Bill Cosby???!?!!? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate Jello pudding! HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Anyway, the point is, Priest have never had to resort to profanity and I think that is noteworthy. The lyrics from most Priest songs are thoughtful, insightful, grand, even provocative, but never profane. I think that says something about Rob and the others. I think it is very meaningful. Unfortunately, when Tim Owens joined the Band, they went for a more "modern" approach and I think it hurt them far more than helped. Even the music itself was not Priest-like, to me. Not as melodic. Very crunchy and raw. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ronhartsell from Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:18:24 PM)

		ronhartsell wrote:
		OK Bill Cosby... Just teasing you Deep Freeze... There aren't too many Metal bands out there that don't curse...but that is something that has never crossed my mind when listening to Priest...they don't have to curse to bring the house down...excellent point DF...      Deep Freeze wrote:   Yes, welcome indeed Chopper! Well 'Child, I must say that one of the very best things about Priest music is that there is no profanity. Apart from the "Ripper" years, Priest simply takes the "high road" when it comes to song writing and I applaud them for it. Such a needless, mindless way to communicate! It is bad enough that one chooses to use obscene language as a means of expression but when a "song writer" has to use it for posterity I find it appalling. Unfortunately, that is  the way it is with most of today's "music". It seems that the only way they can write a song is if it has a  profanity laced verse or ten in it. So sad. So lame. disgusting.      devils_child wrote:    I'm feelin' for you Freeze....listening to that tripe.  If it was me i would have flung that CD out the window ages ago, then claimed to know nothing about its whereabouts.  But i guess when your married you gotta make sacrifices. HA!  Ah yes, let's put profanity in our music so it appeals to all the disenchanted youth. So lame. I hope to God that the kids hearing that stuff don't think its acceptable to talk to a woman... in fact anyone like that. It's terrible.      Deep Freeze wrote:   HA!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! I guess I use Kid Rock as an example because the Princess recently bought his "new" CD and plays it constantly. She thinks it is just great. Well, I have had the unfortunate opportunity to hear many of the tracks and it is really sad. He steals music from past artists and writes nonsense and people buy it up. There is one track where he decalres to an ex-girlfriend that she has made a terrible mistake in hurting him because he is a "song writer" and he is going to "get" her with his "music".  The track then becomes some half-assed country-like tune with an enormous amount of babble. Nothing substantial to it at all. I guess it all comes down to selling albums. I have noticed that he declares this very thing in MANY of his "songs". He is GREAT because he SELLS albums, followed by a barage of profanity that apparently proves he is "cool" and an "artist".      devils_child wrote:   LMFAO.... Kid Rock... I hear you on all of what you just posted there. Now there's no wondering why this 20 year old chick listens to music that was made before she was born... Because look at the modern alternatives. The only stuff that i have taken any intrest in is *surprise* Modern British Rock music... that's because they write and actually perform their own stuff.  And i can't take anymore of this "remixing" and "sampling" of older tracks which as you said new "artists" re-package as their own. It has nothing to do with paying tribute to the original writers, but more or less them just trying to make a buck of someone elses hard work.      Deep Freeze wrote:   I think you have "hit the nail on the head", as it were. Judas Priest remain relevant after almost 40 years of making music in a genre that has been declared countless times AND does not enjoy nearly the following it did during its "heyday". Music today is very limited. There are many very talented musicians but there are far more "entertainers". Unfortunately, most of the latter try to portray themselves as "musicians" or "writers", all very disingenuously I might add. I hate to pound on one guy but, take Kid Rock as an example. He claims, quite boisterously, to be a "song writer". Somehow, he believes that if he records or plays someone else's written music, changes a stanza and then  "writes" a few lyrics, he is a "musician". This seems to be the way many of the more popular entertainers think. The art of actual song writing is lost. Not by all, mind you! there are still many very talented writers! Bands like Priest are who they are because they are truly talented. I am not saying that it takes NO talent to copy someone else's work and make millions selling it as your own. Far from it. I think it is incredibly bright of a guy with VERY limited talent to take advantage of a buying public that simply has NO clue.