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Hehehe HRMG well said!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:59:50 PM)| |  | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | |  Couldn't agree more! And exaclty why is KK given all the credit for Priest being blues based? Hmmmm? It's a well known fact that GLENN TIPTON played in blues bands and then played progressive blues prior to joining Priest. So I highly doubt that the blues influence will now somehow be lost. But then again, what do I know about Judas Priest ? A LOT.
I NEVER said they would sound the same without KK. That is ridiculous to think that the sound will be the same. Everyone that knows me knows how much Priest means to me. This is a blow that I'm finding hard to recover from. Yet I am choosing to stand by Priest, just as I did when Rob left. I will not bitch about the new sound until I hear it.
Funny, she was left about as many times now as MG! 
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | The problem I see is that even your sentence structure is atrocious. Yes, I know Wagner and even know how to pronounce it. Accusing anyone of not having as "trained ears" as yours is truly the "jest" in that sentiment.
Learn to write properly. Better yet, learn that there are many who simply disagree with what you put forth as "truth" know that it is nothing of the kind. I read all your posts. They are nothing more than pure opinion and conjecture mixed with barbs to those who do not seem to share your opinion. K.K. has roots in blues. BIG surprise there. He said so in many an interview that we all know. Your calling someone a "dufus" [sic] is "not an attack on someone's character?" Hmmm... curious.
You advocate learning? So learn. Those who are equally as educated in all things "Priest" have voiced an opinion in much more eloquent terms than yours.
(Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:00:42 PM)
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| The problem with this e-mailing is how much iflection and intent gets lost and mis-construed. None of what I said was meant to be taken personally, and was said somewhat in jest. It was about a specific subject; and I was only trying to get you to dig deeper into the music you love so much. You do have ears that are trained, you just don't realize it; there are concrete reasons why certain things sound better, and I was just trying to illuminate that. Not putting myself above anyone else, but since when is knowledge a bad thing? Beavis and Butthead are great but nothing to aspire to, and please don't think that is who I am comparing you to! If I offended. then great, but it wasn't an attack on anyone's character. |
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| [guidogodoy] Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20:15 PM | |
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Haaa! Is this a "she" who is "e-mailing" (lol) a public forum with "iflection? [sic]" Good Lord! That explains it all!
Train your ears, people! You long-timers know nothing about KK or Priest!! This she/male will explain all that we have either blindly accepted or stupidly rejected.
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Couldn't agree more! And exaclty why is KK given all the credit for Priest being blues based? Hmmmm? It's a well known fact that GLENN TIPTON played in blues bands and then played progressive blues prior to joining Priest. So I highly doubt that the blues influence will now somehow be lost. But then again, what do I know about Judas Priest ? A LOT.
I NEVER said they would sound the same without KK. That is ridiculous to think that the sound will be the same. Everyone that knows me knows how much Priest means to me. This is a blow that I'm finding hard to recover from. Yet I am choosing to stand by Priest, just as I did when Rob left. I will not bitch about the new sound until I hear it.
Funny, she was left about as many times now as MG!
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The problem I see is that even your sentence structure is atrocious. Yes, I know Wagner and even know how to pronounce it. Accusing anyone of not having as "trained ears" as yours is truly the "jest" in that sentiment.
Learn to write properly. Better yet, learn that there are many who simply disagree with what you put forth as "truth" know that it is nothing of the kind. I read all your posts. They are nothing more than pure opinion and conjecture mixed with barbs to those who do not seem to share your opinion. K.K. has roots in blues. BIG surprise there. He said so in many an interview that we all know. Your calling someone a "dufus" [sic] is "not an attack on someone's character?" Hmmm... curious.
You advocate learning? So learn. Those who are equally as educated in all things "Priest" have voiced an opinion in much more eloquent terms than yours.
(Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:00:42 PM)
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| The problem with this e-mailing is how much iflection and intent gets lost and mis-construed. None of what I said was meant to be taken personally, and was said somewhat in jest. It was about a specific subject; and I was only trying to get you to dig deeper into the music you love so much. You do have ears that are trained, you just don't realize it; there are concrete reasons why certain things sound better, and I was just trying to illuminate that. Not putting myself above anyone else, but since when is knowledge a bad thing? Beavis and Butthead are great but nothing to aspire to, and please don't think that is who I am comparing you to! If I offended. then great, but it wasn't an attack on anyone's character. |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, April 29, 2011 6:59:50 PM | |
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Couldn't agree more! And exaclty why is KK given all the credit for Priest being blues based? Hmmmm? It's a well known fact that GLENN TIPTON played in blues bands and then played progressive blues prior to joining Priest. So I highly doubt that the blues influence will now somehow be lost. But then again, what do I know about Judas Priest ? A LOT.
I NEVER said they would sound the same without KK. That is ridiculous to think that the sound will be the same. Everyone that knows me knows how much Priest means to me. This is a blow that I'm finding hard to recover from. Yet I am choosing to stand by Priest, just as I did when Rob left. I will not bitch about the new sound until I hear it.
Funny, she was left about as many times now as MG!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:36:30 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | The problem I see is that even your sentence structure is atrocious. Yes, I know Wagner and even know how to pronounce it. Accusing anyone of not having as "trained ears" as yours is truly the "jest" in that sentiment.
Learn to write properly. Better yet, learn that there are many who simply disagree with what you put forth as "truth" know that it is nothing of the kind. I read all your posts. They are nothing more than pure opinion and conjecture mixed with barbs to those who do not seem to share your opinion. K.K. has roots in blues. BIG surprise there. He said so in many an interview that we all know. Your calling someone a "dufus" [sic] is "not an attack on someone's character?" Hmmm... curious.
You advocate learning? So learn. Those who are equally as educated in all things "Priest" have voiced an opinion in much more eloquent terms than yours.
(Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:00:42 PM)
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| The problem with this e-mailing is how much iflection and intent gets lost and mis-construed. None of what I said was meant to be taken personally, and was said somewhat in jest. It was about a specific subject; and I was only trying to get you to dig deeper into the music you love so much. You do have ears that are trained, you just don't realize it; there are concrete reasons why certain things sound better, and I was just trying to illuminate that. Not putting myself above anyone else, but since when is knowledge a bad thing? Beavis and Butthead are great but nothing to aspire to, and please don't think that is who I am comparing you to! If I offended. then great, but it wasn't an attack on anyone's character. |
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The problem I see is that even your sentence structure is atrocious. Yes, I know Wagner and even know how to pronounce it. Accusing anyone of not having as "trained ears" as yours is truly the "jest" in that sentiment.
Learn to write properly. Better yet, learn that there are many who simply disagree with what you put forth as "truth" know that it is nothing of the kind. I read all your posts. They are nothing more than pure opinion and conjecture mixed with barbs to those who do not seem to share your opinion. K.K. has roots in blues. BIG surprise there. He said so in many an interview that we all know. Your calling someone a "dufus" [sic] is "not an attack on someone's character?" Hmmm... curious.
You advocate learning? So learn. Those who are equally as educated in all things "Priest" have voiced an opinion in much more eloquent terms than yours.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:00:42 PM)
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| [spapad] Friday, April 29, 2011 6:16:27 PM | |
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That is good.
If that is true, don't belittle others for what they feel. Dufus? Why? Was not required. Good luck to you icomeroundnow.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:00:42 PM)
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| [icomearoundnow] Friday, April 29, 2011 6:00:42 PM | |
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| The problem with this e-mailing is how much iflection and intent gets lost and mis-construed. None of what I said was meant to be taken personally, and was said somewhat in jest. It was about a specific subject; and I was only trying to get you to dig deeper into the music you love so much. You do have ears that are trained, you just don't realize it; there are concrete reasons why certain things sound better, and I was just trying to illuminate that. Not putting myself above anyone else, but since when is knowledge a bad thing? Beavis and Butthead are great but nothing to aspire to, and please don't think that is who I am comparing you to! If I offended. then great, but it wasn't an attack on anyone's character. |
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I won't. He seemed like a complete tool trying too hard to lecture to a group of die-hard Priest fans.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 29, 2011 4:51:09 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Bye, icomeroundherenow. We shall miss you.
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| Honestly, this is my last post on this, really I have to get back to my life...no kidding this got to me a lot more than even I could have thought. So, the truth is I saw KK follow both Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach last year, and KKs playing has at least 3 more levels of depth than either of those two guys. KK started as a blues player, as did Priest, and this element is always there no matter how metal they get. (I was going to say Wagnerian, but I don't want to sound 'superior'). This is very obvious and if you do not hear it then you have untrained ears, and/or are following a company line that, in my opinion (yes this would be conjecture) insults the fans. Richie Faulkner is a very, very good player, but he doesn't have a deep enough sound for Priest, and isn't gifted enough to fake it. Sorry that is the truth you can ignore it if you want. Going to this show would be like agony to someone like me who even to this day marvels at Priest's run of metal genius. On a lighter note, this is the perfect time for them to continue as a 4 piece and finally do Ian Hill's jazz fusion ensemble "Requum for the Mad Hatter." Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:30:19 PM Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:34:24 PM Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:35:51 PM |
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Bye, icomeroundherenow. We shall miss you.
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| Honestly, this is my last post on this, really I have to get back to my life...no kidding this got to me a lot more than even I could have thought. So, the truth is I saw KK follow both Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach last year, and KKs playing has at least 3 more levels of depth than either of those two guys. KK started as a blues player, as did Priest, and this element is always there no matter how metal they get. (I was going to say Wagnerian, but I don't want to sound 'superior'). This is very obvious and if you do not hear it then you have untrained ears, and/or are following a company line that, in my opinion (yes this would be conjecture) insults the fans. Richie Faulkner is a very, very good player, but he doesn't have a deep enough sound for Priest, and isn't gifted enough to fake it. Sorry that is the truth you can ignore it if you want. Going to this show would be like agony to someone like me who even to this day marvels at Priest's run of metal genius. On a lighter note, this is the perfect time for them to continue as a 4 piece and finally do Ian Hill's jazz fusion ensemble "Requum for the Mad Hatter." Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:30:19 PM Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:34:24 PM Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:35:51 PM |
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| [Rik_] Friday, April 29, 2011 3:04:33 AM | |
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Most music listeners have untrained ears I'd have thought. I for one wouldn't know how many "levels of depth" any guitar player has....
I either like what they are playing or I don't
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| [mullerapa] Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:42:20 PM | |
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I just wnated to know if Judas is considering to come to Venezuela in their farewell tour. Thanks
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:39:07 PM | |
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Well looks like there is no reason for you to continue to have interests in what Rob,Glenn,Ian and Scott are doing these days. Good for you man,get on with your life,K.K. is gone and hes not coming back. Judas Priest isn't "Judas Priest" to you anymore,so be it. We all understand. But I along with selective fans don't care about K.K.'s signature guitar sound that made up Priest,we just want to hear a heavy metal album from Rob,Glenn,Ian and Scott and to me it should still be titled Judas Priest. For me it was much worse when the voice of Priest left the band. Good luck to you.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:29:38 PM)| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | Honestly, this is my last post on this, really I have to get back to my life...no kidding this got to me a lot more than even I could have thought. So, the truth is I saw KK follow both Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach last year, and KKs playing has at least 3 more levels of depth than either of those two guys. KK started as a blues player, as did Priest, and this element is always there no matter how metal they get. (I was going to say Wagnerian, but I don't want to sound 'superior'). This is very obvious and if you do not hear it then you have untrained ears, and/or are following a company line that, in my opinion (yes this would be conjecture) insults the fans. Richie Faulkner is a very, very good player, but he doesn't have a deep enough sound for Priest, and isn't gifted enough to fake it. Sorry that is the truth you can ignore it if you want. Going to this show would be like agony to someone like me who even to this day marvels at Priest's run of metal genius. On a lighter note, this is the perfect time for them to continue as a 4 piece and finally do Ian Hill's jazz fusion ensemble "Requum for the Mad Hatter." Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:30:19 PM Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:34:24 PM
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Honestly, this is my last post on this, really I have to get back to my life...no kidding this got to me a lot more than even I could have thought. So, the truth is I saw KK follow both Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach last year, and KKs playing has at least 3 more levels of depth than either of those two guys. KK started as a blues player, as did Priest, and this element is always there no matter how metal they get. (I was going to say Wagnerian, but I don't want to sound 'superior'). This is very obvious and if you do not hear it then you have untrained ears, and/or are following a company line that, in my opinion (yes this would be conjecture) insults the fans. Richie Faulkner is a very, very good player, but he doesn't have a deep enough sound for Priest, and isn't gifted enough to fake it. Sorry that is the truth you can ignore it if you want. Going to this show would be like agony to someone like me who even to this day marvels at Priest's run of metal genius. On a lighter note, this is the perfect time for them to continue as a 4 piece and finally do Ian Hill's jazz fusion ensemble "Requum for the Mad Hatter." Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:30:19 PM Edited at: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:34:24 PM
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:21:42 PM | |
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Well K.K.'s Nostradamus proves he is into "metal" these days right? Psssfft. Hostile No Salvation sounds like a trendy retro Panteraish mass produced "whatever is popular at the time" kind of band and song,it spanks of unoriginality and sounds like 387 other bands on the scene right now where you can't tell the difference,this is why he produced it because the young trendy fans will buy anything.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by BloodStained from Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:51:44 PM)| | | BloodStained wrote: | | I am sooooooo gutted about KK. :( its not gonna be the same without him. Im also sick of people saying "he must of lost interest in metal" if thats true than he wouldnt of produced Hostile with ian hills son in the band. go onto youtube ant type in hostile no salvation
i really hope he changes his mind and comes back! pleeeeeaaaase kk????
