Yes I will adress that, i've read some of his vauger answers to simular questions and have a good couple of questions that will pin him down. I'm also asking him about the possiblity of an autobiography or something simular.

For the second time guys, I didn't say the album was weak. I said it had some weak tracks. Angel, Worth Fighting For and Lochness. To me those songs are lamo. Just an opinion. To me they let the rest of the album down. Have to agree with you about the "songs" on Nos as well JD, especially that fuckin song where he starts singing in Italian. Crap. Next year marks the 20th anniversary of the release of Priests last classic album.

		J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
		JT wrote:AOR is not a weak album and i won't say that's opinion i would say that is fact ,If it (Angel Of Retribution) had been released after Defenders, everyone would have been like, WOAH AWESOME! But because it follows Painkiller, it can't possibly live up to old Priest standards even though Painkiller is considered better than anything in their entire catalogue by many.  I absolutely agree with you and this post 100% JT,100%.  People may not like A.O.R. but is is far from "weak". And "weak" can be traslated as "soft" sometimes and like I said to me,what my ears hear is that Defenders Of The Faith although I LOVE the album I find it "softer" than Angel Of Retribution. The Drums alone on Defenders I think are much more softer than Scotts on Retribution.And not only that,but I feel that there is more "power" on Retribution because on Defenders yes we have Freewheel Burning but again the drums on that album make these tracks much softer,but on Retribution the power and dynamics on Judas Rising and especially Demonizer and Hellrider...those 3 tracks are tons heavier than Freewheel Burning and Heavy Duty to my ears,even Wheels Of Fire and Deal With The Devil seem to have more punch than Jawbreaker and The Sentinel even though I love those songs.  But thats just all one persons opinion(mine) as I don't expect everyone to like Angel Of Retribution,but to say it is "weak" is absolutely ridiculous because if it is "weak" then what does that make Defenders? Or for that matter,what does that make British Steel,Hell Bent For Leather,Stained Class,Sin After Sin and Sad Wings Of Destiny? Are they all "weak" because they don't have a "Painkiller" sound? And to tell you the truth,I really don't believe the band are capable at this age to create another album as strong as "Painkiller". They are 60 years old,not 40 and times do change.If the band decides to make another traditional heavy metal album I think we will get an album that is in the realm of material like Angel Of Retribution,Defenders Of The Faith and Screaming For Vengeance,I really do.I think an album as strong as Painkiller is out of reach at this point,so we should be happy if they deliver us something traditional. Jimmy James wrote:The reason people are disappointed with Nostradamus, I think, is because of the stupid subject matter.  Absolutely "untrue" jimmy. I "liked" the subject matter and I think the Nostradamus concept subject and matter was brilliant,its the fucking "songs" I hate!!!! So I strongly disagree with you on that for shizzle!!!! LOL! :    (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Friday, November 27, 2009 7:07:28 AM)   JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:   AOR is not a weak album and i won't say that's opinion i would say that is fact. If it's not what you were expecting and for that reason you don't like it then fair enough i can accept that but it's not weak at all. If it had been released after Defenders, everyone would have been like, WOAH AWESOME! But because it follows Painkiller, it can't possibly live up to old Priest standards even though Painkiller is considered better than anything in their entire catalogue by many. Don't you see, Priest can't really churn out what they used to do beacause in todays market unfortunately, it wouldn't survive. Metal has reached new heights and as a result the bands have suffered, they will still receive a massive reception live but that's because people respect them for the hits that they had back in the day. When bands like Sabbath, Priest, Motorhead, Saxon AC/DC, Deep Purple etc release an album now, they aren't going to get the same reaction that they got back in their high days of glory, it doesn't work like that. Plus Priest did try to go back to classic heavy such as Defenders with Ram it Down and as much as i think it worked, many were very disapointed and that's because the world had moved on and wasn't wanting it anymore. Painkiller was so successful because it showed a classic band that could be as heavy and aggressive as any thrash or metal band of the time. AOR is a hybrid album resulting from fans demanding classic Priest and Heavy Priest. That's exactly what Priest gave but that just leaves the fans that want something different, enter Nostradamus. They covered everyone within those 2 albums and yet there are still disapointed fans. AOR is a modern metal masterpiece and i would say it is easily one of their best. Painkiller beats it on heavyness, but AOR beats Painkiller musically by far. When Priest write songs with layers, it works. When they right songs that are just heavy, it works but i know which one i prefer, even for a heavy metal band. That is why i love AOR and i would happily accept another album of the same standard if not better from them. Edited at: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:04:03 PM

