Well now Defenders is a great album it is exactly what it was supposed to be, Screaming for Vengeance part 2. The only two albums that sound remotely like each othre in the entire Priest catalogue. The first half of Defenders is a fast album i reckon. Now then as for AOR - what an album, every song a hit it is a modern day Screaming for Vengeance and i loe that, everything about the album rocks, the drumming some of Travis's best, just behind Jugulator and believe it or not because i'm a drummer it is the thing i look forward to most from a new Priest album (needless to say this is what let Nostradamus down a lot). Halfords vocals, Angel provides his best singing voice by far and Demonizer his best screams. Guitar - some of the best solos ever by KK and Glenn especially Demonizer and Hellrider. How many solos have you heard as melodic and as well written as those in a seriously heavy metal song? The bass work from Ian is solid and in places very creative, he shines on Revolution and even Worth Fighting For (as simple as it is) hits home real hard. Loch Ness might not be to everyones liking but i think the band as a whole shine on that song and it is a true cheesy epic metal masterpiece.
The production of the album is what did it most for me though, everything was as sharp as a razor, if music could cut your skin then AOR would take your head off in an instant.
Here is what i want.. no what i demand from the boys,
Travis, take us back to albums like Painkiller and Jugulator, fantastic hand-feet coordinated fills, give us more drum intros like Painkiller and Machine Man, more double bass rolls and bursts like Phallic Tractor and Scarified.
Ian, take us back to Sad wings and Sin after Sin, and combine those beautiful melodies with raw and agressive fills from Jugulator and Demolition.
Glenn, melodic solos aplenty like Demonizer and Beyond the Realms of Death and aggresive duos with KK.
KK, experimental solos such as Sinner and Victim of Changes. Plus agressive duos with Glenn.
As for riffs make them hard and heavy with pure raw energy, Demonizer, Devils Child, Heavy Duty you know the ones i mean
Rob, well i have to say, he always delivers the goods no matter what and i don't need to ask anything of him as he knows what people want.
WE WANT A SURGING RUSH OF POWER, WE WANT TO FEEL OUR FACES RIPPED OFF WITH SHEER FORCE AND ANGER, WE WANT HEAVY METAL, WE WANT THE PRIEST!!!!!!! PRIEST, PRIEST, PRIEST, PRIEST, PRIEST, PRIEST!
WHO'S WITH ME????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:25:07 AM)| |  | Head banger wrote: | | I think Defenders is heavy in a different way. its not as fast by and large, and the drums are less intense, its more guitar focused with the bass backing, rather than the drums being more fore front on AOR. I think these are my 2 fave studio albums, but they are quite different. to me both have more range than painkiller, which is good but kinda one dimensional.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Yeah I see.But we all have opinions,and I just can't hear anything on Defenders that is heavier than Demonizer and Hellrider and Judas Rising,even Wheels Of Fire. The "drums" blow away Defenders as Defenders drums sound like a soft drum machine to me,and even though I love the songs,to me they just don't seem as heavy to me as the core of Retribution,but I see your point man.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | hey COOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEERRRRRRRR no offence man i know how you really like the album but actually i find defenders has more power then angel i also like the feeling much more that defenders has.yeah hell bent for leather is not the most powerfull but it is a great album i enjoy it very much and again i like the feeling of that album.angel has a totally different feel to it to me
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think Angel Of Retribution has enough power. To be honest hellrider,I think Defenders Of The Faith is "softer" than Angel Of Retribution.Its not a bad thing,its my opinion.But if Angel Of Retribution lacks power in your opinion,Defenders Of The Faith must really lack power and so must Hell Bent For Leather no? I read an article that Angel of Retribution was supposed to purposely "not achieve" a Painkiller sound and production. They wanted to achieve a Screaming For Vengeance /Defenders Of The Faith sound and production and thats exactly what Angel of Retribution is to me its an album that belongs with the class of Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith. Out of the 3 albums I like Screaming For Vengeance the best but I like Angel Of Retribtion better than I like Defenders Of The Faith,I have ever since Retribution came out,I understand your cravings for "power" like the Painkiller,but I thought that they achieved what they were trying to do with it,10 songs and the only one that sucked was the last one(Lochness)lol!!!
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | .no offence intended but personally i think the majority of angel of retribution lacks power.just my opinion again no offence intended.mighty paaaaaaainkillllllllller defenders would be very interesting (Quoting Message by guardian angel from Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:03:14 AM)
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I can't speak for everyone on the forum, but ultimately, I like the variety in their discography. I do like Nostradamus, but I agree that this would be the time, if ever, for them to put out a serious british metal offering. I would love to see something along the lines of Defenders of the Faith mixed with Angel of Retribution. And I don't think the other 4 members of Priest would appreciate being lumped in with the Winter Songs thing. That was a Halford deal, something Rob wanted to cross off his bucket list. I just think that doing the British Steel revival tour right after releasing a new album, was bad timing. I think a short Nostradamus tour to promote their new material and a summer British Steel tour would have made more sense, but hey, I'm not in the music industry, what do I know. I just hope to hear something awesome before they hang up their axes.
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| Yeah Hellrider what we are seeing here is our favorite band has been getting soft on us all the way around. 5 long years have passed since Angel of Retribution and all that there is to show for is Nostradamus and Winter Songs. Who knows what kind of mood the band members are in at the time they write the next album? Getting a killer british metal album from these guys is not a "shoe in" at all as we all know,the next LP may turn out like Ram It Down for all we know.But this is what 95% of members on this forum like isn't it? The all like the fact that they never know what they will get from Judas Priest...could be a Painkiller,could be a Turbo,could be a British Steel,could be a cross between Nostradamus and Winter Songs...thats what almost everybody likes here is the fact that they can't count on one particular style. "I FUCKING HATE THAT FACT". I am in the 5% that just want METAL.
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