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| [BloodStained] Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:51:44 PM | |
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I am sooooooo gutted about KK. :( its not gonna be the same without him. Im also sick of people saying "he must of lost interest in metal" if thats true than he wouldnt of produced Hostile with ian hills son in the band. go onto youtube ant type in hostile no salvation
i really hope he changes his mind and comes back! pleeeeeaaaase kk????
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| [spapad] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:24:30 PM | |
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Conjecture vs. the truth. I'm glad you have judges to tell you the difference.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:31:30 PM)| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | "Spapad' who are you supposed to be anyway? An employee for JP Inc. is what you sound like. "Pseudo superiority?'' I backed everything I said with the truth, and being in a popularity contest isn't high on my priority list.
'Bitter' Bitter??? did you really say that? Of course I'm bitter and I have to get back to my very busy life, this has upset me quite a bit, I am not embarrassed to say that; this being the 2nd time makes it all the more palpable. A few last things: Love Rob's Christmas albums, even KK would pay to see Priest if they got Eddie Van Halen, Ian Hill could play like Steve Harris if he chose (can you imagine how Priest would sound without him?) and enjoy yourselves at the concerts guys, yes I will be crying at home.
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| [PhillipMousseau] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:14:03 PM | |
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It is sad that KK won't be performing but i believe you have to respect the fact that he was in the band for over forty years i'm just glad i got a chance to see the band three times in my short life, with him perfromin and am looking forward to seeing them at least once more with or without Mr. Downing forever a Metal God.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:10:15 PM | |
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I completely understand and I don't blame any fan for feeling the way that you do. I'm hoping for the best is all I can say. I know it won't be the same and I will most definitely miss KK dearly. We all will. No one wants this and it's hard on everyone. But those of us that are still going are going to recognize the other 4 members of the band. I'm just not ready to walk away yet, not without one last thank you.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalmaz from Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:29:05 AM)| | | metalmaz wrote: | | That is a great comment and clearly from the heart. From my point of view I wouldn't want to see Priest without KK. He's been there from the beginning and he and Glenn are responsible for that distinct sound that a hired hand just wouldn't be able to create. I think they will have lost their soul and his absence will be massivly apparent on stage.
It reminds me of when Adrian Smith left Maiden. No Prayer For the Dying and to a lesser extent Fear Of The Dark are weak by Maiden's standards and I think Adrian's departure was almost as significant as Bruce''s and if he hadn't returned when Bruce had, Maiden would not be where they are now.
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| [icomearoundnow] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:31:30 PM | |
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"Spapad' who are you supposed to be anyway? An employee for JP Inc. is what you sound like. "Pseudo superiority?'' I backed everything I said with the truth, and being in a popularity contest isn't high on my priority list.
'Bitter' Bitter??? did you really say that? Of course I'm bitter and I have to get back to my very busy life, this has upset me quite a bit, I am not embarrassed to say that; this being the 2nd time makes it all the more palpable. A few last things: Love Rob's Christmas albums, even KK would pay to see Priest if they got Eddie Van Halen, Ian Hill could play like Steve Harris if he chose (can you imagine how Priest would sound without him?) and enjoy yourselves at the concerts guys, yes I will be crying at home.
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| Is it really "Judas Priest" without KK? In my book no. But this is the farewell tour - take what you can get. They are going to release an album next year and may play a few dates but Tipton said on his website that they intend this to be the last major tour. These major tours are planned well ahead of time and I think when the planning for THIS tour started KK was still on board. I think KK came to the conclusion that he couldn't do the tour and resigned at the end of last year. Instead of cancelling their tour plans they got a replacement guitar player. I would be a lot more upset if this were 1984 or 1986 than 2011. In a perfect world KK would be there to see this thing to the end but he isn't. KK even stated on his site that if you're a fan you should still go and support Priest - it will still be a good show. Is it going to "Judas Priest" in their prime? No but I'll still enjoy seeing Tipton play his solo in Electric Eye... |
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I am going to the farewell tour to thank Judas Priest for their music, live shows, influence on my life and the inspiration from within. It is a celebration to say goodbye to our heavy metal gods and what they mean to us. Ive seen them over 35 times since 1981, they deliver, are first rate class, total showmanship, and always bring a smile to this fan's face. Ill be there to show my appreciation of my favorite band of all time. Thanks Judas for the great memories and being such a big part of my life, growing up and 30 years later... MpleSyrp
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:33:19 PM | |
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When Adrain Smith left Maiden Steve Harris,Dave Murray and Bruce Dickinson wrote the shitty songs on No prayer and Fear Of The Dark,they "could" of been great albums....
look at the track "Tail Gunner" and Mother Russia....if the whole album would of been made up with tracks like this it could of been great....look at "Be Quick Or Be Dead"....thats the only song I think is brilliant from Fear Of The Dark as I hate the rest of the album but its not that Adrian left,it is that they wrote shit songs.