JT wrote:AOR is not a weak album and i won't say that's opinion i would say that is fact ,If it (Angel Of Retribution) had been released after Defenders, everyone would have been like, WOAH AWESOME! But because it follows Painkiller, it can't possibly live up to old Priest standards even though Painkiller is considered better than anything in their entire catalogue by many. 

I absolutely agree with you and this post 100% JT,100%.  People may not like A.O.R. but is is far from "weak". And "weak" can be traslated as "soft" sometimes and like I said to me,what my ears hear is that Defenders Of The Faith although I LOVE the album I find it "softer" than Angel Of Retribution. The Drums alone on Defenders I think are much more softer than Scotts on Retribution.And not only that,but I feel that there is more "power" on Retribution because on Defenders yes we have Freewheel Burning but again the drums on that album make these tracks much softer,but on Retribution the power and dynamics on Judas Rising and especially Demonizer and Hellrider...those 3 tracks are tons heavier than Freewheel Burning and Heavy Duty to my ears,even Wheels Of Fire and Deal With The Devil seem to have more punch than Jawbreaker and The Sentinel even though I love those songs. 

But thats just all one persons opinion(mine) as I don't expect everyone to like Angel Of Retribution,but to say it is "weak" is absolutely ridiculous because if it is "weak" then what does that make Defenders? Or for that matter,what does that make British Steel,Hell Bent For Leather,Stained Class,Sin After Sin and Sad Wings Of Destiny? Are they all "weak" because they don't have a "Painkiller" sound? And to tell you the truth,I really don't believe the band are capable at this age to create another album as strong as "Painkiller". They are 60 years old,not 40 and times do change.If the band decides to make another traditional heavy metal album I think we will get an album that is in the realm of material like Angel Of Retribution,Defenders Of The Faith and Screaming For Vengeance,I really do.I think an album as strong as Painkiller is out of reach at this point,so we should be happy if they deliver us something traditional.

Jimmy James wrote:The reason people are disappointed with Nostradamus, I think, is because of the stupid subject matter. 

Absolutely "untrue" jimmy. I "liked" the subject matter and I think the Nostradamus concept subject and matter was brilliant,its the fucking "songs" I hate!!!! So I strongly disagree with you on that for shizzle!!!! LOL!

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   (Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Friday, November 27, 2009 7:07:28 AM)

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		AOR is not a weak album and i won't say that's opinion i would say that is fact. If it's not what you were expecting and for that reason you don't like it then fair enough i can accept that but it's not weak at all. If it had been released after Defenders, everyone would have been like, WOAH AWESOME! But because it follows Painkiller, it can't possibly live up to old Priest standards even though Painkiller is considered better than anything in their entire catalogue by many. Don't you see, Priest can't really churn out what they used to do beacause in todays market unfortunately, it wouldn't survive. Metal has reached new heights and as a result the bands have suffered, they will still receive a massive reception live but that's because people respect them for the hits that they had back in the day. When bands like Sabbath, Priest, Motorhead, Saxon AC/DC, Deep Purple etc release an album now, they aren't going to get the same reaction that they got back in their high days of glory, it doesn't work like that. Plus Priest did try to go back to classic heavy such as Defenders with Ram it Down and as much as i think it worked, many were very disapointed and that's because the world had moved on and wasn't wanting it anymore. Painkiller was so successful because it showed a classic band that could be as heavy and aggressive as any thrash or metal band of the time. AOR is a hybrid album resulting from fans demanding classic Priest and Heavy Priest. That's exactly what Priest gave but that just leaves the fans that want something different, enter Nostradamus. They covered everyone within those 2 albums and yet there are still disapointed fans. AOR is a modern metal masterpiece and i would say it is easily one of their best. Painkiller beats it on heavyness, but AOR beats Painkiller musically by far. When Priest write songs with layers, it works. When they right songs that are just heavy, it works but i know which one i prefer, even for a heavy metal band. That is why i love AOR and i would happily accept another album of the same standard if not better from them.

