into something over-done,way to experimental and progressive so much to the point of now they just don't sound like real heavy metal anymore.
There are no upcoming bands out there who are taking traditional british heavy metal serious enough to grab the torch of heavy metal from the masters to carry on,they are too wrapped up in a non-heavy metal image & sound to do so. Bands that have passion for old-school heavy metal should focus on thier influences of Judas Priest,old 80's Iron Maiden and Saxon to put into thier style along with the image of heavy metal,studs,spikes,chains,leather,ect...and MOST IMPORTANT...write killer songs to go along with it or it will never work just with the image.
Even if every band did this,heavy metal will still die down without Priest & Saxon around anymore but it would sure as hell help the struggling heavy metal scene thats for sure. But without taking up the traditional image & sound,the scene has NO chance at survival at all. Edited at: Saturday, April 24, 2010 1:10:41 PM
[guitardude] Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:06:02 AM
These bands you listed , came along at a time when what they brought us was original. To be great , means to be original. Yes, there are some great bands out there now, but they never achieve the greatness we have allready ( and still do) witness.
So no, metal cannot survive in it`s current form. I do not believe it will die out though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by soccer star from Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:30:28 AM)
soccer star wrote:
I was thinking about the future of heavy metal.....
In ten years time (or there about) there will be no Priest,Maiden,AC/DC,Sabbath(ozzy & Dio),Metallica,Kiss,Motley Crue,Alice Cooper etc
Can metal survive without these bands being around?? i am not sure..these are the big players in metal and they headline most of our fests around the world.
I know there are some good bands around today but for me they just don't have what the older bands have and some of the heavier bands who have done well over the last decade are too heavy
for a lot of people to get into.
Should we be worried?
[soccer star] Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:30:28 AM
I was thinking about the future of heavy metal.....
In ten years time (or there about) there will be no Priest,Maiden,AC/DC,Sabbath(ozzy & Dio),Metallica,Kiss,Motley Crue,Alice Cooper etc
Can metal survive without these bands being around?? i am not sure..these are the big players in metal and they headline most of our fests around the world.
I know there are some good bands around today but for me they just don't have what the older bands have and some of the heavier bands who have done well over the last decade are too heavy
for a lot of people to get into.
Should we be worried?
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