If Rob and Glenn write shit songs on the new album it will be lame,but if they write a brillaint album all the way through then I think it will make some people rethink thier opinions of the future of the band.
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That is a great comment and clearly from the heart. From my point of view I wouldn't want to see Priest without KK. He's been there from the beginning and he and Glenn are responsible for that distinct sound that a hired hand just wouldn't be able to create. I think they will have lost their soul and his absence will be massivly apparent on stage.
It reminds me of when Adrian Smith left Maiden. No Prayer For the Dying and to a lesser extent Fear Of The Dark are weak by Maiden's standards and I think Adrian's departure was almost as significant as Bruce''s and if he hadn't returned when Bruce had, Maiden would not be where they are now.
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Really? But you'd give in if Eddie Van Halen was playing? What does that say about YOU? I am going to the farewell tour to say THANK YOU and goodbye to my favorite band OF ALL TIME! If KK chooses not to be a part of it, then that is HIS choice. Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott deserve to be recognized for everything they have given the world of music. Don't go to the show, it'll leave more front row seats for the rest of us that want to THANK PRIEST for all they have given us!!
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| [metalmaz] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:29:05 AM | |
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That is a great comment and clearly from the heart. From my point of view I wouldn't want to see Priest without KK. He's been there from the beginning and he and Glenn are responsible for that distinct sound that a hired hand just wouldn't be able to create. I think they will have lost their soul and his absence will be massivly apparent on stage.
It reminds me of when Adrian Smith left Maiden. No Prayer For the Dying and to a lesser extent Fear Of The Dark are weak by Maiden's standards and I think Adrian's departure was almost as significant as Bruce''s and if he hadn't returned when Bruce had, Maiden would not be where they are now.
I would be happier remembering Priest with KK
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:33:16 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Really? But you'd give in if Eddie Van Halen was playing? What does that say about YOU? I am going to the farewell tour to say THANK YOU and goodbye to my favorite band OF ALL TIME! If KK chooses not to be a part of it, then that is HIS choice. Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott deserve to be recognized for everything they have given the world of music. Don't go to the show, it'll leave more front row seats for the rest of us that want to THANK PRIEST for all they have given us!!
| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | So is this the Farewell Tour or what? Talk of a new album, that probably means a new tour. Rob taking 50%?? LOL this can't be true. KK is probably upset Rob promotes himself so much at the expense of Priest. And I will say right now that anytime any of these guys has strayed from the originals, all that has resulted is a 3rd rate version of Priest. I liked the first Fight album's direction and it should have been a Priest album, even more than Painkiller, which was actually a step backward, writing wise. Demolition I became fond of, just because of its pure tenacity. But these guys should never, ever split, it's like The Jacksons going out with a replacement, can't be done. The only way I would go to see this tour is if they got Eddie Van Halen as a guest. These posts that are giving in to this show a real lack of Priest acumen.
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| [thekissofjudas] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:07:09 AM | |
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| We owe long years of joy, many hours of delight and part of our mind and thoughs have been influenced by the fantasies and emotions they have planted on us, Every one of us owes a little of happiness in his/her life and they owe not only they money they have collected and are totally entitle to enjoy without remorses, but the gratification of being supported, loved and clapped by their true talents and endurance. Man, they have put the foundation of Heavy Metal, don´t you think we have debt with them? And them are not part of our life? |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:33:20 AM | |
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Just another person believing that they are "entitled" to get whatever it is they want..... We aren't intimidated on this board and we are all intelligent people. Calling us stupid for supporting our favorite band and acting superior to everyone....yeah, great way to start off. That may work where they come from, but it most definitely doesn't work around here!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:31:05 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | Ya know, you can be bitter all you want and pontificate from your throne of psuedo superiority all you like. Your narrow minded and obviously not willing to listen to anyone who will not speak negatively about the band at this time. I really don't care, but.........heh...........way to make an impression. Ehem.
| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | | Right, well it ain't gonna be Priest. You're being duped, and if you can't hear a huge gap between Richie Faulkner and KK Downing, you are a dufus. Priest has a very deep blues influence, a lot of miles on their sound, and it's priceless, you can't replace KK, or any of them. You think Rob or Glenn would pay to see Led Zeppelin without Robert or Jimmy? I am hoping KK will come around by the time they hit the U.S, if not, I saw their last tour, and that was a great way to say good bye. |
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they owe us nothing, we owe them nothing. at this stage its just that simple.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:54:12 PM)| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | Well..I was half joking, but what do you 'owe' those guys anyway? They owe us, the people who pay to see them. That's what's wrong with our culture now; it used to be that bands had more integrity and viewed the audience as the bosses. Now it's about putting some guy who rides a motorbike around on stage on a pedestal and letting their whims dictate what we will put up with. I don't think anyone can love Priest more than me; believe me I have gotten countless hours of enjoyment out of watching//listening to them; they are the one band that can blow both Slayer and Kiss off the stage. And yes I have taken some morsels of sage wisdom from their music and used it in my life, which we all do in any situation. Doesn't mean I 'owe' them anything. Just like every ohter dufus fan you got it all twisted around. Edited at: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:03:03 PM
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| [spapad] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:31:05 PM | |
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Ya know, you can be bitter all you want and pontificate from your throne of psuedo superiority all you like. Your narrow minded and obviously not willing to listen to anyone who will not speak negatively about the band at this time. I really don't care, but.........heh...........way to make an impression. Ehem.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:45:50 PM)| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | | Right, well it ain't gonna be Priest. You're being duped, and if you can't hear a huge gap between Richie Faulkner and KK Downing, you are a dufus. Priest has a very deep blues influence, a lot of miles on their sound, and it's priceless, you can't replace KK, or any of them. You think Rob or Glenn would pay to see Led Zeppelin without Robert or Jimmy? I am hoping KK will come around by the time they hit the U.S, if not, I saw their last tour, and that was a great way to say good bye. |
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| [icomearoundnow] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:45:50 PM | |
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| Right, well it ain't gonna be Priest. You're being duped, and if you can't hear a huge gap between Richie Faulkner and KK Downing, you are a dufus. Priest has a very deep blues influence, a lot of miles on their sound, and it's priceless, you can't replace KK, or any of them. You think Rob or Glenn would pay to see Led Zeppelin without Robert or Jimmy? I am hoping KK will come around by the time they hit the U.S, if not, I saw their last tour, and that was a great way to say good bye. |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:19:51 PM | |
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So now I'm a "doofus fan"???? Because I want to show my appreciation to the band that I love? Well, you can cry at home because KK won't go on while I enjoy the show. They don't work for me and they don't owe me anything, just as I don't own them and I don't owe them anything. That is where YOU have it twisted! They are musicians that are expressing themselves and you get enjoyment out of it. They don't "owe" you anything, you are free to walk away. I am free to decide what I like and what I don't like. I stopped supporting Iron Maiden when they started sucking. I will not bitch about the new line-up until I HEAR it! I'm sick of people bitching about something they haven't heard yet. I will miss KK and it will not be the same. But I'm going anyway and that doesn't make me a "doofus", that makes me a fan of Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott. You have the right to decide what to do just as I have the right to decide what I will do, without being called names!