Yeah I see.But we all have opinions,and I just can't hear anything on Defenders that is heavier than Demonizer and Hellrider and Judas Rising,even Wheels Of Fire. The "drums" blow away Defenders as Defenders drums sound like a soft drum machine to me,and even though I love the songs,to me they just don't seem as heavy to me as the core of Retribution,but I see your point man.

		hellrider 31038 wrote:
		hey COOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEERRRRRRRR no offence  man i know how you really like the album but actually i find defenders has more power then angel i also like the feeling much more that defenders has.yeah hell bent for leather is not the most powerfull but it is a great album i enjoy it very much and  again i like the feeling of that album.angel has a totally different feel to it to me      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: I think Angel Of Retribution has enough power. To be honest hellrider,I think  Defenders Of The Faith is "softer" than Angel Of Retribution.Its not a bad thing,its my opinion.But if Angel Of Retribution lacks power in your opinion,Defenders Of The Faith must really lack power and so must  Hell Bent For Leather no? I read an article that Angel of Retribution was supposed to purposely "not achieve" a Painkiller sound and production. They wanted to achieve a Screaming For Vengeance /Defenders Of The Faith sound and production and thats exactly what Angel of Retribution is to me its an album that belongs with the class of Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith. Out of the 3 albums I like Screaming For Vengeance the best but I like Angel Of Retribtion better than I like Defenders Of The Faith,I have ever since Retribution came out,I understand your cravings for "power" like the Painkiller,but I thought that they achieved what they were trying to do with it,10 songs and the only one that sucked was the last one(Lochness)lol!!!      hellrider 31038 wrote:  .no offence intended but personally i think the majority of angel of retribution lacks power.just my opinion again no offence intended.mighty paaaaaaainkillllllllller defenders would be very interesting    (Quoting Message by guardian angel from Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:03:14 AM)   guardian angel wrote:   I can't speak for everyone on the forum, but ultimately, I like the variety in their discography.  I do like Nostradamus, but I agree that this would be the time, if ever, for them to put out a serious british metal offering.  I would love to see something along the lines of Defenders of the Faith mixed with Angel of Retribution.  And I don't think the other 4 members of Priest would appreciate being lumped in with the Winter Songs thing.  That was a Halford deal, something Rob wanted to cross off his bucket list.  I just think that doing the British Steel revival tour right after releasing a new album, was bad timing.  I think a short Nostradamus tour to promote their new material and a summer British Steel tour would have made more sense, but hey, I'm not in the music industry, what do I know.   I just hope to hear something awesome before they hang up their axes.      J.D. DIAMOND wrote:   Yeah Hellrider what we are seeing here is our favorite band has been getting soft on us all the way around. 5 long years have passed since Angel of Retribution and all that there is to show for is Nostradamus and Winter Songs. Who knows what kind of mood the band members are in at the time they write the next album? Getting a killer british metal album from these guys is not a "shoe in" at all as we all know,the next LP may turn out like Ram It Down for all we know.But this is what 95% of members on this forum like isn't it?  The all like the fact that they never know what they will get from Judas Priest...could be a Painkiller,could be a Turbo,could be a British Steel,could be a cross between Nostradamus and Winter Songs...thats what almost everybody likes here is the fact that they can't count on one particular style.  "I FUCKING HATE THAT FACT". I am in the 5% that just want METAL.      hellrider 31038 wrote:   i wonder if he plans on recording another straight throu metal album with his band or just another hoilday cd like we heard he was planning on doing a few weeks ago.WE WILL ALL HAVE TO DEMAND  MORE RUSH OF POWER HEAVY MEEETTT   TTTAAALLL FROM THE MIGHTY METAL GOD.yeah lets hope the PRIEST ARE REALLY HUNGRY FOR A VERY ANGRY ALBUM .i know i  am infact i am starving to death and i am sure you are to..lol    (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Monday, November 23, 2009 5:03:00 AM)   J.D. DIAMOND wrote:   Exactly Hellrider. But really,the album is EXACTLY what Rob wanted to do as you already know of course.Along with you,I also wish Rob would of released a traditional heavy metal album all the way through with the Halford band,but he chose to do this for this year. This just goes to show that when the christmas season is over and the new year hits....its a count down to see what the band will do next.And hopefully Rob and Priest are hungry for an angry album of Judas Priest styled hellrider styled HEAVY METALLL!! lol! Right?      hellrider 31038 wrote:   this album reminds me very much of nostradamus in my opinion a few of the songs have a very nostradamus feeling . TO BAD THERE NOT ALL LIKE GET INTO THE SPIRIT RUSH OF POWER METAL MASTERPIECE WITH AWESOME RASPY VOLCALS.HELL YEAH Edited at: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:56:42 PM Edited at: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:58:56 PM Edited at: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:03:07 PM