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| Well..I was half joking, but what do you 'owe' those guys anyway? They owe us, the people who pay to see them. That's what's wrong with our culture now; it used to be that bands had more integrity and viewed the audience as the bosses. Now it's about putting some guy who rides a motorbike around on stage on a pedestal and letting their whims dictate what we will put up with. I don't think anyone can love Priest more than me; believe me I have gotten countless hours of enjoyment out of watching//listening to them; they are the one band that can blow both Slayer and Kiss off the stage. And yes I have taken some morsels of sage wisdom from their music and used it in my life, which we all do in any situation. Doesn't mean I 'owe' them anything. Just like every ohter dufus fan you got it all twisted around. Edited at: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:03:03 PM Edited at: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:04:06 PM |
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Well..I was half joking, but what do you 'owe' those guys anyway? They owe us, the people who pay to see them. That's what's wrong with our culture now; it used to be that bands had more integrity and viewed the audience as the bosses. Now it's about putting some guy who rides a motorbike around on stage on a pedestal and letting their whims dictate what we will put up with. I don't think anyone can love Priest more than me; believe me I have gotten countless hours of enjoyment out of watching//listening to them; they are the one band that can blow both Slayer and Kiss off the stage. And yes I have taken some morsels of sage wisdom from their music and used it in my life, which we all do in any situation. Doesn't mean I 'owe' them anything. Just like every ohter dufus fan you got it all twisted around. Edited at: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:03:03 PM
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:33:16 PM | |
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Really? But you'd give in if Eddie Van Halen was playing? What does that say about YOU? I am going to the farewell tour to say THANK YOU and goodbye to my favorite band OF ALL TIME! If KK chooses not to be a part of it, then that is HIS choice. Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott deserve to be recognized for everything they have given the world of music. Don't go to the show, it'll leave more front row seats for the rest of us that want to THANK PRIEST for all they have given us!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icomearoundnow from Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:29:19 PM)| | | icomearoundnow wrote: | | So is this the Farewell Tour or what? Talk of a new album, that probably means a new tour. Rob taking 50%?? LOL this can't be true. KK is probably upset Rob promotes himself so much at the expense of Priest. And I will say right now that anytime any of these guys has strayed from the originals, all that has resulted is a 3rd rate version of Priest. I liked the first Fight album's direction and it should have been a Priest album, even more than Painkiller, which was actually a step backward, writing wise. Demolition I became fond of, just because of its pure tenacity. But these guys should never, ever split, it's like The Jacksons going out with a replacement, can't be done. The only way I would go to see this tour is if they got Eddie Van Halen as a guest. These posts that are giving in to this show a real lack of Priest acumen.
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So is this the Farewell Tour or what? Talk of a new album, that probably means a new tour. Rob taking 50%?? LOL this can't be true. KK is probably upset Rob promotes himself so much at the expense of Priest. And I will say right now that anytime any of these guys has strayed from the originals, all that has resulted is a 3rd rate version of Priest. I liked the first Fight album's direction and it should have been a Priest album, even more than Painkiller, which was actually a step backward, writing wise. Demolition I became fond of, just because of its pure tenacity. But these guys should never, ever split, it's like The Jacksons going out with a replacement, can't be done. The only way I would go to see this tour is if they got Eddie Van Halen as a guest. These posts that are giving in to this show a real lack of Priest acumen.
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| [thekissofjudas] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:57:19 AM | |
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I think that this resembles the Beatles split, with a lot of rumours, victims, guilty guys and the rest. The best is to let it go, maybe we would never will capable of knowing the whole story but the 90 per cent of the band is comfortable with the tour, the music and the money question. But there would be a post tour album or something? Would KK return for a final farewell in England ? Magic... Nostradamus would tell
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:38:45 AM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I don't believe that Rob is taking 50%. No way in hell the other 4 guys agreed to that!!! And secondly, if that were true, which I completely doubt, then why is KK the only one pissed off to the point of quitting? Obviously Glenn and Rob still have a good working relationship and I highly doubt that would be the case if this were true. Ian wants to continue and so does Scott. Why does everyone want to blame Rob for this?
And one more thing, IAN HILL is also a founding member of Judas Priest! Why is everyone forgetting that? We wouldn't have Rob in the band if it weren't for Ian Hill dating Rob's sister Sue and suggesting to Ian that they give Rob on audition. So let's give credit where credit is due! This is not KK's band, this is a group of 5 members that don't always agree on everything. KK didn't want to compromise or felt he couldn't compromise when it came to the direction the band was going in. Obviously, the other 4 members of the band DO AGREE. I believe they are agruing about the new album and the direction Glenn and Rob want to go with it. We'll see when it comes out.
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What a terrible terrible shame. This is the guy who founded the band. Strong rumour has it that it was finance related. Rob has allegedly insisted that he took 50 % of the band's income since his return (ego.....) and this caused huge fractions within the group.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:38:45 AM | |
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I don't believe that Rob is taking 50%. No way in hell the other 4 guys agreed to that!!! And secondly, if that were true, which I completely doubt, then why is KK the only one pissed off to the point of quitting? Obviously Glenn and Rob still have a good working relationship and I highly doubt that would be the case if this were true. Ian wants to continue and so does Scott. Why does everyone want to blame Rob for this?
And one more thing, IAN HILL is also a founding member of Judas Priest! Why is everyone forgetting that? We wouldn't have Rob in the band if it weren't for Ian Hill dating Rob's sister Sue and suggesting to Ian that they give Rob on audition. So let's give credit where credit is due! This is not KK's band, this is a group of 5 members that don't always agree on everything. KK didn't want to compromise or felt he couldn't compromise when it came to the direction the band was going in. Obviously, the other 4 members of the band DO AGREE. I believe they are agruing about the new album and the direction Glenn and Rob want to go with it. We'll see when it comes out.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalmaz from Monday, April 25, 2011 9:25:17 AM)| | | metalmaz wrote: | |
What a terrible terrible shame. This is the guy who founded the band. Strong rumour has it that it was finance related. Rob has allegedly insisted that he took 50 % of the band's income since his return (ego.....) and this caused huge fractions within the group.
I am very very skeptical about it being a health matter. Or if it is, ill helath has been caused by the strife. It must be very very very bitter departure and KK would not take such drastic action lightly. . |
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| [thekissofjudas] Monday, April 25, 2011 10:49:50 PM | |
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| [tasnam1] Monday, April 25, 2011 10:30:25 PM | |
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Thanks for the support Spapad.
I guess I just feel that If I don't see them this time, it will be the last time!!!
A new guitarist may breath new life after all...I keep coming back to Scott Travis and Painkiller.
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| [spapad] Monday, April 25, 2011 10:21:28 PM | |
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The way the dates are working out, I don't think JP will start the tour of U.S. until Jan of next year. They always take the hollidays off, as they should. One of the many things we shall wait and see.
Taz, nice post. About how I felt about it to. I tried to restrain myself from posting through the pissed off phase.
All true Priest fans will get there eventually.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Monday, April 25, 2011 8:34:21 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | Yes I agree Bev, I enjoyed reading this as well because it sums up exactly how I feel as well. Well done Tasnam! It seems some of us have gone through the grieving process quicker than others and gotten over our anger quickly while others may be stuck there for quite some time. I hope most fans can get to the acceptance phase before Priest comes to their town. But don't worry, they will come to the US, I'm just not sure if it will be this year or next year.
| | | \~AuntieB~/ wrote: | | 'Taz,
With the exception of having tickets, my sentiments exactly!
I hope the fans who believe the band might have been obligated to inform ticket holders sooner so they could alter their plans or return for refund/re-sell their tickets, give it some time. It is my opinion, telling the truth about this situation is about as difficult as finding Atlantis - lol I don't really want to know. I'll leave that nonsense to speculative reporters / journalists. If the band did not show up for a gig I would expect a refund. A new guitarist might mean a quality 'Priest gig after all! But hey. I might not get that even. Other than Mexico, there haven't been dates posted for North America. But I'm spiralling. So I'll leave my remarks at that, for now.
Cheers! It was nice reading your thoughts.
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My thought process went like this:
Phase one:
Denial and disbelief - I can't beleive this is true! No it is just a spat...the will get over it.
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Reisistance - This will rip the band apart, it can't work, this tour will flop and I can't stand to watch it!
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Acceptance - OK well this has happened to them and other bands before, and many have survived (and many have not), but they still are going to tour. I do agree a guitarist is less noticable than a lead singer in a band.
You know Scott Travis came and somehow Painkiller become one of their best releases will new found energy. Why couldn't the sme be true with this new guy?
Phase four:
Commitmment - I will go see them!!! I am going to support my favorite band like I support my favorite team even though they also have team line up changes!!!!!!
Just bought my tickets to Wolverhampton on Friday!!!! I believe a new guitarist will add to the fresh sound to future albums.
I am committed to seeing them this last tour. Who knows after this Glenn and/or Rob could retire and the band could continue. (I do not know if I would support the band then/but maybe I would - don't know)
But one thing I do know, I would feel miserable if I did not go see them this last time, then the end for good!!!
I am committed - tickets in hand. Let's go new guy, make us ALL RE-committed!
KK Thank you for everything!
| | | soccer star wrote: | | It is sad that KK Wont be doing the tour and he will be missed but Priest isn't all about KK Downing..
Priest will be coming to Wolverhampton (UK) In July and i WILL be going!! I do want to see Glen,Rob,Ian and Scott one more time and not even KK leaving will change this.
What i would be interested in knowing is if KK has contributed to the new songs for the new album ?
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Thank you for the comments HRMG & AuntieB!!!
Nice to have some postive feedback in this turbulent time with Priest.
I am flying over to see them 2x...along with some other stuff i have planned...
I picked Wolverhampton for a reason.....Here is what I also believe will happen. (Hope, hope, Hope)
Wolverhampton is basically their back yard....if things settle down a bit by then, maybe KK will be honored with a guest appearance onstage that night.
Let's see if that happens.
Feed back requested:
I am in Section: Right Balcony Row B
It is listed as "potential partial obstruction". The women at Civic Hall claims "if" the staging is not too elaborate they can be some of the best seats in the hall. Otherwise I am screwed and will have to walk to some other place.
So I took a chance.
I like being on Glenn's side and this tour specifically I don't want to be Left stage! (Sorry Richie! I do wish you the best though!)
Anyone have experience at this location and Right hand side Balcony Row B?
Thanks
Tasnam
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Yes I agree Bev, I enjoyed reading this as well because it sums up exactly how I feel as well. Well done Tasnam! It seems some of us have gone through the grieving process quicker than others and gotten over our anger quickly while others may be stuck there for quite some time. I hope most fans can get to the acceptance phase before Priest comes to their town. But don't worry, they will come to the US, I'm just not sure if it will be this year or next year.