I can't speak for everyone on the forum, but ultimately, I like the variety in their discography.  I do like Nostradamus, but I agree that this would be the time, if ever, for them to put out a serious british metal offering.  I would love to see something along the lines of Defenders of the Faith mixed with Angel of Retribution.  And I don't think the other 4 members of Priest would appreciate being lumped in with the Winter Songs thing.  That was a Halford deal, something Rob wanted to cross off his bucket list.  I just think that doing the British Steel revival tour right after releasing a new album, was bad timing.  I think a short Nostradamus tour to promote their new material and a summer British Steel tour would have made more sense, but hey, I'm not in the music industry, what do I know.   I just hope to hear something awesome before they hang up their axes.

		J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
		Yeah Hellrider what we are seeing here is our favorite band has been getting soft on us all the way around. 5 long years have passed since Angel of Retribution and all that there is to show for is Nostradamus and Winter Songs. Who knows what kind of mood the band members are in at the time they write the next album? Getting a killer british metal album from these guys is not a "shoe in" at all as we all know,the next LP may turn out like Ram It Down for all we know.But this is what 95% of members on this forum like isn't it?  The all like the fact that they never know what they will get from Judas Priest...could be a Painkiller,could be a Turbo,could be a British Steel,could be a cross between Nostradamus and Winter Songs...thats what almost everybody likes here is the fact that they can't count on one particular style.  "I FUCKING HATE THAT FACT". I am in the 5% that just want METAL.      hellrider 31038 wrote:   i wonder if he plans on recording another straight throu metal album with his band or just another hoilday cd like we heard he was planning on doing a few weeks ago.WE WILL ALL HAVE TO DEMAND  MORE RUSH OF POWER HEAVY MEEETTT   TTTAAALLL FROM THE MIGHTY METAL GOD.yeah lets hope the PRIEST ARE REALLY HUNGRY FOR A VERY ANGRY ALBUM .i know i  am infact i am starving to death and i am sure you are to..lol    (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Monday, November 23, 2009 5:03:00 AM)   J.D. DIAMOND wrote:   Exactly Hellrider. But really,the album is EXACTLY what Rob wanted to do as you already know of course.Along with you,I also wish Rob would of released a traditional heavy metal album all the way through with the Halford band,but he chose to do this for this year. This just goes to show that when the christmas season is over and the new year hits....its a count down to see what the band will do next.And hopefully Rob and Priest are hungry for an angry album of Judas Priest styled hellrider styled HEAVY METALLL!! lol! Right?      hellrider 31038 wrote:   this album reminds me very much of nostradamus in my opinion a few of the songs have a very nostradamus feeling . TO BAD THERE NOT ALL LIKE GET INTO THE SPIRIT RUSH OF POWER METAL MASTERPIECE WITH AWESOME RASPY VOLCALS.HELL YEAH Edited at: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:56:42 PM Edited at: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:58:56 PM