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'Taz,
With the exception of having tickets, my sentiments exactly!
I hope the fans who believe the band might have been obligated to inform ticket holders sooner so they could alter their plans or return for refund/re-sell their tickets, give it some time. It is my opinion, telling the truth about this situation is about as difficult as finding Atlantis - lol I don't really want to know. I'll leave that nonsense to speculative reporters / journalists. If the band did not show up for a gig I would expect a refund. A new guitarist might mean a quality 'Priest gig after all! But hey. I might not get that even. Other than Mexico, there haven't been dates posted for North America. But I'm spiralling. So I'll leave my remarks at that, for now.
Cheers! It was nice reading your thoughts.
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My thought process went like this:
Phase one:
Denial and disbelief - I can't beleive this is true! No it is just a spat...the will get over it.
Phase two:
Reisistance - This will rip the band apart, it can't work, this tour will flop and I can't stand to watch it!
Phase three:
Acceptance - OK well this has happened to them and other bands before, and many have survived (and many have not), but they still are going to tour. I do agree a guitarist is less noticable than a lead singer in a band.
You know Scott Travis came and somehow Painkiller become one of their best releases will new found energy. Why couldn't the sme be true with this new guy?
Phase four:
Commitmment - I will go see them!!! I am going to support my favorite band like I support my favorite team even though they also have team line up changes!!!!!!
Just bought my tickets to Wolverhampton on Friday!!!! I believe a new guitarist will add to the fresh sound to future albums.
I am committed to seeing them this last tour. Who knows after this Glenn and/or Rob could retire and the band could continue. (I do not know if I would support the band then/but maybe I would - don't know)
But one thing I do know, I would feel miserable if I did not go see them this last time, then the end for good!!!
I am committed - tickets in hand. Let's go new guy, make us ALL RE-committed!
KK Thank you for everything!
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It is sad that KK Wont be doing the tour and he will be missed but Priest isn't all about KK Downing..
Priest will be coming to Wolverhampton (UK) In July and i WILL be going!! I do want to see Glen,Rob,Ian and Scott one more time and not even KK leaving will change this.
What i would be interested in knowing is if KK has contributed to the new songs for the new album ?
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Yes I agree Bev, I enjoyed reading this as well because it sums up exactly how I feel as well. Well done Tasnam! It seems some of us have gone through the grieving process quicker than others and gotten over our anger quickly while others may be stuck there for quite some time. I hope most fans can get to the acceptance phase before Priest comes to their town. But don't worry, they will come to the US, I'm just not sure if it will be this year or next year.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by \~AuntieB~/ from Monday, April 25, 2011 6:54:42 PM)| | | \~AuntieB~/ wrote: | | 'Taz,
With the exception of having tickets, my sentiments exactly!
I hope the fans who believe the band might have been obligated to inform ticket holders sooner so they could alter their plans or return for refund/re-sell their tickets, give it some time. It is my opinion, telling the truth about this situation is about as difficult as finding Atlantis - lol I don't really want to know. I'll leave that nonsense to speculative reporters / journalists. If the band did not show up for a gig I would expect a refund. A new guitarist might mean a quality 'Priest gig after all! But hey. I might not get that even. Other than Mexico, there haven't been dates posted for North America. But I'm spiralling. So I'll leave my remarks at that, for now.
Cheers! It was nice reading your thoughts.
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My thought process went like this:
Phase one:
Denial and disbelief - I can't beleive this is true! No it is just a spat...the will get over it.
Phase two:
Reisistance - This will rip the band apart, it can't work, this tour will flop and I can't stand to watch it!
Phase three:
Acceptance - OK well this has happened to them and other bands before, and many have survived (and many have not), but they still are going to tour. I do agree a guitarist is less noticable than a lead singer in a band.
You know Scott Travis came and somehow Painkiller become one of their best releases will new found energy. Why couldn't the sme be true with this new guy?
Phase four:
Commitmment - I will go see them!!! I am going to support my favorite band like I support my favorite team even though they also have team line up changes!!!!!!
Just bought my tickets to Wolverhampton on Friday!!!! I believe a new guitarist will add to the fresh sound to future albums.
I am committed to seeing them this last tour. Who knows after this Glenn and/or Rob could retire and the band could continue. (I do not know if I would support the band then/but maybe I would - don't know)
But one thing I do know, I would feel miserable if I did not go see them this last time, then the end for good!!!
I am committed - tickets in hand. Let's go new guy, make us ALL RE-committed!
KK Thank you for everything!
| | | soccer star wrote: | | It is sad that KK Wont be doing the tour and he will be missed but Priest isn't all about KK Downing..
Priest will be coming to Wolverhampton (UK) In July and i WILL be going!! I do want to see Glen,Rob,Ian and Scott one more time and not even KK leaving will change this.
What i would be interested in knowing is if KK has contributed to the new songs for the new album ?
He is an important part of the songwriting team and to lose him would surely be a blow to the band. |
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| [\~AuntieB~/] Monday, April 25, 2011 6:54:42 PM | |
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'Taz,
With the exception of having tickets, my sentiments exactly!
I hope the fans who believe the band might have been obligated to inform ticket holders sooner so they could alter their plans or return for refund/re-sell their tickets, give it some time. It is my opinion, telling the truth about this situation is about as difficult as finding Atlantis - lol I don't really want to know. I'll leave that nonsense to speculative reporters / journalists. If the band did not show up for a gig I would expect a refund. A new guitarist might mean a quality 'Priest gig after all! But hey. I might not get that even. Other than Mexico, there haven't been dates posted for North America. But I'm spiralling. So I'll leave my remarks at that, for now.
Cheers! It was nice reading your thoughts.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:21:21 PM)| | | tasnam1 wrote: | |
My thought process went like this:
Phase one:
Denial and disbelief - I can't beleive this is true! No it is just a spat...the will get over it.
Phase two:
Reisistance - This will rip the band apart, it can't work, this tour will flop and I can't stand to watch it!
Phase three:
Acceptance - OK well this has happened to them and other bands before, and many have survived (and many have not), but they still are going to tour. I do agree a guitarist is less noticable than a lead singer in a band.
You know Scott Travis came and somehow Painkiller become one of their best releases will new found energy. Why couldn't the sme be true with this new guy?
Phase four:
Commitmment - I will go see them!!! I am going to support my favorite band like I support my favorite team even though they also have team line up changes!!!!!!
Just bought my tickets to Wolverhampton on Friday!!!! I believe a new guitarist will add to the fresh sound to future albums.
I am committed to seeing them this last tour. Who knows after this Glenn and/or Rob could retire and the band could continue. (I do not know if I would support the band then/but maybe I would - don't know)
But one thing I do know, I would feel miserable if I did not go see them this last time, then the end for good!!!
I am committed - tickets in hand. Let's go new guy, make us ALL RE-committed!
KK Thank you for everything!
| | | soccer star wrote: | | It is sad that KK Wont be doing the tour and he will be missed but Priest isn't all about KK Downing..
Priest will be coming to Wolverhampton (UK) In July and i WILL be going!! I do want to see Glen,Rob,Ian and Scott one more time and not even KK leaving will change this.
What i would be interested in knowing is if KK has contributed to the new songs for the new album ?
He is an important part of the songwriting team and to lose him would surely be a blow to the band. |
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| [metalmaz] Monday, April 25, 2011 9:25:17 AM | |
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What a terrible terrible shame. This is the guy who founded the band. Strong rumour has it that it was finance related. Rob has allegedly insisted that he took 50 % of the band's income since his return (ego.....) and this caused huge fractions within the group.
I am very very skeptical about it being a health matter. Or if it is, ill helath has been caused by the strife. It must be very very very bitter departure and KK would not take such drastic action lightly. . |
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| [tasnam1] Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:21:21 PM | |
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My thought process went like this:
Phase one:
Denial and disbelief - I can't beleive this is true! No it is just a spat...the will get over it.
Phase two:
Reisistance - This will rip the band apart, it can't work, this tour will flop and I can't stand to watch it!
Phase three:
Acceptance - OK well this has happened to them and other bands before, and many have survived (and many have not), but they still are going to tour. I do agree a guitarist is less noticable than a lead singer in a band.
You know Scott Travis came and somehow Painkiller become one of their best releases will new found energy. Why couldn't the sme be true with this new guy?
Phase four:
Commitmment - I will go see them!!! I am going to support my favorite band like I support my favorite team even though they also have team line up changes!!!!!!
Just bought my tickets to Wolverhampton on Friday!!!! I believe a new guitarist will add to the fresh sound to future albums.
I am committed to seeing them this last tour. Who knows after this Glenn and/or Rob could retire and the band could continue. (I do not know if I would support the band then/but maybe I would - don't know)
But one thing I do know, I would feel miserable if I did not go see them this last time, then the end for good!!!
I am committed - tickets in hand. Let's go new guy, make us ALL RE-committed!
KK Thank you for everything!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soccer star from Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:08:17 AM)| | | soccer star wrote: | | It is sad that KK Wont be doing the tour and he will be missed but Priest isn't all about KK Downing..
Priest will be coming to Wolverhampton (UK) In July and i WILL be going!! I do want to see Glen,Rob,Ian and Scott one more time and not even KK leaving will change this.
What i would be interested in knowing is if KK has contributed to the new songs for the new album ?
He is an important part of the songwriting team and to lose him would surely be a blow to the band. |
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| [\~AuntieB~/] Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:46:17 PM | |
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Vail!!! (headbangin' smiley here) D'oh! I can put one here if I want too - lol  Not that it means anything (winking smiley here). Rockin' posts in the "Blah"  Love it! |
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| [Kirby *curb*] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:31:25 PM | |
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| It suck i wont see him :( |
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| [Budred] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:36:45 PM | |
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Man, don't say that until you've seen them.
Those kind of comments sometimes have weird ways of backfiring.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ScurpiPriest from Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:54:31 PM)| | | ScurpiPriest wrote: | | | i'm just happy I saw him live before he left. I'm just happy I'm going to see Judas Priest again before they're all dead! |
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| [ScurpiPriest] Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:54:31 PM | |
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| i'm just happy I saw him live before he left. I'm just happy I'm going to see Judas Priest again before they're all dead! |
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| [GuitarGirl013] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:27:34 PM | |
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Sad to see KK go. He was a great guitarist but he has served his time. Stiil if Judas Priest come to Tulsa, Ok I'm going.
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| [Rik_] Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:08:39 AM | |
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Agree with soccer stars sentiments. I'll be at Newcastle regardless. Although you identify with all the members of a band that has been around as long as this one, and it's sad to see anyone leave, this isn't going to affect the sound enough to justify NOT going to see them as much as it did when Rob halford left in my opinion. A lead singer with a distinctive voice is hard to replace and are usually the first way you recognise a band when you hear them and watch them, with a few notable exceptions like Angus in AC~DC and the like.
For example, I remember having a Halford CD playing in the car and the person I was travelling with , unfamiliar with Halfords solo stuff wanted to know which Priest album the song was off as he'd never heard it before. He didn't say, (without being able to see them) that's not Tipton/Downing/Hill , He just assumed it was Priest when the singing started.
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| [\~AuntieB~/] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:44:58 AM | |
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HRMG, I'm with UDO, regarding your post in the main discussion thread regarding KK's retirement. I certainly hope those who have made plans to follow the tour do not change their plans. Someone got me a set of various cocktail glasses and some margarita making ingredients - LOL And of course - to Ken, if you're out there watching ; ) - IF the tour happens to come to the States, and you happen to be at a show near us, drinks are on me this time! Cheers AxeGod 
And now, AuntB must be off to do the laundry : )
Happy Easter!
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| [soccer star] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:08:17 AM | |
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It is sad that KK Wont be doing the tour and he will be missed but Priest isn't all about KK Downing..
Priest will be coming to Wolverhampton (UK) In July and i WILL be going!! I do want to see Glen,Rob,Ian and Scott one more time and not even KK leaving will change this.
What i would be interested in knowing is if KK has contributed to the new songs for the new album ?
He is an important part of the songwriting team and to lose him would surely be a blow to the band. |
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